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A30534 A message proclaimed. By divine authority from the chosen assembly of the redeemed people in England, to the Pope (chief bishop) of Rome, and to his cardinals, Jesuits, and priests, and all other the officers of the Romish Church, where it shall meet with them through the world: that they may appear, and come forth to triall, and shew if they have the same faith, power, spirit, and authoritie, and government, as had the Apostles and true churches, before the apostacie: and this is a full invitation and challenge to the whole Church of Rome, and the beginning of controversie with her, for the perfect manifestation of the long hidden truth; betwixt them that are in the truth it self, and such as have the form, but not the power; that all things may be brought to light and true judgement. Written by an embassador for the true and living God, E.B. Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1658 (1658) Wing B6013A; ESTC R203576 16,877 25

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by many And now because the Lord hath put it into our hearts to have controversie with you and to seek out perfectly your original and to justifie you or condemn you accordingly and having the certain infallible Spirit of the Lord God to try all things we are purposed in the Lord to visit you and to examine to the foundation your rise and first beginning from whence you come by descent and what you truly are in your present estate and whether you be indeed the true Church and have the true Spirit or whether you are otherwise that all the world may be satisfied and more perfectly know the full truth concerning the Church of Rome and your seed and root we will examine and your birth and original we will search out and your faith and worship and whole Religion we will lay to the line of true judgement to justifie you or condemn you eternally for the Saints shall judge the world and your garments shall be stripped off and your secrets discovered and your whole body and members made fully manifest that the very truth of all things may appear and be imbraced and the whoredomes of all the earth may be laid open that the Just and the Innocent that hath long laid groaning in great captivity may be delivered from under all bonds of oppressions whoredoms and iniquities and this will the eternal God by us speedily bring to passse amongst you Wherefore thou Pope greatly admired and highly exalted and to all thy Cardinals Friers Jesuits and Priests and all other Officers under thee I am moved of the Lord God of heaven and earth who is the only Holiness and highest of all by this Message to visit you requiring you and charging you in the Name and Authoritie of the Dreadful and Mightie God before whom all men and Nations are as nothing in comparison but may be turned at his pleasure dashed to pieces by his mightie hand and unto whom all the sons of Adam in all the world must render an account as you will answer it to him in his dreadful day of judgement vengeance and as you love and will obey your God and Christ whom you professe and serve and as you would honour your God and bring people to your way and worship and religion upon these ingagements and by the authoritie of the Almightie I lay it upon you to answer and to return your knowledge and opinions to the particulars following which I am moved to querie and demand of you that your doctrines practises and worships and whole religion in every part thereof may be veiwed and examined and measured according to the Saints and Apostles writings and may thereby be cleared or otherwise reproved and condemned And if your profession and practises in religion be sprung from the true grounds and true Spirit and your Church be indeed the true Church that can prove her pedigree truly descended from the Church of Christ before the Apostacie and clear her felf from all degeneration in every degree and that she is perfect in the faith and worship and practises of the holy Church and Apostles of old then shall all that love God and fear him and hopes for life eternal separate themselves from all Sects and Apostates separated from you and come in and return again to you as to a faithful Mother and joyn with you in all things and adde themselves to your church only and renounce and denie all the contrarie that is not of you and so shall your names and honour be increased through all the earth But and if after lawful trial and just examination and searching out the matter it be proved against you that our are degenerated from what the true Church and Apostles were and are not builded upon Christ the true Rock and foundation but diverted from the Power Life and Spirit and true Religion which the Apostles were in and that your church is not the true church but a false Sect and your original cannot be fetch'd from the Apostles but is of a latter and more corrupted race then shall you denie all your religion and church and renounce your profession and practises and come to them and joyn with them that can prove their church to be the true Church and can fetch their original from the Spirit of the Apostles and that is builded upon Christ the everlasting foundation whoever this shall be proved to be wherefore appear and come forth to trial upon this condition joyn issue with us and answer these things in plainnesse and let us know your Judgements that a return you may receive First Whether you are indeed the only true Church of Christ his body of his flesh and of his bones called and gathered and united by the eternal Spirit of Jesus perfect in the Faith of Christ perfect in Doctrine and perfect in Worship as were the Churches of Christ in the daies of the Apostles and whether the eternal Spirit dwell in every particular member of your church and do lead each one of you into all truth insomuch that you need now no man to teach any one of you but as that same spirit that dwels in you answer me plainly yea or nay 2. Whether are you not in any particular of your faith doctrines practises and worships in any degree degenerated nor deviated from what the faith doctrine practise worship were that the true Church were in in the daies of the Apostles and whether will you admit of trial in all things you profess and practise by the Scriptures the writings of the Saints yea or nay 3. Whether your church of Rome do receive the pouring down of the Spirit upon sons and daughters immediately and every member receive the holy Ghost and is filled therewith and baptized therewith as in the true church Acts 2. and whether you have received the holy Ghost and everlasting Comforter immediately as did the true church in the daies of the Apostles Answer me these things in the truth of your hearts that you may be owned or denied 4. Whether the faith you profess have perfectly purified your hearts from all sin and hath given you victorie over the world that now the body of sin is put off and you are free from sin and doth not commit sin but are every member of you without spot and wrinkle and cleansed from all unrighteousness being the servants of righteousness and not of sin and whether you believe this condition to be attainable in this life upon earth and to be injoyed and waited for yea or nay 5. What is your ground of sprinkling Infants with water and whether he that first instituted it had the gift of the eternal Spirit and was led thereby for we know it was first ordained at Rome in your church and all the Protestants received it from you who are not able to give us a sufficient reason thereof but we are not satisfied therein therefore tell us whether are people thereby made members
