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A16909 A briefe treatise of diuers plaine and sure waies to finde out the truth in this doubtfull and dangerous time of heresie Conteyning sundrie worthy motiues vnto the Catholike faith, or considerations to moue a man to beleeue the Catholikes, and not the heretikes. Set out by Richard Bristow priest, licentiat in diuinitie. Bristow, Richard, 1538-1581. 1599 (1599) STC 3800; ESTC S106653 144,155 432

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the same euer since that time no exāple being able to be brought vnto the contrary Wherefore the Protestants and Puritans bycause they are not sent but come of their owne heades are but as all other Heretikes they are not of Christes Church they are as hee of whom Saint Paul in a brief description of a false-apostle said 2. Cor. 11. Si is qui venit If he that commeth They are as Christ hath said Ioan. 10. Qui non intrat per ostium in ouile ouium s●d ascendit aliunde ille fur est latro vvho so entreth not by the dore into the shep fold but getteth himself vp another way he is a stealer and a robber And therefore must the shepe beware of them not heare them flee from them remēbring that fur non venit nisi vt furetur mactet perdat The theefe commeth not but to steale and to murder and to destroy Vnto this they neuer were nor neuer shal be able for to answere no exāple being to be giuen in al this time of Christes Church but that the Preachers stil were sent in such order and by such persons as I haue saied no ex●mple of any sent our of order al this while finally no exāple also of any aforetime that vvas sent out of order that had not withall giuen vnto him the grace of Miracles or Prophecie or of both as Moyses and some others in the old Testament our Heretykes being of those graces altogeather destitute therefore by no meanes to be accompted Gods ministers namly in this time of the nevv Testament where neither they worke Miracles neyther any haue bin euer sent but only by order Succession COnsider moreouer vvhat Church is that which can giue you in plaine authenticall vvriting the lavvfull orderly intiere without any breach and sound notorious Succession of Bishopes Pastors and Priestes with theyr whole and seueral flockes euer synce the Apostles tyme. Can not ours thus doe Or can the Protestants thus doe Or was it euer the true Church that could not so doe Or was it not euer the true Church that could so doe What one of al these things can be denied or with any exception be disproued Who readeth in the new Testament the Actes the Epistles and other writings of the Apostles with the Ecclesiastical Histories of the tymes that folowed which can be ignorant of this that the Church once begonne by and in the Apostles did afterward grow on and spread it selfe ouer al places and through al ages by this Succession So that whosoeuer will say at this day them-selues to be the true Church it is as necessarie for them to be come of the Apostles by a certaine Order of Bisshoppes continually succeding one another from that time to this time as it is necessarie for vs that now are Adames children to be come of Adam by a continual petigrew of our Fathers Grādfathers and other progenitors euen till his time So likewise as it is necessarie for the feete to be referred to the head by certaine articles ioyntes one after another ouer al the whole body and not enough to say that they hang and hold with the head bycause they come of the neck vnlesse they also haue their depēdaunce by the shoulders and so douneward ouer al the body euē by the knees legges and ancles And in this doth S. Hierome note all Heretikes to faile where he saith In Mic. ● Haeretici non habent diuitias de paterna hareditate venientes Heretikes haue not such riches as come to men by plaine inheritance from their Fathers And namely to the Donatists vpon the same saith Optatus De dotibus Ecclesiae Cathedra est prima Lib. 2. quam probauimus per Petrum nostram esse Vestrae Cathedrae vos originem reddite quivobis vultis sanctam Ecclesiam vindicare Missus est victor ex Africa Roman● Erat ibi filius sine patre sequens sine antecedente Of the Churches dowries the Chaire or See of Rome is the first which we haue proued by Peter to be ours now the origine of your chair giue you that will challenge to you the holy Church Sent in deed by you out of Afrike was Victor to Rome that you might say you had also on your syde a B. of Rome but he was there as a sonne without a Father a Successor without a Predecessor vvherby he gathereth that the Church of Rome was not for the Donatistes bycause this Victor whom they sent thither to lurke in a corner as their B. of Rome vvas there the first of that sort came not from S Peter by succession For so did only Syricius the true B. of Rome at that time and bycause hee so orderly succeeding to S. Peter vvas with Optatus and the other Catholikes in Afrik not with the Donatists thervpon concludeth Optatus that theyrs was the holy Church not the Donatists for al their fatherlesse apish Bisshopp Victor by them sent thither So sure an argument of the true Church was it euer to haue the B. of Rome Saint Peters Successors societie and so sure an argument of a false Hereticall Church was it euer to sitte without succeding And therefore doth S. Augustine amogest other most certaine Motiues that most iustly kept him in the lap of the Catholike Church giue this for one Con. ep Maen● ca. 6. Tenet ab ipsa Sede Petri Apostoli cui pascendas oues su●● post resurrectionem Dominus comendauit vsque ad praesentem Episcopatum Successio Sacerdotū There kepeth me in the said Church the Succession of Priestes from the very sitting of Saint Peter to whom our Lord after his resurrection cōmitted the feeding of his shepe euen to this present Bishop And the same cause so mouing him he proposeth to the consideratiō of the people of the Donatists as a cause most certaine why they should forsake those heretikes and returne vnto the Catholikes Thus he saith Venite fratres si vultis vt inseramini in vite Dolor est In ps con partē Den. cum vos videmus praecisos ita iacere Numerate Sacerdotes vel ab ipsa Petri Sede in ordine illo Patrum quis cui successit videte Ipsa est Petra quam non vincunt superbae inferorum portae Come Brethren if you will that you may be grafted in the vine It is a greife to see you so lie cut of Number the Priestes euē from the very sitting of Peter and in that order of Fathers see who suceeded whom That is the rocke which the proud gats of Hel doe not ouercome The verie same likwise giueth Tertulliā for a most vndoubted prescription agaynst such Heresies as dare vaunt them-selues to haue bene in the Apostles time Quae audent interserere se aetati Apostolicae This is his saying De praescri haer Edant ergo origines Ecclesiarum suarum euoluant ordinem Episcoporum suorum Let them then shew forth the origines of