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A52471 To all people that speakes of an outvvard baptisme; dippers, sprinklers, and others Also the errors answered, holden forth by Thomas Larkham, called by the world a minister, at VVe[x]ford he was then with a reproofe to the offenders; and also some queries to all people to be read within that yee may all know that, that which may bee knowne of God is manifest within; Rom: 1: 19... From a friend to all that breath after jesus; known to the world by the name Humphry Norton; though amongst the scorners called a Qvaker. Norton, Humphrey, fl. 1655-1659. 1659 (1659) Wing N1312A; ESTC R222710 13,342 16

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he also Preached through the Cities and converted many to the one Lord and to the one Faith and the one Baptisme Eph. 4. 5. 6. And told them if you be Dead with Christ from the Rudiments c. Why as though living in the world are you subject unto Ordinances touch not tast not handle not they all perish with the useing Coll. 2. 14. 20. 21. 22. And are only used amongst these who are in the perishing Nature who are Enemies to the Cross of our Lord Jesus Christ and comes not to see your selves and your sins your Rudiments Nayled to the Cross And therein is power to lay down your lives and take them up again and to see the Scriptures fulfiled in you as Paul did who was crucified to the world Heb. 9. 9. 10. And the world to him his life was taken up from the earth and noe more he but Christ lived in him and was become an high Priest of a more perfect tabernacle and a mediator of a better Covenant then that which stands in Meats and Drinks and divers Washings and carnall Ordinances imposed upon them untill the time of Reformation Now these that stands in the divers washings they are not come to the light which brings to Reformation and from amongst the divers washers wch are in the world where they lie in sin wickedness one sprinkling an Infant others diping young people others goes in and some are thrown in and here are the divers washers which washeth the out-side which stands in Meats and Drinks and carnall Ordinances which cannot make the cōmers thereunto perfect as pertaining to the conscience Therfore I say unto you all to the light turn your mindes which leads up to the Life to the measure and stature and fulness of Christ to a perfect man in Christ Jesus Eph. 4. 12. 13. by him to know your hearts consciences washed and purged and sprinkled from all evill by his eternall spirit and to see the Law of Commandements contained in Ordinances abolished in his flesh Eph. 2. 15. and you drawing nigh unto him through the vaile that is to say his flesh he that readeth let him understand and an end put to all tipes and figures and shaddowes beleeving in the Light obeying and following the Light the Day breaks forth and the shaddows flees away And so comes to have fellowship with the Saints in the Light and truely our fellowship is with the Father with the Son whilst you are all standing as shaddows who are from the Light in the way to the long home David speaks off who was guided by the Light called him in spirit Lord Math 22. 43. 44. Therfore all minde the Light Christ Jesus that you may come to witness him in spirit to be your Lord your bodies his Temple And him Reigning and Ruleing therein and not still to feed your fancies in teling of a personall Reign but examin your selves with the Light wherewith you are inlightned at this present and see who Reigns for if sin Reign then Satan rules if Christ Reign then is the Devill chained and cast out and all his Armor wherin he trusted Eph. 6. 11. And the whole Armor of Righteousness put on That which Noah was a Preacher off and was before Abraham which David in Spirit called Lord which in fulnes of time was made manifest and said that I and my Father is one and God is a Spirit And is the same Yesterday this day and for ever 2. Cor 5. 16. Heb. 13. 8 We are witnesses of it in our measure as Paul was who said though we have known Christ after the flesh yet henceforth know we noe man after the flesh but are Epistles writen in one anothers hearts with the spirit of the Living God by which spirit all the Sons of God were guided and he that hath not this spirit is none of his Rom. 8. 14. he is not sealed Therfore to you all this is the word of the Lord God Come forth of all your out-side formes you are not sealled And come to the inward worship in spirit and in truth Iohn 4. 25 Therewith to be Sealed and Girt about yee that once had a true tenderness come and renew your first love that of God in your Consciences is my witness you stand in slippery places outward water being one of your foundamentalls as you call it And the Light the Rock to you is an offence which is coming in power great Glory to crush all your dead formes and out-side worships filthy hipocrisie that you live in the terrors of God will surprize all you blind Leaders who by faigned words and fair speeches deceives the hearts of the simple and keeps them from their teacher Christ Jesus Therefore all you tender hearted ones turne away from them which have the forme and not the power 2. Timo. 3. 5. And you that have gon under the water for Conscience sake such we condemn not but that you still live in sin that is condemned with the Light in all your Consciences unto which you doe well if you take heed 1. Pet. 1. 19. Untill you be lead to the fear of the Lord God that not an unsaviry word proseed out of your Mouths and to take up the Cross dayly Luke 9. 23. to all Covetousness Pride and Ambition which abounds amongst you who are called Baptists Therefore minde the Light that by it you may come to witness the Redemption of your Soules which all the world cannot purchase you awakned out of wickedness all selfe seeking that you may no longer seeke selfe but the Lord God that your Souls may live whether you will hear or for-bear that of God in your Consciences is my witness that in word and writing we have not spared to declare unto you the whole counsell of God Without respect of Persons Now unto all you that are tender and would hear but dare not least they should cast you out of their Church as they call it I say unto such minde the Lord our God and try all things and hold fast that which is Good Thes 5. 15. 21. And then wilt thou not need to be afraid of them For the Church is in God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ 1. Thes 11. And these that are alive in their Sins are cast out of the Church already Therefore return unto the Light which shews unto you your Sins and puts you in minde of a day of accompt and will let you see that the longer you live in it the greater will your accompt be and the sader your condemnation Therefore beleeve in the Light and it will lead you out of Sin And bring you to the Church in which is noe Sin and into the I 〈◊〉 to know the Doctrine of his Son to yea and nay in all your cōmunications And not to swear at all neither by Heaven nor by the Earth nor by any other Oath Math. 5. 34. 37. And to doe unto all men as you
