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A93704 A warning-piece discharged: or, Certain intelligence communicated to His Excellencie the Lord General Cromvvel, with all the real and cordial officers and souldiers under his command. Wherein the present tempers of each society of people in this Commonwealth, under each degree or notion whatsoever, are inserted and controverted, in relation to the election of a new representative. As also, a brief and full parallel betwixt the history of Israel and our late and present series of affairs. In which simile, our present general is compar'd with Moses, as he was their deliverer, judge, and general. By John Spittlehouse, a late member of the Army. Spittlehouse, John. 1653 (1653) Wing S5016; Thomason E697_11; ESTC R203634 20,397 27

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one and nihilating the other untill they had kindled another flame in the bowels of this Common-wealth which how easily they might have done amongst so much combustible matter I leave to all rationall Men to judge Object Hee needed not to have done it so publickly as you speak of but privately to some few persons Respon And must not those persons have published it privately to others untill all the reall party had been acquainted therewith for why should not all have been made privie thereunto as well as some and that through England Scotland and Ireland For if not all why any but such as must of necessitie which was accordingly done And therefore without dispute it was the onely wise course that could have been taken had Seneca himselfe been living and had had a hand therein Againe Suppose they had made you privie to such their designe what sort of persons would you have made choice of for the Management of the aforesaid imployment Object Such as wee were confident are both able and faithfull Men to the interest of the Common-wealth Respon Doth not this your Answer secretly imply that the persons now in present Power are neither faithfull nor able And if such be your construction of them are they not very much beholden to you for such an Opinion after such their so long and ample demonstrations of their reall and Cordiall affections towards you but I hope better of you though I thus speake Againe Did you judge them able and faithfull why should you not rather encourage them to goe forwards then in the least to dishearten them for can you have fitter persons then able and faithfull Men to governe you Object Wee acknowledge we cannot but by suffering such persons to govern us as at present wee shall for ever be cut out of all our birth-rights for not onely this Generall but all that shall succeed him will claime the like priviledge ad infinitum Respon Can you say the present Generall claimeth more power and authoritie then did Moses and was Moses reputed by the Israelites as their King No surely for such was the envious expressions and suggestions of Corah and his Rebellious Accomplices for otherwise hee was onely esteemed as a Deliverer Captain and Judge Object Had he not the same power as hath a King Respon No for wee see there was a vast difference betwixt the Judges and Kings of Israel as appeares by 1 Sam. Cap. 8. For Samuel telleth the Israelites there of no old matter or manner of Government when he describeth unto them the nature and qualities of the Kings of the Nations whom the said Israelites then thirsted to imitate By which discourse it appeareth that the Judge did not exact one tenth of the State or Power which the said Kings claimed as their Prerogative Royall Which the said Israelites found to their cost in Solomons dayes as by wofull experience they told his sonne Rehoboam 2 Chro. Cap. 10. Object Wherein consisted the chiefe difference betwixt Moses and a King Respon The Prophet Samuel telleth you in the aforesaid Chapter where when the Israelites had desired a King to judge them Mark Like all the Nations viz. the Heathen Which must unavoydably be the Consequent for if Israel was the onely peculiar people of God then all the rest of the Nations must needs be Heathens at that time when them words were spoken the partition wall not being then broken downe Object But wherein lay their sin in desiring of a King like all the Nations Respond In that by such their desires they did in effect forsake God and become Heathen as 1. In desiring a King like all the Nations was plainly to betake themselves to be governed by the Lawes of the Nations and so consequently in a desperate manner to forsake the Law of God and so consequently God himselfe as in 1 Sam. 8. 7. 10. 19. And hence it was that the Lord to signifie his detestation to such their desires inforceth them by his judgements to confesse and that before their King that they had added to all their sinnes this evill to aske them a King Cap. 12. 19. 2. The evill of having a King like all the Nations was to put themselvs into the condition of the Nations who were accustomed to attribute all their victories deliverances to their Kings as the Scriptures doe plentifully declare and that without ascribing them in the least to providence And hence it was that when they had a King the Lord doth upbraid them for their Idolatrous humor to Monarchie as in Hosea 13. where he useth these expressions to the aforesaid Israelites viz. When Ephraim saith he spake trembling he exalted himselfe in Israel but when he offended in Baal he dyed c. Yet saith he I am the Lord thy God from the Land of Aegypt and thou shalt know no God but mee for there is no Saviour besides mee I did know thee in the wildernesse in the land of great drought According to their pasture so were they filled they were filled and their hearts were exalted therefore have they forgot mee Therefore will I be unto them as a Lyon as a Leopard by the way will I observe them I will meet them as a Bear that is bereaved of her whelpes and will rent the cowle of their heart and there will I devoure them like a Lyon the wild beasts shall tear them O Israel thou hast destroyed thy selfe but I will be thy help I will be thy King where is any other that may save thee in all thy Cities And thy Judges of whom thou saidst Give mee a King and Princes I gave thee a King in mine anger and took him away in my wrath For the fuller illustration of this read 1 Sam. 8 15. 16 Chapters so that Israel is chiefly said to have undone it selfe by asking a King to judge them like all the Nations or Heathen 3. The evill of having a King c. was to change them from being the people of God to become Heathens as to imitate them in all their licentious courses for certainly a King like unto the Nations must needs Act in all things according to the Kings of the Nations Or otherwise hee degenerateth from being such a King for to be like them is by imitating them and not otherwise And commonly where such a King is there will be like Subjects without the great restraining power of God to prevent the same So that the good Kings of Judah acted rather like Judges then Kings as by making the Lawes of God the rule and square of all their actions Whereas they that ruled as did the Kings of the Nations viz. according to Samuels description as aforesaid were all Idolaters as were the Kings of the Nations Yea it is evident that many of them indeavoured as farre as in them lay to out-strip the Heathens in wickednesse instance Manasseh c. So that as I said before the consequence of desiring to be ruled by Kings is