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A85387 Cata-baptism: or new baptism, waxing old, and ready to vanish away. In two parts. The former containes LVIII. considerations, (with their respective proofs, and consectaries) pregnant for the healing of the common scruples touching the subject of baptism, and manner of baptizing. The latter, contains an answer to a discours against infant-baptism, published not long since by W.A. under the title of, Some baptismall abuses brielfy discovered, &c. In both, sundry things, not formerly insisted on, are discovered and discussed. / By J.G. a minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1655 (1655) Wing G1155; Thomason E849_1; ESTC R207377 373,602 521

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11_o 12_o 13_o 14._o yea_o solomon_n say_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o wicked_a be_v a_o abomination_n unto_o the_o lord._n pro._n 15._o 8._o 21._o 27._o these_o place_n with_o many_o more_o of_o a_o like_a import_n that_o may_v ready_o be_v add_v unto_o they_o do_v with_o a_o surplusage_n of_o evidence_n prove_v that_o much_o benefit_n do_v not_o accrue_v to_o the_o doer_n of_o the_o thing_n specify_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o the_o deed_n do_v and_o yet_o of_o the_o two_o there_o be_v much_o more_o reason_n why_o benefit_n shall_v accrue_v unto_o the_o doer_n of_o such_o thing_n of_o the_o law_n as_o these_o upon_o the_o work_n do_v then_o upon_o their_o be_v circumcise_a for_o 4._o whereas_o he_o say_v that_o much_o of_o the_o benefit_n of_o circumcision_n do_v accrue_v to_o the_o circumcise_a upon_o the_o work_n do_v if_o he_o speak_v of_o those_o that_o be_v circumcise_v according_a to_o the_o stand_a law_n viz._n on_o the_o eight_o day_n who_o be_v far_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o jewish_a nation_n the_o work_n itself_o of_o circumcision_n be_v not_o do_v by_o they_o but_o by_o other_o to_o they_o unknown_a whereas_o the_o offering_n of_o incense_n and_o of_o sacrifice_n the_o observation_n of_o the_o new_a moon_n sabbath_n and_o other_o feast_n appoint_v by_o the_o law_n be_v work_n do_v by_o person_n themselves_o now_o questionless_a if_o there_o be_v any_o benefit_n accrue_v unto_o man_n upon_o the_o work_n do_v it_o be_v more_o like_a to_o accrue_v in_o this_o kind_n upon_o work_n do_v by_o person_n themselves_o then_o upon_o work_n do_v total_o by_o other_o and_o without_o their_o knowledge_n desire_n or_o consent_n nor_o do_v nor_o can_v mr._n a._n give_v we_o any_o substantial_a account_n either_o from_o the_o scripture_n or_o otherwise_o why_o the_o benefit_n of_o baptism_n shall_v be_v more_o suspend_v upon_o the_o knowledge_n faith_n etc._n etc._n of_o he_o who_o be_v baptize_v than_o the_o benefit_n of_o circumcision_n be_v suspend_v upon_o the_o like_a qualification_n of_o the_o circumcise_a for_o sect._n 128._o 5._o the_o text_n of_o scripture_n which_o he_o cite_v prove_v no_o such_o difference_n as_o this_o between_o the_o two_o ordinance_n circumcision_n and_o baptism_n nor_o do_v they_o either_o divisim_fw-la or_o con●unctim_n prove_v or_o so_o much_o as_o colour_v with_o a_o proof_n that_o much_o of_o the_o benefit_n of_o circumcision_n do_v accrue_v to_o the_o circumcise_a upon_o the_o work_n do_v for_o what_o though_o the_o apostle_n say_v and_o this_o by_o way_n of_o contradistinction_n from_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o gospel_n or_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n the_o man_n that_o do_v those_o thing_n shall_v live_v by_o they_o yet_o be_v it_o no_o part_n of_o his_o meaning_n to_o imply_v or_o teach_v that_o by_o the_o literal_a performance_n of_o the_o legal_a ceremony_n man_n either_o be_v or_o may_v have_v be_v save_v the_o law_n of_o which_o the_o apostle_n speak_v be_v not_o the_o law_n of_o ceremony_n which_o mr._n a._n understand_v but_o the_o whole_a system_fw-la or_o body_n of_o precept_n and_o commandment_n deliver_v by_o moses_n