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A66414 Pulpit-popery, true popery being an answer to a book intituled, Pulpit-sayings, and in vindication of the Apology for the pulpits, and the stater of the controversie against the representer. Williams, John, 1636?-1709. 1688 (1688) Wing W2721; ESTC R38941 69,053 80

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