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A44841 The Quakers house built upon the rock Christ Wherein neither their doctrines, principles, nor practices can be confounded, not disproved; being neither damnable, nor pernitious. As Samuel Hammond hath falsly affirmed in his book called, The Quakers house built upon the sand: or, a discovery of the damnablenes of their pernitious doctrins, in his answer to G.W. which to prove, he lays down seven grounds of delusion, and five arguments of damnable doctrine. But in this answer his seven grounds is proved false in themselves, ...; and his five arguments is proved to be his own false positions, ... as first, he lays down false positions, and then proves them false; and then boasts, as if he had proved our doctrines or principles false: the truth of which is herein clearly made manifest, and wherein he falsly accuseth us, he is justly guilty himselfe. Also the ten fundamentall principles or doctrines of the hireling priest-hood, ... By a servant to the Church of Christ, ... Richard Hubberthorne. ... Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662. 1659 (1659) Wing H3227A; ESTC R221606 34,515 47

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save their tythes have rashly closed with them Ans. As for a spirit of giddinesse hanging loose to the truth that thou shalt never find in us for we are staid and established in the Lord and in his truth and shall be faithfull in the truth of God which we have received untill we see the Land cleansed of all Hirelings and Deceivers which make a Prey upon the people for dishonest gaine for from you who pretend to be Teachers of others is prophanesse gone forth into all the Earth and your wayes and Doctrines have corrupted it so that not a pure heart nor an undefiled mind and conscience can be found in your Congregations not one that is unreproveable in the sight of God and Gods witnesse in you all shall seale to the truth of my testimony And as for those three sorts of people which thou saith turn Quakers First ancient Professors these knew as much and practised more of things which were just and righteous then thou dost before they knew the life and power of truth which now they live in and are both learned and established in the things of God And why doth thou accuse them for being unlearned and unstable before they turned to us while they followed thee and such like Here thou proves thy own Doctrine that which doth not learn not establish people and not ours For if they were anciest Professors under that Ministery and not learned nor established consider where the cause was How could they be established where they found neither life nor power of God amongst you But now they have found him of whom Moses and the Prophets did Write that should come and they doe not look for another And now are they both learned and established in the wayes of God And therefore doe not thou upbraid them with what they were before they received the truth in the love of it and obedience to it And as for the young men and women of which thou saith is come to terrous and shakings and convictions then they are come further then ever thou came for they that are sensible of convictions terrours and shakings wrought by the Spirit of God they may be thy Teachers which hath but the words of them and art ignorant of the power by which they were wrought and therefore thou brings forth such words of darknesse as thou hast expressed as that thoso that follow the light of an awakened Conscience and sit downe under that and are under terrours and shakings that these are ●nllod a sleep by Satan Is not this blindnesse and ignorance is this according to the forme of sound words were they nor a sleep before their Consciences were awakened But now when they follow the light which wakens their Consciences which is the light of Christ and when they through the obedience to his light doe the works of righteousnesse is this a ground of delusion or when they are thus led dost thou say they are then lulled a sleep by Satan this is a putting darknesse for light and light for darknesse and in stead of shewing us to be in the ground of delusion thou shews thy own ignorance and blindnesse to all that are able to discerne any thing of truth And for the third sort which thou saith for covetous ends to save their Tythes hath joyned with us In this will all sober people and men of understanding beare witnesse against thee and by the effects even their sufferings thou will be condemned as hundreds of this Nation hath suffered the spoyling of their Goods and Imprisonment for a testimony against you and them which covetous men could not doe as some for the value of five shillings Tythes have goods taken worth five pounds and for three pounds worth of Tythe goods taken worth ten pounds and for Tythes of the value of two shillings taken ten shillings And many I could instance which have had taken from them seven times the value and ten times the value and some forty times the value And then