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A42713 A false witness examin'd and rebuk'd, and the stedfast, sincere obedience of the people called Quakers, unto Christ Jesus, their souls captain bishop and high-priest, asserted and vindicated : being an answer to a book, entituled, A declaration concerning the people called Quakers, &c., given forth by I know not who, there is subscribed to the said book, Christidulus Ecclestion, but whether this be the name of the author, or only a feigned name, is a question but I do not know the author by that name, nor do I hear of any that doth, neither did I ever know any man or woman by that name / by ... Wilson Gibson. Gibson, William, 1629-1684. 1674 (1674) Wing G683; ESTC R9682 18,480 20

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to Bury his Dead in our Grounds Though as I am credibly informed such an Apostate as this Author may in end had his Child laid in the Burying-ground which doth belong to the People of God called Quakers in London this Denyal did not arise from Covetousness as he wickedly would insinuate but was done in Zeal as a Testimony against such an Apostate And if the Body of the Deceased Wife or Children or other Relation of such an Apostate have been refused to be laid in our Burying-Ground only at the said Apostate's Desire I ask this Author What Suffering this Denyal can bring upon the Deceased Wife Child or other Relation of the afore-said Apostate In the 15th 16th 17th pages this Uncharitable Cavilling Busie Body throws out his Slanders upon some of the Servants of Christ who long have been and yet are a Blessing in the Hand of the Lord amongst his People he slanderously charges some such amongst us who at first were raised up to declare the Eternal Truth as he saith to be Changed or Apostatized and by their Evil Example to have been Instrumental in leading the People called Quakers from their former Sincerity to God Answ If the Father of Lyes and old Accuser of the Brethren were not Head in him then these Slanders would not proceed from him But out of the Abundance of the Evil Treasure that the Evil One hath put into his Heart he brings forth these Evil Things for which the Just God will bring him to Judgment in his own due time And tho●e whom he thus slanders and revi●es do in their Hearts desire that he and such as he might find a time and place to Repent of all their Hard Speeches and Ungodly Deeds which they have done and said against the Lord and his People that so they might obtain Forgiveness at the Hand of the Lord God This Uncharitable Caviller hath taken upen him to judge the Servants of the Lord concerning their Food and Raiment which they do receive from the great Creator who blesseth and sanctifieth the same unto them by his Word and Power which dwelleth in them I do tell this Busie Body in other mens Matters That these men whom he enviously accuseth have received Wisdom and Counsel from their Lord Christ Jesus how to behave themselves in his Church both with respect to their Food and Raiment and all those other things wherein they are judged by him I do on their behalf as knowing them better then he doth turn his Slanders back upon his own Head and let him know that both they and I do refuse to learn of such Envious Slanderers as he is Glory to the Lord we have a better Teacher And I further tell him that Pride in Apparel and Excess in Eat●●● a●d Drinking whether Wines or other Liquors with all Idle Vain and Sinful Discourse or Communications of what sort soever is at this da● denyed and witnessed against by those men upon whom he hath cast his Slanders both in their Doctrine and also in their Lives and Conversations as many Thou ands can witness Glory to the Lord God for the same This Author begins in the 10th page to tell a long rambling Story concerning a Taylor and a Shoe-Maker whom he calls Quakers this Story lasts from the page afore-said to the 14th page and he calls this Story A Dialogue between a Taylor a Quaker and a Shoe-Maker a Quaker b●t he doth not tell us the Names of this Taylor and Shoe-Maker nor where we may find them and therefore we have Cause to suspect that it is Thomas Hicks-like a Dialogue of his own framing to abuse the People called Quakers with But if that which he speaks in the Taylor 's and Shoe-Maker's Name be a Real Discourse between a Taylor and a Shoe-Maker who esteem themselves of that People who are called Quakers then I tell him That as God hath no Pleasure in him that draws back but in him that presses forward to the saving of the Soul so the faithful People of God called Quakers have no Pleasure that this Taylor and Shoe-Maker or any other should draw back from God into any Evil which God has once redeemed them out of and when any that come amongst us do go back into Evil it is Cause of Grief unto us But if this was a Real Discourse between a Taylor and a Shoe-Maker who esteemed themselves of that People called Quakers and that what thou hast said in their Name against the People called Quakers was really their words then I must tell thee these men were nearer of Kindred to thee such as thou art then to those People and I shall briefly endeavour to shew thee wherein In pag. 14 15. thou speakest thus in their Names viz. I think I may speak it between