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A80765 The disputes between Mr. Cranford, and Dr. Chamberlen. At the house of Mr. William Webb, at the end of Bartholomew Lane, by the Old Exchange: on March 1. 1652, and April 1. 6. 13. / Published for the satisfaction of all that love the truth. Cranford, James, d. 1657.; Chamberlen, Peter, 1601-1683. 1652 (1652) Wing C6822; Thomason E666_6; ESTC R206920 19,015 40

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