nor_o be_v the_o apostle_n do_v those_o thing_n the_o same_o with_o mr._n a_n do_v they_o the_o apostle_n must_v needs_o be_v conceive_v to_o speak_v of_o such_o a_o do_v of_o the_o thing_n of_o the_o law_n which_o include_v as_o well_o the_o spirituality_n or_o perfection_n of_o the_o law_n and_o of_o the_o several_a precept_n thereof_o at_o least_o in_o will_n desire_n and_o endeavour_v as_o the_o bare_a letter_n or_o externalitie_n of_o it_o for_o god_n never_o make_v any_o such_o covenant_n with_o or_o promise_v unto_o any_o man_n that_o by_o do_v external_o only_o he_o shall_v be_v either_o justify_v or_o save_v which_o mr._n a'_v do_v evident_o suppose_v nor_o do_v his_o second_o scripture_n stand_v any_o whit_n close_o to_o his_o cause_n than_o the_o first_o for_o when_o the_o apostle_n say_v gal._n 3._o 12._o the_o law_n be_v not_o of_o faith_n but_o the_o man_n that_o do_v they_o shall_v live_v in_o they_o his_o meaning_n be_v not_o that_o the_o law_n require_v not_o as_o well_o the_o conformity_n and_o subjection_n of_o the_o inward_a man_n unto_o it_o as_o viz._n in_o love_n faith_n holiness_n humility_n etc._n etc._n as_o of_o the_o outward_a consist_v of_o a_o mere_a bodily_a observation_n of_o so_o much_o of_o it_o as_o may_v thus_o be_v observe_v but_o that_o the_o voice_n purport_n or_o tenor_n of_o the_o law_n do_v exact_a of_o all_o those_o who_o expect_v justification_n by_o it_o yea_o in_o a_o sense_n of_o all_o man_n simple_o a_o universal_a and_o constant_a obedience_n and_o subjection_n unto_o it_o in_o the_o whole_a compass_n and_o extent_n of_o it_o according_a to_o what_o he_o have_v more_o plain_o say_v a_o verse_n or_o two_o before_o curse_v be_v every_o one_o that_o continu_v not_o in_o all_o thing_n which_o be_v write_v in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o law_n to_o do_v they_o in_o which_o respect_n it_o be_v say_v not_o to_o be_v of_o faith_n i._n not_o to_o promise_v justification_n unto_o any_o act_n of_o faith_n or_o believe_v in_o another_o whereas_o the_o tenor_n of_o the_o gospel_n although_o it_o simple_o require_v as_o perfect_a and_o through_o a_o obedience_n unto_o all_o the_o precept_n of_o it_o as_o the_o law_n do_v to_o all_o the_o precept_n thereof_o yet_o it_o exact_v not_o this_o obedience_n upon_o the_o same_o inexorable_a term_n nor_o do_v it_o threaten_v every_o person_n no_o nor_o any_o person_n with_o a_o curse_n who_o shall_v not_o con●nue_v in_o all_o thing_n which_o be_v write_v therein_o to_o d●_n they_o in_o case_n they_o shall_v true_o and_o unfeigned_o believe_v in_o jesus_n christ_n so_o that_o these_o two_o scripture_n right_o understand_v know_v nothing_o either_o of_o reason_n or_o truth_n in_o mr._n a_n cause_n sect._n 129._o his_o other_o scripture_n levy_v upon_o the_o same_o account_n p._n 27._o 28._o do_v scarce_o so_o much_o as_o face_v the_o design_n which_o they_o be_v bring_v into_o the_o field_n to_o advance_v for_o what_o though_o the_o ministration_n of_o the_o law_n be_v call_v the_o ministration_n of_o the_o letter_n and_o the_o ordinance_n thereof_o carnal_a ordinance_n and_o such_o as_o do_v no●_n make_v perfect_a as_o pertain_v to_o the_o conscience_n or_o again_o that_o the_o apostle_n to_o show_v wherein_o the_o gospel_n or_o new_a covenant_n exceed_v the_o law_n or_o old_a one_o say_v that_o according_a to_o this_o god_n put_v his_o law_n in_o the_o mind_n of_o man_n and_o write_v they_o in_o their_o heart_n heb._n 8._o 10_o or_o again_o that_o the_o true_a worshipper_n shall_v worship_v the_o father_n in_o spirit_n and_o in_o truth_n what_o be_v there_o i_o say_v in_o all_o or_o in_o any_o of_o these_o or_o in_o twenty_o more_o of_o a_o like_a import_n to_o prove_v that_o much_o of_o the_o benefit_n of_o circumcision_n do_v accrue_v to_o the_o circumcise_a upon_o the_o work_n do_v or_o that_o the_o benefit_n of_o baptism_n be_v any_o whit_n more_o suspend_v upon_o the_o knowledge_n faith_n etc._n etc._n of_o he_o who_o be_v baptize_v than_o the_o benefit_n