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their_o child_n when_o the_o year_n of_o jubilee_n come_v for_o say_v god_n they_o be_v my_o servant_n he_o and_o his_o child_n etc._n etc._n for_o they_o that_o be_v he_o and_o his_o child_n be_v my_o servant_n if_o child_n may_v be_v call_v moses_n disciple_n and_o god_n servant_n under_o the_o law_n why_o may_v they_o not_o be_v repute_v christ_n disciple_n and_o his_o servant_n under_o the_o gospel_n again_o the_o holy_a action_n of_o parent_n be_v say_v to_o be_v do_v also_o by_o their_o child_n 2_o chron._n 20.4_o jehoshaphat_n proclaim_v a_o fast_n and_o judah_n gather_v themselves_o together_o to_o ask_v or_o pray_v for_o help_v of_o the_o lord_n who_o be_v mean_v by_o judah_n see_v verse_n the_o 13_o and_o all_o judah_n stand_v before_o the_o lord_n with_o their_o little_a one_o their_o wife_n and_o their_o child_n thus_o child_n be_v say_v to_o pray_v with_o their_o father_n again_o deut._n 29.10_o 11._o you_o stand_v this_o day_n all_o of_o you_o before_o the_o lord_n your_o god_n your_o captain_n of_o your_o tribe_n your_o elder_n and_o your_o officer_n with_o all_o the_o man_n of_o israel_n your_o little_a one_o your_o wife_n etc._n etc._n that_o thou_o shall_v enter_v into_o covenant_n with_o the_o lord_n thy_o god_n and_o into_o his_o oath_n etc._n etc._n thus_o child_n be_v say_v to_o fast_a to_o pray_v to_o repent_v to_o enter_v into_o covenant_n viz._n in_o god_n merciful_a acceptation_n their_o parent_n be_v exercise_v in_o those_o duty_n why_o may_v they_o not_o be_v say_v now_o also_o to_o be_v the_o same_o with_o their_o parent_n again_o psal_n 22.9_o david_n say_v thus_o thou_o be_v he_o that_o take_v i_o out_o of_o the_o womb_n thou_o do_v make_v i_o to_o hope_v when_o i_o be_v upon_o my_o mother_n breast_n what_o be_v more_o plain_a in_o scripture_n than_o this_o viz._n in_o god_n gracious_a account_n child_n be_v say_v to_o hope_n and_o depend_v upon_o he_o even_o before_o they_o come_v to_o understand_v the_o doctrine_n of_o hope_n again_o 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be_v that_o when_o moral_a and_o ceremonial_a precept_n come_v to_o competition_n ceremonial_n must_v be_v suspend_v and_o moral_n obey_v his_o six_o consideration_n be_v to_o this_o purpose_n manifest_a and_o indisputable_a command_n of_o god_n must_v take_v place_n and_o he_o obey_v when_o they_o come_v in_o competition_n with_o such_o command_n as_o be_v disputable_a among_o the_o godly_a holy_a and_o learned_a man_n whether_o they_o be_v indeed_o command_v or_o no_o as_o to_o instance_n to_o edify_v comfort_n admonish_v counsel_n watch_v over_o one_o another_o these_o be_v the_o undoubted_a command_n of_o god_n and_o due_a unto_o those_o to_o who_o they_o be_v solemn_o promise_v to_o be_v perform_v except_o there_o be_v a_o release_n by_o consent_n or_o the_o providence_n of_o god_n otherways_o or_o dere_v it_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o make_v they_o good_a unto_o those_o individual_a person_n to_o who_o they_o be_v make_v but_o whether_o god_fw-we commanda_fw-la that_o child_n shall_v be_v baptize_v as_o well_o as_o man_n or_o that_o baptism_n shall_v be_v administer_v this_o way_n or_o another_o these_o thing_n be_v disputable_a and_o dispure_v among_o believer_n what_o say_v you_o now_o be_v there_o no_o difference_n between_o mr._n goodwin_n first_o and_o six_o consideration_n well_o that_o consideration_n be_v yet_o untouched_a by_o you_o but_o sure_o i_o be_o you_o be_v sufficient_o touch_v and_o more_o than_o touch_v by_o it_o and_o i_o trust_v you_o be_v not_o past_a feel_n i_o wish_v you_o will_v serious_o lay_v it_o to_o heart_n sect_n lxiii_o mr._n goodwin_n seven_o consideration_n be_v to_o this_o purpose_n that_o that_o text_n viz._n hebrew_n 6.2_o so_o much_o insist_v upon_o by_o you_o 6.2_o heb._n 6.2_o and_o the_o brethren_n with_o you_o do_v import_v a_o plurality_n of_o baptism_n though_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o end_n of_o baptism_n to_o we_o there_o be_v but_o one_o baptism_n eph._n 4.5_o 4.5_o eph._n 4.5_o yet_o in_o respect_n of_o variety_n of_o subject_n and_o different_a form_n these_o may_v bâ—â—_n many_o and_o therefore_o these_o form_n not_o express_o declare_v and_o manifest_v in_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v a_o hard_a and_o unchristian_a thing_n to_o call_v those_o church_n accurse_v and_o unclean_a that_o shall_v not_o use_v that_o particular_a way_n or_o form_n that_o you_o so_o much_o magnify_v and_o insist_v upon_o to_o this_o you_o answer_v first_o why_o shall_v that_o be_v hard_o to_o mr._n goodwin_n which_o the_o scripture_n have_v make_v easy_a say_v you_o that_o be_v your_o interpretation_n no_o text_n express_o or_o by_o necessary_a consequence_n prove_v what_o that_o form_n be_v say_v i._n 2._o as_o for_o variety_n of_o subject_n the_o scripture_n say_v you_o mention_n but_o one_o viz._n disciple_v person_n to_o this_o i_o have_v reply_v before_o sect._n 32._o mr._n