TO ALL PEOPLE THAT SPEAKES OF AN OVTVVARD BAPTISME DIPPERS SPRINKLERS AND OTHERS Also the Errors answered holden forth by THOMAS LARKHAM Called by the World a Minister at VVexford he was then With a reproofe to the Offenders And also some Que●ries to all people to be read within that yee may all know that That which may bee knowne of God is manifest within Rom 1 19. WE are the Circumcision which worship God in the Spirit rejoyce in Christ Jesus and have no confidence in the flesh Phillipians 3 3. For he is not a Jew which is one outwardly neither is that Circumcision which is outward in the flesh but he is a Jew which is one inwardly and Circumcision is that of the heart in the Spirit and not in the Letter whose praise is not of men but of God Rom 2 28 29. FRom a friend to all that breath after JESUS known to the world by the Name Humphry Norton Though amongst the Scorners called a QVAKER WE are the Circumcision which worship God in the Spirit and rejoyce in Christ Jesus and have noe confidence in the flesh Phillipians 3 3. For he is not a Jew which is one outwardly neither is that Circumcision which is outward in the flesh but he is a Jew which is one inwardly Circūcision is that of the heart in the Spirit not in the letter whose praise is not of men but of God Rom. 2 28 29. To all you every where that goes under the Name of Baptists Dippers Sprinklers and others to the Light in all your consciences I speake let it answer which shews you that you are washing your selves remember the Scribes and Pharisees who were compared to the Cup and Platter washing the out-side but inwardly were Ravening Woolues you wash your selves one washing another And you all dishonour Christ and will neither come to him your selves nor suffer others and except he wash you yee have noe part in him Therfore I say leave that selfe washing take up the Cross to your selves that selfe may be crucified all selfe selfe Righteousness washed away That the washing and renewing and regenerating of the holy Ghost yee may know and witness as Paul did who laboured to bring people to the same and Peter and Iohn they were Baptized with the Holy Ghost so that the chief Priests and Scribes and Pharisees tooke knowledge of them that they had been with Christ after that he was Sacrifised up And Aquilla and Priscilla who taught Appollos a more perfect way then Iohns Baptisme Acts 4 8 13. and Acts 18 25 26. for that must decrease as saith Iohn I must decrease he must increase Iohn 3 30. all that stands in water Baptisme you are not come to the increase which hath noe end nor to the more perfect way to wit Christ Jesus who saith I am the way Iohn 14 6. which Aquilla Priscilla taught Appollas although he were an Elequent man And Paul knew a more perfect Baptisme then that with water when he thanked God that he Baptized none of them save Crispus and Gaius c. For he was not sent to Baptize but to Preach 1 Cor. 1 14 15 16 17. And Paul did the worke given him to finish and brought many up to perfection and shewed them a more perfect way then carnall things to wit Christ Iesus the sure foundation into which the Isralits were Baptized eate dranke of the same Rocke 1 Cor 2 6. 1 Cor 10 23 4 5. Come now yee that pleads and Preaches up water Baptisme let us reason together where is the cloud yee were Baptized into is it yet removed where is the Sea you passed through which shall be noe more know yee such a thing where is the Death witnessed and Repentance and Remission of Sin amongst you To that of God in all your Consciences I appeale have not you water Baptized people yet to repent when you are Quiet in spirit is not your Sins brought fresh against you committed before you were Baptized are you not yet living in Sin you are not yet Dead with Christ nor your old man is not yet crucified nor the body of Sin is not destroyed Rom 6 6 7 that henceforth you should not serve it but come to our Baptisme and henceforth you shall not serve Sin for being Dead with Christ we are freed from Sin as saith the Scripture he that is dead is freed from Sin but yee your selves are alive making a fair shew in the flesh and would constraine others to be Baptized that you might Glory in their flesh least you and they should suffer persecution for the Cross of Christ c. Gall 6 from 12 to the end I say this is fleshly Glory the Jew outward and the Circumcision that availeth not being Strangers to the life of God to the Jew inward and the Circumcision of the heart with the Spirit of the living God which is only witnessed through the Cross of Christ And the pure water whereby the Conscience is sprinkl'd from dead workes the answer returned thou art good but while you live in Pride and Covetousness Lusts and uncleanness a pure Conscience you know not nor nothing that pure is the light in your consciences is my witness wch will manifest unto you that outward water nor noe outward thing can take away one sin Therefore take warning yee selfe washers you dishonor God whilst in these things you stand which cannot perfect as pertaining to the conscience Heb 9 9 10 But stand not there for you cannot satisfie that of God in your consciences with an Imitation from the Letter and with telling how Phillip Baptized the Eunuch it were well for you if you could see your selves in the Eunuchs condition that you have the Scriptures and understand not what you read Acts 8 from 30 to the end but from simplicity of heart would confess as he did for in plainnes you understand not the Scriptures nor the powr of God who tells of being Baptized and are yet alive in your sins And hath to repent after you are Baptized for which in Scripture you have neither presept nor example but Phillip shewed the Eunuch from that Scripture an example Christ how he was lead like a Lamb and his life was taken up from the Earth c See if it be so with you that you are taken up with him from the Earth and all earthly things for untill you come to know Christ to Guide you and Lead you to be Baptized you have not learned the Doctrin of Baptisme Heb 6 2. for all men come unto him Iohn 3. 6. Then will you see that which lead the Eunuch to be Baptized And that also which caught Phillip away from Baptizing was carryed forth to preach through the Cities The same spirit caught Paul from Baptizing And made him thanke God that he Baptized none of them save Crispus and Gaius c. For he was not sent to Baptize but to Preach and