thereof and answer us doth natural learning make a Minister of Christ or was the Apostles made Ministers thereby and can a man learn the Ministrie naturally as he learns a trade and is the preaching of the Gospel a trade or is it not the gift of God and can it be bought and sold and what is eternal life and how is it received and hath any that hope but them whose hearts are purified and must not everie ones heart be purified before they see God who is pure and how comes man to be a Reprobate and how comes man to be a Son of God again and what is the way and meanes of life eternal is it carnal and visible things and Ordinances is it the doing and performing of something by the creature or by the revelation of something in the creature and must not Christ be revealed in every particular and is not that the true bread of life and is there any other bread that is eternal but Christ which the mortal eye cannot see and we are very doubtful that bread and wine after consecration is not the very bodie and bloud of Christ and except you can prove to us by plain Scripture and give us sound reasons to demonstrate things we must judge you and shew your folly to the whole world and why do you pray for the dead is that available shall not they receive according to their works that they have done give us example that ever the Apostles did so or else we will say you are blind and in the dark and tell us plainly what error is and what schism is and what is the eye that the god of the world hath blinded and what is the eye that sees God is it mortal or eternal Answer us these things in plainnesse that we may know how to return in controversie with you for the Lord God is risen that will break in pieces and confound all the world And come friends give us your answer are you of Abrahams seed that was the friend of God that had not a foot of ground but forsook his place and kindred are you of that birth that hath no father upon earth and are you heirs of Gods promise and have you made your calling and election sure and is the seed come out of Egypts bonds and is all Egypts bonds broken yet and what is the bondage of Egypt and was not transgression the reason of it and what is Pharaoh out of what root did he spring and whose seed is he and is not the hard heart of Pharaoh killers and murderers are not such of Pharaoh and tell us plainly are you redeemed from Pharaoh or you are such as oppresseth the seed as Pharaoh did and tell us who was the inventer of all your Images and who was the former of all your graven Images are not they all invented and come up since the Apostles daies which ye have set up and what is Purgatorie and from what had it its rise and original and what ground have you out of Scripture for such a doctrine and what is the rule of faith and what is faith and what doth it give victorie over and what doth it overcome and what is the vail that hath been spread over all Nations and what is the Mountain of the house of God and what are those mountains the wicked shall seek to cover themselves under and what are those mountains that people expect salvation from in vain and did not Iohn come to throw down the mountains and what are the mountains that he came to throw down and what is the valley he came to raise up answer us and what is the sword of the Spirit and whether have ye the sword of the Spirit and the spiritual Armor and what is your church defended and upheld by spiritual weapons or carnal is not your goals carnal weapons and your inquisitions and your killing people about Religion are not all these carnal weapons and had ever the Church of Christ such weapons answer me plainlie and do you not expect the Lord will suddenlie plead with you and are not ye them that put off the day of the Lord and causeth the seat of violence to come neer and are not ye them that have eyes but see not ears and hear not hearts and understand not and is not your eye blind that should see Gods presence and your ears stopped that should hear his voyce and have you heard his voice and seen his shape if you have what is he like answer us and what is his Word and where doth it dwell in your hearts or is it without you and can any thing without you purifie you and take away sin out of your hearts and must not Christ be within and what is the fruits and signs and marks of a Saint and why do you go pilgrims to visit dead bones what is the reason of it and who was the first that instituted it and what is the meaning of your holy water give us Scripture for all these practises or else the power of the Lord will tear you to pieces and lay open your foundation and none that love God can joyn unto you and can any of you pardon sin trulie that it shall never more be remembred and is not your sins remembred with the light in your consciences some time and is there not a light in your consciences that doth convince you tell me plainlie and whether do you own that Christ hath lightened everie one that comes into the world and what is the light and do you know Christ as he was before Abraham and have you seen his day as Abraham did and what is the day of Christ doth the carnal eye see it give us your knowledge and your judgement in all these things and lay down your principles at full and prove by the Scriptures what you hold and profess if you would have any to turn to your Religion otherwise renounce your church and come out of Babylon what is Babylon and the Mother of Harlots and what is spiritual Egypt and Sodom where Christ is crucified and what is the Whore and what is her flesh that hath stained the earth and what is the fire that must consume her flesh manie are jealous concerning you that you are not the true Church but that you have drunken of the Whores cup who hath made all Nations drunk and if that time be come that she have made all Nations drunk then how can you clear your selves being nations and multitudes of people To all these things I expect your speedie answer and what is the death that hath raigned over all and how is man recovered out of it and when and what is the gates of hell and what is the Rock that they cannot prevail against and whether your church may never be prevailed against and whether it be not your inquisitions stakes and faggots and killing people that doth principally defend your church and if you should cease your inquisitions and killing