thee and I saith the Taylor There is much Lo●●iness and Pride amongst Friends as there is amongst any Sect of Religion whatever And thou makest the Shoe-maker to say Yes it is True Answ But I say it is False and Slanderous and Thousands of the People called Quakers and others have a Testimony in their own Consciences it is False ●nd so if thou hast speaken Truth of the Taylor and the Shoe-Maker in this Matter then we deny them and their Testimony in this Matter and also testifie against their Back-sliding and do desire that they may Repent and do their First Works lest God take them away in his Anger This Author begins another rambling airy Story much like to the former in pag. 8. which ends the latter end of pag. 10. Though this is not called a Dialogue yet it is writ Dialogue-wise like the other they are so like one to the other that they seem as though they had both one Father or Author and whether this Author is the Author of one or both of them is known to the Heart-searching God The Story is concerning a Trades-man or Shop-keeper called a Quaker and a Man of some other Profession this Author suggests that the Person who is called a Quaker did when he came to the Knowledge of the Truth deny for the Truth 's sake the selling of some Vnlawful or Vnnecessary Commodities But he is not so honest and plain as to tell us who this Shop-keeper is or what those Commodities are yet he now charges it upon him That he meeting with one of his old Customers a Man of another Profession after they had saluted one another with a How d●st do and How do you do Sir c. the said Shop-keeper did ask his old Customer What dost want any of such and such Commodities Vpon which his old Customer as this Author words it answer'd What do you sell such Goods again Sir And the other as he saith replyed Yea I think as good as ever thou sawest The Matter charged by this Author against this Shop-keeper is That he now sells again for his Earthly Advantage some Vnlawful or Vnnecessary Commodities which by the Power of God he was
constrained to deny to sell in former time To this I answer If it be really so as thou sayest I say concerning him and all others in his State as I said before in the Case of the Taylor and the Shoe-Maker that is That as God hath no Pleasure in those that draw back towards Perdition but delights that all should press forward to the Salvation of their Souls so God's faithful Remnant in Scorn called Quakers have no Pleasure in the Vnfaithfulness or Back-sliding of any that know and profess the Truth amongst us But our tender Breathings and Desires are That all that know and profess the Truth may live and grow up in it as Trees of Righteousness bringing forth more and more Fruit to the Praise of the Lord God Almighty who is worthy to be feared and served in Faithfulness by all who have tasted how Good and how Gracious he is to him be all Glory Praises Dominion and Honour now and for evermore Amen In pag. 15. this Envious Author utters two Slanders against the People of God called Quakers the first is That if a man ●m●●●st us lives poorly though never so honestly and stands in need of some Relief or Assistance from this People then this People pronounce hard Sentence against him That he is not Faithful to God and That he is Cursed in his Basket and in his Store c. and That he hath little or no Part in the Kingdom of God I answer This is a Notorious Slander proceeding from the Father of Lyes as the Honest Upright hearted Poor People amongst that People both in London and in many Parts of England can and will testifie and as God hath made all Nations of one Blood to dwell upon the ●ace of the whole Earth We know that an Upright Honest-hearted Poor Man and Woman is as near and dear to the great God their Creator and the Lord J●s●s Christ who has tasted Death for every man 〈◊〉 and Poor as the Rich Man or Woman is And with God there is no Respect of Persons because of their Riches or Poverty outwardly as with respect to spiritual Rewards or Blessings upon their Immortal Souls and as to the Lord so they are to us the Lord knows and our Practice testifies it The other Slander which I purpose to speakto which is contained in this page is This ungodly Author saith 〈◊〉 now G●in amongst the People called Quakers is accounted Godliness that is as he saith in the same page A great House and Furniture and Fulness of Corn Wine and Oyl c. Ans I may say unto this Lying Tongue as a Man of God once said What shall be given thee oh Lying Tongue ●t Coa●s of Juniper The Wrath of God is treasured up against that Lying Spirit which is thy Head which God in his due time will pour forth upon it which to it will be an endless Cup of Torment Now I shall come to speak something to the first page of this Author's Book he begins to the People call'd Quakes thus speaking to them in general terms saying Before the Way of the Lord was manifested your States and Conditions were miserable as to God-wards living in Pride Filthiness and all manner of Vncleanness in Covetousness Drunkenness Swearing Lying Whoredom Hypocrisie Disimulution c. Answ Here he speaks at Random not like a Man sent of God to judge and teach us for he doth not Divide right and therefore he is not the Lord's Mouth unto us For though we shall readily confess that we