how is this for covetousnesse And others here in this County of Bishopriok the Priests send their men to take peoples Lamb● out of the field and off the Common and their Corne off the field which they have laboured for without any Law or pretence of Law which according to Law might be proceeded against as Sheep-stealers and Corne-stealers which if there be Law to give them Tythes then according to the order of Law they are to receive it and not to take mens goods by violence and thus we suffer the spoyling of our goods with joy which if we for covetousnesse denyed Tythes as Hammond accuseth us we could not suffer men to act so contrary to both Law and Gospel and spoyle our Goods and beare it patiently and many thousands in this Nation can in faithfulnesse beare witnesse against him in this thing that it is not for covetousnesse but in obedience to the Lord and bearing a faithfull witnesse against the Ministery that make merchandize of soules and of their goods also which the Lord is bringing downe by the arme of his power and making their folly manifest unto all men And according to his promise he will bring a shame and a perpetuall reproach upon them which by their iniquity and their heavy burthens have kept in captivity the Seed of God which now by his mighty power he is bringing forth to prayse and glorifie him and to rejoyce over all the false Prophets and Teachers which hath caused them to suffer in the time of darknesse and ignorance The second ground of our delusion as Samuel Hammond saith is this Priest Our not being able to distinguish betwixt the rightsousnesse imputed upon the account of the blood of Christ and the righteousnesse or holinesse wrought in us by the Spirit c. Ans. If this were true this were not a ground of delusion for God will not give any up to a reprobate sense nor condemne them for their not being able to distinguish for then he should condemne them for not doing that which they are nor able to doe Here thou art ignorant of the Scriptures and of the ground of delusion and it being my Duty and Calling to instruct the ignorant and him that is out of the way I shall shew thee the grounds of delusion according as it is written in the Scriptures as Rom. 1. 21. Because that when they know God they glorified him not as God neither were thankefull but became vaine in their imaginations and their foolish heart was darkned Ver. 22. Professing themselves to be wise they became fooles as thou hast done And wer 28. And even as they did not like to retaine God in their Knowledge God gave them over to a reprohato minde to doe those things which are not convenient And this was not because they were not able to distinguish but because they did not like to retaine God in their Knowledge And because that when they knew God they glorified him not as God and by
keep people from the light within which gives the Knowledge of the glory of God and from the Word within and the Kingdom within and the grace within in which their hearts should be established Heb. 13. 9. and by grace they were saved Ephes. 2. 5. and that being justified by his Grace we should be made beires according to the hope of eternall life Tit. 3. 7. And the Word of Christ was to dwell in them richly in all Wisedome from which they were to a imonish one another in Psalmes and Hymnes and spirituall Songs singing with grace in their hearts to the Lord Col. 3. 16. and their speech was to be alwayes with grace seasoned with salt that they might know how to answer every man Col. 4. 6. and all these is to be known within And Christs Doctrine to the Pharisees was to bring their minds to within and told them the Kingdom of God was within them Luke 17. 21. and Christ bids them Beleave in the light while they have the light that they may be the children of light John 12. 36. And Jesus said unto them I am the light of the World he that followeth me shall not walke in darknesse but shall have the light of life John 8. 12 and Iohn a man sent from God came for a witnesse to beare witnesse of the light that all men through him might beleeve and saith this was the true light which enlightneth every man which commeth into the world and in this light Christ bid them beleeve in and follow And Paul said that he was sent to opes their eyes and to turne people from the darknesse to the light from the power of Satan unto God that they might receive the remission of their sins and be partakers of the inheritance among them that was sanctified Acts 26. 