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An answer to the eight quæries propounded by the House of Commons, to the assembly called divines, sitting at Westminster, April. 22. 1646 never to this day by them answered, nor they called to an accompt by the Parliament, for their ignorance or negligence therein.
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Barber, Edward, d. 1674?
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derision then shall he speak to them in his wrath and vex them in his sore displeasure yet have I set my King upon my holy hill of Zion all which their doing was but a vane thing in Davids Accompt vers the first and vers 10.11.12 he exhorts them saying be wise now therefore on ye Kings be instructed ye Judges of the earth serve the Lord with feare and rejoyce with trembling kisse the Son least he be angry ye perish from the way if his wrath be kindled yea but a little blessed are they that put their trust in him compared with Prov. 16.20 Isa 30.18 Jer. 17.7 27 7. Rom. 9.33 and 10.11 1 Pet. 2.6 For saith the Lord Isa 60.12 The Nation and Kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish yea those Nations shall be utterly wasted on that England would consider this in time least one day it be said to it as was once said by Christ to Jerusalem Luke 13.34 and 19 41. where coming nigh to the City he beheld it and wept over it saying if thou hadst known even thou at least in this thy day the things that belong to thy peace but now they are hid from thy eyes So the Lord for many years having called upon this Kingdom of England for repentance and turning unto him by amendment sollowing us with mercies and deliverances fatherly chastizing us by pestilence sword and famine but what amendment is there of any since but that in justice pride cruelty neglect of the poore Idolatry covetousnes abounds as the proph saith Is 56.11 every one for ku gaine from his quarter that love of mony the roote of all evill remaining as much as ever 1 Tim. 6.10 That therefore we would turn unto him according to promise in keeping the Protestation and Covenant in standing for a reformation according to the word of God and institutions of Christ and not covetous mens desires and inventions who in all ages have been obstructers of the true worship of God persecuters of his servants as King 1 22.22 to 28. Ier. 18.18 Come let us smite him with the tongue Ames 7.10.11 Mic. 1.1 c. 3. Ier. 26.11 to 19. Mat. 23.13 who shut up the Kingdom of Heaven against men they neither go in themselvs neither suffer them that are entring to go in but as Theedoro Beza observes from Act. 6.9 to 15. that fals teachers because they will not be overcome flee from disputations to Magistrates open slandering and false accusations that the first bloudy persecution of the Church of Christ began and sprung from a Councell of Priests by the suggestion of the University Doctors that therefore we might beware of men and according to the command of God heat ken only to the voice of Christ Mat. 17.5 that so we obeying him the great Prophet and Anointed the Lord may be gracious unto us in causing the sword to be sheathed and that he may delight to dwell among us in turning the hearts of the Fathers unto the children and the hearts of the children to the Fathers which shall be the desire and prayer of him that desires the happines here and glory hereafter of you and all that love the Lord Jesus Christ in fincerity Whereas it is Resolved by the House of Commons that all persons guilty of uotorious offences shall be suspended the Sacrament of the Lords Supper the House of Commons desires to be satissied by the Assembly of Divines in these particulars 1. WHether the Parochiall and Congregationall Elderships appointed by Ordinance of Parliament are Jure Divino by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ 2 Whether all the Members of the said Elderships are Members thereof or which of them are Jure Divino by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ 3 Whether the Supreame Assemblies or Elderships viz. the Classicall Provinciall and Nationall whether all or any of them or which of them are Jure Divino and by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ 4. Whether appeales from Congregationall Elderships to the Classicall Provinciall and Nationall Assemblies or to any of them or which of them are Iure Divino and by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ 5. Whether oecumenicall Assemblies are Iure Divino or whether there be appeales from any of the former Assemblies to the said oecumenicall Assemblies Iure Devino