have all sinned some more and some less and so have all come short of the Glory of God and so our States were miserable * Though the Vail of Darkness and Ignorance long abode upon several of our Hearts yet we can say In that dark time the Lord God was near unto us who by his pure Spirit kept us out of such Gross Evils as this Unruly-tongu'd Author would cast upon us And in a deep Sence of the dear Love of God in preserving us in that dark Time we do in deep Humility give Glory unto him for he is worthy yet that we generally even in our most estranged state from God did live in all manner of Uncleanness as he chargeth us is utterly denyed by us for many of us can say as having God's Spirit bearing Witness to our Spirits to the Truth of what we say That we were never guilty of divers things which he charges upon us in general Terms But had he been sent of God to teach us he would have distinguished aright as the holy Apostle did who asked the Saints saying Know ye not that no Whoremonger or Adulterer or Covetous Man who is an Idolater c. hath any part in the Kingdom of God or of his Christ and he said unto them Such were SOME of you Mark that He did not say they had all been such or that they had all lived in all mauner of Uncleanness To conclude with this Author at this time I say Though some professing the Truth amongst us may through their Unfaithfulness to God have helped to fill his Evil Heart with this Evil Treasury of whom he may have said something that is true in it self yet with in that bad Spirit he will never make them better Yet I tell him there are many thousands who are clear from his Accusations who have the Testimony of the Good Spirit of God bearing witness with their Spirits that they are his Children who are led by the spiritual Appearance of his Beloved Son Christ Jesus out of their former Vain and Sinful Conversation and who are upheld by him that they do not draw back towards Perdition but do daily wait upon him and by the Ve●tue of his Power are pressing forward to the perfect 〈…〉 Immortal Souls And as I have told him before As God hath 〈…〉 that draw back neither have his saithful People But they are grieved with the Back-sliding and Vnfaithfulness of any who have Known Redemption by Christ Jesus out of their Sins in any measure And we do desire that such may hasten to seek a Place of Repentance and that they may come to the doing of their First Works lest God cut them off in his Anger Some there are who came with us to taste of the Heavenly Gift and of the Power of that World which is without End who are fallen away and Apostatized from it and are turned into Enmity against it and against the despised People called Quakers who keep their First Love to it and Habitation in it as those are gone out from us because they were not of us so likewise some few there may be who may yet appear amongst us who being gone from that Pure Divine Life of Christ Jesus by which alone we are upheld to God such are not of us and if they do not return unto the Lord by Unfeigned Repentance them will the Lord reject they being as the Salt which hath lost its Savour and as the withered Branches who are separated from Christ the living Vine And though some few are already gone out from us and some such may yet go and add to the Number of the envious Apestates of which Generation this envious slandering Author bears a great Resemblance yet the Work of the Lord amongst the People called Quakers doth daily prosper God hath the whole Body of Mankind to work upon He that gave unto his Prophet the Vision of the Valley full of Dry Bones and gave him a Command to Prophesie unto them and they stood up at his Command and became an exceeding great Army he is the same at this day as ever he was whose Voice is crying through the Earth and daily raising Desires in fallen Man and Woman after himself so that though here and there an Unfaithful Person full away from God and so from Unity with his People yet many more are raised up in their stead and the Number of the Lamb's Followers are daily increased for which the People of God called Quakers do give Glory and Honour and Praise unto him whose Will is That all men might know the Truth and he saved As I live saith the Lord I have no Pleasure in the Death of him that dyeth but that every one might turn from his Wickedness and live And this Holy Pure God who is a Fountain of Love and Life gives a general Call and Invitation unto all the faln Sons and Daughters of Adam to come unto him saying Look unto me O all ye Ends of the Earth AND BE YE SAVED for I am God and there is none else a Mighty God and a Saviour Isa 45.22 1 Tim. 2.1 2 3 4. This I have written in the Love of God as a Testimony to the blessed Work which he has wrought and is daily working more and more in the hearts of his People in Scorn call'd Quakers and as a just Rebuke to this scandalous Author And I say O that he and all his Brethren the Apostate Enemies of the Lord Jesus Christ and his faithful Followers might seek and find a P●ace of Repentance Oh! blessed will they be who turn from their Iniquities while the Day of their Visitation lasteth even while the Spirit of the Lord God strives with them for is will not alwayes strive with man William Gibson London the 29th of the 9th Moneth 16●4