18. and this was the Gospel which the Apostles Preached and hereby may the ignorant be instructed which hath not read any word in the Scripture of light within of Christ within nor the worke of grace within which I have read of all these to be within and beleeved it Harmonds third Ground of our Delution is this Pr. Their not being able to distinguish betwixt being justified ●coly by Grace which is the favour of God upon the account of shrist satisfaction and the Grace wrought by the spirit in the senls or rather that naturall light which being improved they call Grace as he saith Ans This is like the other proceeding onely from ignorance For God will not give us up to delusions that we may be damned for that which we are not able to doe for God doth ●e puire according to what a man hath and not according to what a man hath not for if we have not power nor ability he will not condemne us for that but for ahusing that power and ability which he hath given us to be obedient unto him in for that he is condemned and because that he doth not retaine God in his Knowledge therefore he is given up to a reprobate sence and to strong delusions And whereas thou saith That we cannot distinguish between the Grace of God which is the favour of God upon the account of Christs satisfaction and the naturall light which being improved thou saith we call grace Ans. Yea We have alwayes distinguished between the justifying Grace and a naturall light for the light of the Sunne and of the Moon and Starrs is narorall and by their light the naturall man sees the Creation and the things in it And we never said that this if improved was the Grace so thou falsly accuseth us And that light which we say is within and which Christ hath enlightened every man withall is not to be distinguished from the favour of God for it is the love and favour of God to man that his free Grace which bringeth salvation hath appeared unto all men Tit. 2. 11. and by this Grace and not another are they saved who are saved though thou and others turne this grace into wantennesse and then speaks despightfully against the spirit of it and against its being within For if people be once brought to the grace of God within and the light within then they will see your deceitfull Teachings without but while you ear keep them blinde you may Preach for Hire and Divine for Money and they will love to have it so but so soon as any comes to the grace within and the light within then they see your wayes and Doctrines and receives the testimony of the Lord against you which testimony is now going forth in the mighty power of the Lord and God hath raysed up his Sonne which is the light of the World and his faithfull witnesse in his Children and thousands shall come to the brightnesse of his rising whereby you shall all be discovered who hath laboured to quench his appearance and the breaking forth of his light which will stand over you for ever Hammonds fourth Ground of Delusion is this Pr. Our not distinguishing betwixt the Covenant of Works and the Covenant of Grace and for the proofe of this instances the Perfect Pharisee and because we say That Christ is the end of the Law for righteousnesse c. Aus. Let all people take notice of his proofe those lye● and false accusations which he and Coale Yrideaux Weld and Durant did speak against us five yeares since which was proved false by the Answer to it those he takes as sufficient proofes for his false accusing of us now men of understanding will be ashamed of his Folly if because that he standered and falsly accused us five years agoe and doth so now again Is his first lye made a proofe for his second If he would have proved any thing against us our Doctrine or Principles to be a ground of delusion he should have proved it from our words or writings and not from his own accusations as by the Perfect Pharisee Againe he brings our words because that we have said that Christ is the end of the Law for righteousnesse therefore this proves the ground of our delusion and that we cannot distinguish betwixt the Covenant of Grace and the Covenant of Works Then the Apostle is proved to be in the ground of delusion as well as we for he said the same words Rom. 10 4. and this saith he is the direct Popish Doctrine who say that Christ is the end of the Law for righteousnesse as in the fifth page of his Book but saith he they expresse it of inherent righteousnesse and so calls it because Christ works it in them Answer As to say that we expresse it and call it inherent we have not so exprest it nor called it so But if because Christ works his righteousnesse in us we say the righteousnesse of the Law is fulfilled in us who walke not after the flesh but after the spirit Rom. 8. 4. If we say that Christ is the end of the Law for Righteousnesse this is not Popish
but from man many would have beleeved you for they know it is so but when you charge your own guilt upon the Apostle and say that he did not receive the Gospel from God but from man herein many wi●l beare witnesse against you for they know and beleeve to the contrary Priests eighth Principle That Gr●ce cannot be conveyed to any man from the Lord 〈◊〉 it 〈◊〉 the ordinary outward means of Preaching Ans. This is to limit God from his spirit and power within and Word in the heart as Rom. 10. to outward Preaching and to ordinary outward means this is blasphemy● as to say that God cannot convey Grace to any man but ●y outward Preaching And if you meane by your outward Preaching the Grace of God hath appeared to all men where your outward Preaching never