by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ 6. Whether by the word of God the power of judging and declaring what are such notorious and scandalous offences as aforesaid and conventing before them trying and actuall suspending from the Sacrament such offenders accordingly either in the Congregationall Elderships or Presbytery or in any other Eldership of Presbytery presented to the House as the advice of the Assembly and whether such powers are in them only or any of them or in which of them Jure Divino and by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ 7. Whether there be any certaine and particular rules expressed in the word of God to direct the said Elderships or Presbyteries or any of them in the exercise and execution of the powers aforesaid and which are those rules 8. Is there any thing contained in the word of God that the Supream Majestracy in a Christian state may not judge and determine what are the aforesaid notorious and seandalous offencet and the manner of suspention from the same And in what particulars concerning the premisses is the said Supreame Majestracy by the word of God excluded In Answer of these particulars the House of Commons desires of the Assembly of Divines their proofs from Scripture and to set down the severall texts in the expresse words of the same Ordered that every particular Minister of the Assembly of Divinâ— that is or shall be present at the debate of any of these questions de upon every resolution which shall be presented to this House concerning the same subscribe his respective name either with the Affirmative or Negative as he giveth his Vote those that do decent from the major Part shall set down their possitive opinions with the expresse Text of Scripture upon which their opinion is grounded For Answer to the first Quaerie the Churches of Christ were constituted and gathered out of the world by the Ministry of the Gospel according to that great Charter thereof Mat. 28.19.20 Mark 16.15.16 Lu. 24.47 And not by any Authority or Ministry of the civill Magistrate and as they were thus gathered planted in the premitive times so are they in like manner by his Servants to be gathered after the Apostacie whom by his power he shall in an extraordinarie manner raise up and by the Servants of the Churches that shall be by them sent forth to preach the everlasting Gospel for the inlightening the earth discovering the Mistery of iniquity and the Ministry of Antichrist gathering his people out of spirituall Babylon as out of Babylon of old and planting them into Church fellowship and order having their Commission
from Christ and his Church and not by Command and Authority from Pope Councel Synod or civill Magistrate the Church of Christ being his spirituall Kingdom consisting of a company of Saints or holy people Rom. 1.7 Cor. 1.1.2 Pet. 1.1.16 called out of the world John 15.19 Rev. 5.9 By the preaching of the Gospel Mat. 28.19.20 Mark 16.15.16 by a free voluntary consent Ps 18.43.44.110.3 Acts 2.41 13.48 17.11 entring into Covenant Psal 50.5 Zep. 2.1 Acts 3.23 to 26. Heb. 8.8.9 to discharge duties to God one to another Iohn 4.24 Phil. 3.3.1 Pet. 2.5 1 Cor. 12 12. to 28. putting on Christ by Baptisme or dipping Gal. 3.26.27 for ye are all the Children of God by faith in Christ Jesus for as many of you as have been dipt into Christ have put on Christ compared with Ephes 4.4.5 There is one body one spirit even as ye are called in one hope of your calling one Lord one faith one dipping one God and Father of all who is above all and through all and in you all This is Christs spirituall house under the new Testament whereof he is Lord as Hab. 2.20 Heb. 3 6. head Eph. 1.22.23 King Isa 33.22 and Law giver James 4 12. and prophet Deut. 18.15 Mat. 17.5 Being that Priest Alter and Sacrifice by which all that believe and obey are for ever sanctified and perfected Heb. 10.14 and 5.8 9. for it is not the voice of the Church much lesse the voice of the Synod or Parliament that we are to hearken unto in spiritnall worship but Christs voice in the Church and that in all things whatsoever he shall say unto us Tim. 1.3.15 he speaking in his Servants as Luke 10.16 he that heareth you heareth me and he that heareth me heareth him that sent mee These where ever gathered together under Heaven in the name of Christ according to his order consisting of Jewes or Gentiles Col. 1.18 have power from him their head to receive in deale with or cast out of the Church by the only Lawes and Statutes of King Jesus heir only King and Law-giver as Isai 9 6. and 33.22 Acts 2.41.42 Mat. 48.15 to 20. and 1 Cor. 5.4.5 and 2.2.4 