of_o circumcision_n be_v &_o c_o all_o that_o can_v be_v infer_v from_o these_o and_o such_o like_a passage_n be_v only_o these_o and_o such_o like_a notion_n that_o god_n be_v more_o communicative_a of_o the_o clear_a knowledge_n of_o himself_o and_o of_o the_o mystery_n of_o his_o will_n concern_v the_o salvation_n of_o the_o world_n by_o jesus_n christ_n under_o the_o gospel_n than_o he_o be_v under_o the_o law_n that_o the_o anoint_v of_o the_o generality_n of_o the_o saint_n with_o the_o spirit_n under_o this_o dispensation_n the_o law_n be_v nothing_o so_o rich_a or_o full_a as_o it_o now_o be_v under_o the_o gospel_n that_o the_o institute_v worship_n especial_o the_o public_a worship_n and_o service_n of_o god_n under_o the_o law_n consist_v in_o a_o far_o great_a number_n and_o variety_n of_o external_a rite_n and_o observation_n than_o now_o under_o the_o gospel_n that_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o people_n yea_o of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n themselves_o be_v general_o nothing_o so_o raise_v or_o enlarge_v to_o the_o obedience_n of_o god_n under_o the_o law_n as_o they_o be_v and_o especial_o will_v be_v when_o the_o time_n come_v under_o the_o gospel_n etc._n etc._n but_o none_o of_o these_o thing_n prove_v so_o much_o as_o inshew_v that_o according_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o legal_a ministration_n child_n void_a of_o understanding_n and_o faith_n be_v any_o whit_n more_o capable_a of_o holy_a thing_n or_o of_o the_o end●_n and_o benefit_n of_o they_o in_o part_n upon_o a_o literal_a administration_n or_o reception_n of_o they_o than_o child_n now_o be_v under_o the_o gospel_n for_o my_o better_a
the_o rudiment_n of_o the_o world_n in_o such_o a_o sense_n as_o this_o viz._n because_o they_o be_v manage_v and_o order_v by_o such_o principle_n of_o wisdom_n as_o those_o by_o which_o the_o mosaical_a ceremony_n be_v order_v by_o god_n which_o yet_o must_v be_v m._n a_n sense_n to_o make_v his_o citation_n of_o the_o word_n any_o way_n pertinent_a to_o his_o purpose_n but_o if_o we_o must_v needs_o for_o mr._n a_n sake_n though_o contrary_a to_o reason_n interpret_v the_o rudiment_n of_o the_o world_n the_o ceremony_n of_o moses_n that_o character_n of_o evil_a or_o of_o danger_n upon_o thing_n which_o the_o apostle_n place_v in_o this_o that_o they_o be_v after_o the_o rudiment_n of_o the_o world_n must_v be_v conceive_v to_o stand_v in_o this_o that_o they_o be_v of_o like_a nature_n and_o consideration_n in_o appearance_n with_o the_o old_a ceremony_n of_o the_o law_n viz._n external_a and_o carnal_a rite_n and_o observation_n have_v no_o communion_n with_o the_o spiritualnes_n or_o inwardnes_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o have_v chief_o to_o do_v with_o the_o heart_n &_o soul_n &_o conscience_n of_o man_n and_o injoyn_v such_o way_n and_o action_n and_o exercising_n of_o themselves_o unto_o man_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o arise_v and_o proceed_v from_o a_o heart_n sanctify_v through_o faith_n and_o fill_v with_o the_o love_n of_o god_n now_o baptism_n to_o whosoever_o administer_v can_v in_o any_o such_o sense_n as_o this_o be_v say_v to_o be_v after_o the_o rudiment_n of_o the_o world_n or_o the_o legal_a ceremony_n because_o it_o be_v a_o evangelicall_n ordinance_n and_o command_v by_o christ_n himself_o or_o if_o it_o be_v after_o these_o it_o be_v as_o well_o and_o as_o much_o after_o they_o when_o administer_v unto_o man_n and_o woman_n as_o when_o unto_o child_n inasmuch_o as_o the_o nature_n of_o it_o be_v not_o alter_v or_o change_v by_o be_v administer_v unto_o man_n so_o that_o mr._n a._n be_v extreme_o out_o of_o his_o way_n to_o think_v that_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n unto_o infant_n be_v any_o way_n touch_v or_o concern_v in_o that_o clause_n of_o the_o apostle_n wherein_o he_o censure_v thing_n as_o dangerous_a and_o of_o threaten_a consequence_n for_o be_v after_o the_o