came But in this all people may see your darknesse and that your offence is not onely against us but against the Apostles and against God himselfe for giving his Grace freely to people who will not be limited by you And by such Doctrines as these the Lord God hath made you to appeare as you are an ill savour in the Nation who goes not about onely to keep people from the gift of God in them but also to limit God from giving good gifts to his children who by the free Grace of God received from him without your outward Preaching shall witnesse against you and your outward Teaching by which he never conveyed 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Priests ninth Principle That the light spoken of in John 1. which enlightens every man c. is not sufficient to leade up to Christ Ans. In him was life and the life was the light of men Iohn 1. 4. And this was the true light which lightene●● every man that commeth into the World ver. 9. Now let all people consider whether the life of Christ which is the light of men be not able to leade to Christ or to the Father For he was the light of men that all men through him might beleeve ver. 7. And here is Christ and his light ●ccused yea his life accused not to be sufficient so it is no great matter if by those men we be accused when neither the Father nor the Sonne nor the holy Apostles of our Lord Iesus Christ can escape their accusation but we are not greater then they and so with patience we shall beare it for it is enough for the servant to be be as his Lord Priests tenth Principle That they know no such thing as Prophesie by immediate Inspiration or Revelation in these dayes Ans. No How should you know any Prophesie by Inspiration that knows not how God can give any Grace but by outward Preaching so you are farre from the gift of Prophesie who are yet ignorant of the spirit of Grace by which God gives Grace unto his children But though you know no such thing yet there is such a thing and the Lord is faithfull who hath promised Ieel 2. that he will powre out his Spirit upon Sonnes and Daughters Servants and Hand maids and they shall Prophesie And there is both Sonnes and Daughters Servants and Hand-maids that now doe Prophesie And there is no Prophesie but by immediate Inspiration And because that Sonnes and Daughters doe now Prophesie being Inspired by the holy Ghost and from the gift of God received therefore is your envy and rag● so great against them because you know no Prophesie nor no Gospel from God but from man and so you are contrary to the Apostles For he would have had Prophesying in the Church and bid them covet to Prophesie But these Priests forbid to Prophesie contrary to the Apostles Doctrine and Writing 1 Cor. 14. 39. Now when people ●ath tryed you What can they expect from you that knowe no Prophesie by Inspiration nor knows no Gospel from G●d nor knowes not the flesh of Christ nor no sufficiency in his light nor his spirituall Body which is in Heaven nor the Gospel which is the power of God nor no Knowledge of God by the Revelation of his Sonne and these being your maine Fundamentall Principles in which you so blasphemously are erred from the Truth it is now high ●nto to turne away from such for many people have been deceived by you for they had thought that you had had the Knowledge of those things which now it is manifest you are ignorant of And now blessed be the God of the spirits of all flesh who hath discovered your ignorance and blindnesse which for a time was hid under a pretence of words but now he hath rent the Vayle of the Covering and he is drying up the Fountaine of your Imaginations from whence your empty Words have proceeded that his life may have place in the Earth which is now breaking forth amongst his Children which are come to the Fathers Teachings which you have laboured to keep them from But now hath the Lord loosed their bands and brought them to his owne Teachings and into his owne Fould where they need no more your false meanings nor cousenings of those words which the Spirit of the Lord inspired in them which gave them forth And the Everlasting Day of God is broken forth upon us though Night be come upon you that you have no Vision and the secrets and Councels of the Lord is shut up from you that you have not a Word from his Mouth But truely the Lord is good to Israel even to them that be of an upright heart And the Lord is with us as a mighty terrible one therefore our persecutors shall stumble and they shall not prevaile they shall be greatly ashamed they shall not prosper their everlasting confusion shall never be forgotten Ieremiah 20. 21. For now is the Lord establishing his Everlasting Covenant with his seed even his Covenant of life and peace with those in whom the Law of truth is in their Hearts and iniquity not found in their l●pps who walk with God in peace and equity and doe turne many away from their iniquities Mal. 2. 5. 6. And this shall all they witnesse that feare the Lord and that walke in the way of his Righteousnesse FINIS