to 9. They being under Christ their King the freest Independant Corporation or state under Heaven Iohn 8.36 If the Sonne therefore shall make you free ye shall be free indeed Cor. 1.3.5 6 7. compared with Isai 2.17 The Lord alone shall be exalted in that day Now the parochiall Churches or Elderships that are appointed by Statute Lawes or Ordinances of Parl. and thereby forced thereunto cannot be Jure Divino Churches of Christ by his will and appointment but all the people of God are as truly called out of such Assemblies as out of Babylon of old to the free voluntary worship of the Gospell To the second quaerie I answer The Parish Churches or Assemblies being not gathered according to the Commission of Christ in that great Charter of the Gospell and by his Ministers and Servants but by the Authority of the civill Magistrate through the importunity of Austin the Monck sent over from Gregory the 7. from which roote and foundation the nationall Ministry now extant still retaines their Ordination having still kept their first state and constitution although reformed in divers particuler Doctrines whereby they cannot be Jure Divino Churches of Christ by his will and appointment but are constitutions of men through the subtilty of the man of sin or beast rising out of the earth to wit by his earthly inventions who by the slight of men and cunning craftinesse they lye in wait to deceive having 2. horns like a Lamb but speakes like a Dragon exercising all the power of the first beast c. Rev. 13.11 having a shew of wisdom in will worship and humility Col. 2.23 of whom the Apostle bids the Saints beware of being spoiled through their philosophy and vain deceit after the traditions of men after the Rudiments of the world and not after Christ in whom dwells the fulnesse of the God-head bodily and ye the Saints to wit believers dipt are compleat in him c. and Mat. 15.9 Christ saith in vain do they worship me teaching for Doctrines the Commandements of men from whence it appeares as the Churches so the Members also are none of them Jure Divino Members of any Church of Christ by his will and appointment To the 3. I answer for any supream Authority of Assemblies or Elderships viz. the Classicall provinciall or nationall whether they are Jure Divino or no. In all the Gospell I do not find any more jurisdiction of Churches over Churches then there is of brethren over brethren but the contrary is clearly proved Mat. 23.8.9 10. but be not ye called Rabby for one is your Master to wit Christ and all ye are brethren and call no man your Father upon the earth for there is but one your Father which is in Heaven be not called Doctors for one is your Doctor even Christ and Cor. 1.5 4 5. That Church of Corinth had power as to cast out the Incestious person so upon his Repentance to receive him in again without the authority of any other Church or any others contradiction James 2.1 he saith my brethren have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ the Lord of glory with respect of persons and Chap. 3.1 he saith my brethren be not many Masters knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation but this spirit of pride is no new thing for it began in the Disciples Luke 9.46 when there arose a reasoning amongst them which of them should be the greatest but Christ perceiving the thoughts of their hearts answereth them by setting a little Child in the midst of them to teach them humility there being too many now a dayes of their spirit v. 46. 47. 48 as he taught them against persecution vers 54.55 56. when they would have had sire come down from Heaven to consume the Samaritans saying ye know not of what spirit you are for the Sonne of man is not come to destroy mens lives but to save them c. Therefore these supream Assemblies are not Jure Divino by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ but are all by humane Authority not known in Scripture being against the freedom which every Church of Christ hath given them which they ought to injoy none being before or after another in their priviledge or prerogative which liberty and freedom every protestator and Covenanter is sworn to stand for and maintain To the 4. Concerning Appeales from Congregationall Elderships to the Classicall Provinciall and Nationall Assemblies The parishionall not being proved Iure Divino but of humane Authority appeales to them and from one unto another must needs be unlawfull Besides how contrary is this to the primitive practice as Acts 15. when there arose a difference about Circumcision in the Church of Antiochia they sent up to the Church at Ierusalem for