rudiment_n of_o the_o world_n and_o not_o after_o christ_n sect._n 141._o although_o it_o nothing_o concern_v the_o cause_n in_o hand_n to_o follow_v he_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o that_o objection_n which_o he_o fall_v upon_o though_o very_o unreasonable_o and_o irrelative_o to_o the_o business_n before_o we_o and_o lead_v unto_o it_o by_o the_o false_a light_n of_o his_o understanding_n the_o clause_n late_o mention_v after_o the_o rudiment_n of_o the_o world_n p._n 32._o yet_o to_o afford_v he_o a_o opportunity_n to_o reflect_v upon_o his_o importunity_n in_o oppose_a infant-baptism_n let_v we_o endeavour_v to_o show_v he_o the_o 32_o mr._n a._n p._n 32_o weakness_n of_o his_o answer_n thereunto_o the_o objection_n as_o himself_o propound_v it_o p._n 32._o be_v this_o that_o both_o our_o saviour_n and_o his_o apostle_n vindicate_v and_o assert_v practice_n under_o the_o gospel_n from_o the_o example_n and_o practice_n under_o the_o law_n as_o the_o disciple_n gather_v ear_n of_o corn_n on_o the_o sabbath_n from_o david_n eat_v the_o show_n bread_n etc._n etc._n mat._n 12._o 3_o 4_o 5._o the_o minister_a in_o carnal_a thing_n to_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n from_o the_o not_o muzle_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o ox_n that_o tread_v out_o the_o corn_n under_o the_o law_n 1_o cor._n 9_o 9_o 10._o to_o this_o objection_n he_o answer_v 1._o that_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v that_o man_n of_o private_a spirit_n want_v that_o infallible_a guidance_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n have_v may_v use_v like_o liberty_n in_o this_o behalf_n but_o for_o answer_n to_o this_o answer_n 1._o be_v not_o see_v man_n competent_a guide_n unto_o those_o that_o be_v blind_a and_o if_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a or_o safe_a for_o we_o to_o follow_v or_o imitate_v christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n in_o any_o thing_n they_o do_v because_o we_o want_v the_o infallible_a guidance_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o they_o have_v what_o christian_n or_o worthy_a way_n almost_o be_v leave_v for_o we_o to_o walk_v in_o 2._o whereas_o he_o seem_v to_o distinguish_v between_o the_o guidance_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o to_o make_v some_o infallible_a and_o other_o fallible_a i_o can_v at_o no_o hand_n subscribe_v his_o distinction_n i_o can_v believe_v any_o guidance_n whatsoever_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v fallible_a i●_n such_o which_o may_v mislead_v or_o deceive_v those_o that_o be_v guide_v by_o it_o only_o if_o by_o a_o infallible_a guidance_n he_o mean_v such_o a_o guidance_n which_o they_o who_o be_v partaker_n of_o it_o know_v certain_o to_o be_v such_o i_o mean_v infallible_a and_o by_o a_o fallible_a guidance_n such_o that_o they_o who_o be_v guide_v by_o it_o may_v possible_o doubt_v whether_o it_o be_v his_o guidance_n and_o so_o infallible_a or_o no_o and_o in_o this_o respect_n may_v deceive_v they_o his_o distinction_n i_o suppose_v may_v pass_v but_o than_o ●_o of_o what_o guidance_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n can_v we_o be_v more_o confident_a that_o it_o be_v he_o and_o consequent_o infallible_a then_o when_o we_o be_v lead_v by_o he_o to_o such_o ground_n and_o principle_n of_o argue_v upon_o which_o he_o teach_v those_o to_o argue_v and_o conclude_v in_o who_o his_o guidance_n be_v infallible_a and_o know_v to_o be_v such_o by_o these_o person_n themselves_o and_o acknowledge_v for_o such_o by_o we_o also_o sect._n 142._o and_o whereas_o mr._n a._n endeavour_n to_o strengthen_v his_o answer_n thus_o nay_o have_v not_o the_o presumption_n thus_o to_o do_v be_v the_o sluice_n through_o which_o many_o popish_a superstition_n have_v first_o enter_v into_o the_o world_n as_o suppose_v they_o to_o hold_v a_o analogical_a and_o equitable_a proportion_n 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