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A84892 VIII. problems propounded to the Cavaliers: for conviction of their consciences; with a discovery of certain plots and conspiracies. Declared by Captain Francis Freeman. With an answer thereunto returned by Colonell Francis Windham. And a reply to the said answer. These are printed by the originall papers, and published according to order of Parliament. Freeman, Francis.; Windham, Francis.; England and Wales. Parliament. 1646 (1646) Wing F2128; Thomason E343_6; ESTC R200943 20,583 25

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which shall be by way of exhortation and admonition let me now exhort and entreat you in the fear of the Lord to repentance and humiliation humble your self before the Lord in dust and ashes come out from among those cursed Crue of Infidels whose tongues speakes nothing but blasphemy so long as thou continue there with them thou cannot but participate of their filthy abominations and transgression for if you do but conive and wink at other mens sins you are as guilty of the same sinne without reproof as if you your selves had personally committed it therefore if you will avoid sin and escape the danger therof then you must shun the occasion of it and consequently shake off such wicked company David said depart from me ye wicked I will keep the Commandements of my God intimating thereby that he could not set himselfe to the performance of any holy duty as hee ought so long as such wicked company were about him yea it hath been a grief to the godly to have bin in the company of ungodly persons as Let living in Sodome when he saw their filth and abominations it vexed his righteous soule and this was it that made David bemone himself and his estate and condition when he was constrained to live among the uncircumcised people Woe is me that I remain in Mesech and to dwell in the Tents of Kedar my soule hath long dwelt among those that be enemies to Peace Now you see how careful these god●y men were to shun and avoid the lewd oompany of the wicked and if you will imitate them in goodnesse you must carefully labour to live in the practice of holinesse and avoid the company of such Idolatrous Papists and Atheists as are amongst you Sir I have wrote to you somwhat largely and the truth of it is far more largely then I intended but yet I hope it will not be labour in vain but that it may please God to make me an Istrument of your conversion if you will but carefully diligently seriously read over this poor weak piece and weigh every particuler according to its severall weight and conscionably practice it in your li●e and conversation walking in newnesse of life and obedience to the Gospel of Christ with earnest and fervent prayers to the Almighty God of heaven to create a new heart and renew a right spirit within you and if we humble our selves and turn from our wicked wayes then the Lord will be mercifull to us and will heal our Land 2 Chron 7.14 and if otherwise that we do not humble our selves it will prove to be misery upon miseries and we shal● heap up wrath against the day of wrath and so the Lord of his mercy direct your heart and divert his Judgments from Us and give us patience to undergo these afflictions and then the Lord in his due time will accomplish his own ends and send us a happy and blessed peace by a blessed Reformation Now I would intreat you in the name of the Lord and for your own soules healths sake that you will take this my counsell and admonitions to shake of your wicked company or if it be possible to reduce them to the obedience of the Parliament but if there be any thing herein expressed whereof you make any scruple or doubt of the truth of it I shall bee ready to give you more full and ample satisfaction if you please to appoint the time and place God willing I will give you a meeting or any Cavalier whatsoever there to use liberty of Conscience and freedom of Spirit to dispute the point without any manner of wrong or violence each to other and that there may be nothing but reality intended betwixt us let there be sufficient engagements to each and I shall for ever remain SIR Yours to command FRANCIS FREEMAN For Mr. Francis Freeman in Dunster these Three in Print Sir I Have perused your Manuscript and would willingly have thoroughly weighed as you drsire your as you well call them poor weeak endevours but truly they prov'd weightlesse and however you please to stile them more powerfull then ordinary even converting me from my selfe sometimes to Democritus then to Heraclitus and from him again to the former making me smile pity and again laugh at your ignorance impudency and folly even in one and the same minute I had thought to have concealed your shame in part and not have hazarded the becoming equally ridiculous with you in going about to blaze what your selfe have more then sufficiently already done I would willingly have kept silence and not answered a word but finding by late speeches over the walls that you take occasion thereby to think wickedly that I am even such a one as your self and that your frivolons what shall I call them are unanswerable and also hearkning to the wise mans advice who wills to answere a fool sometimes according to his folly lest he be over wise in his own conceit I have forc'd my selfe now though unwillingly to return answer unto some of your particulars to all were endlesse but beleeve me where to begin what first to say or what order to observe in answering so disorderly a peece I well know not so great is your confusion so immethodicall your proceeding that I should bewray a great deal of indiscretion should I endevour to tract you but jacta est alea we must on some way or other At all adventure then wee 'l undertake your first you call it a Probleme you are well read in Aristotle it seems learn'd you nothing else thence but this specious appellation Surely this needed no Oedipus the meerest Davus in our Castle had been able enough to have shap'd you a ready answer thereunto however thanks to your charity it seemes you will help if not prevent us therein for you answer in our names a Gentleman and a Souldier and we must take these two termes forsooth on your bankrupt credit for convertible and so naturally or rather supernaturally joyn'd together that it were impiety to sever them as though all Souldiers were Gentlemen and all Gentlemen Souldiers risum teneatis amici A quaint device to Gentilize your Pedlar Dishmaker and the like and to make the young Squire a Martialist But Lord how this fine military youth must be qualified what precise rules he must follow he must and he must he must not and he must again any thing I warrant you but fight for his King but whence learnt you this out of Alian the young Artillery man or your new Edenburgian trow Fie on 't are you not ashamed to dally thus and confound things so foolishly together speaking of a meere Souldier simply considered as such must we presently conceive him metamorphosed become a spiritual one Was Hector Alexander Caesar or any of the Othoman race ever so and yet they were Gentlemen they were Souldiers if we may confide in their Heraldry were they acquainted with did they observe these rules But why