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A77378 The loyall convert, (according to the Oxford copy.) A convert will be loyall: or, some short annotations on this book; / by W. Bridges. Published by authority. Bridges, W., fl. 1644.; Quarles, Francis, 1592-1644. Loyall convert. 1644 (1644) Wing B4483B; Thomason E257_2; ESTC R210047 51,595 31

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are peremptorily ignorant Sir and forfeit your discretion very often The death of our Lord was voluntary quoad depositionem it is true himself saith so Ioh. 10.18 I lay down my life no man takes it away But yet necessary too quoad decretum as I shall shew you out of your owne scriptures Mat. 26.54 how then should the Scriptures be fulfilled which say that it must be so Ob. But He was a single person We a representative body what is unexpedient in the one is lawfull in the other Ans Worse and worse If our blessed Saviour be not Representative Tell me whereof art thou a Member woe be to that Body politick which endeavours not to be conformed according to the Head Mysticall He preacht peace (q) If alwayes you say something but if ever otherwise either by himself or his your paralell is not worth a point See Mat. 10.34 and be not rash Your Martiall Ministers by what authority they best know proclaime warre (r) He preached obedience with limitation Mat. 22.21 Cesar's due no more you like a company of flatterers as you are preach it without limitation He Obedience They Sedition (s) Do not impudently tax us of preaching lies shew any one so doing and name him otherwise you must needs father the lye The Gentleman you glance at in the word Martiall is quite beyond your aspersion and till the Court admire such Micaiah's I am afraid the Kings undertakings wil be but like Ahabs journey to Ramoth Gilead though 400 such as you say all Goe up and Prosper He Truth They Lyes He (t) Order is a word of great latitude Sir and I beleeve you mean Order of Bishops Order of Cathedralls Order of Church-service c. Look about you and you have been answered No know God is the God of order and not of confusion Order They Confusion He Blessednesse to the peace-makers They courage to the (u) In your two last particulars you beg shamefully 1 You would have us think such as you mean to be Peacemakers Who are indeed our only Peacebreakers You are such and we have found you such on every treaty that we have had with you like him that shed the blood of warre in Peace We have found you as the men of Meseck and Kedar degenerating indeed which whiles we and you too talk of Peace make you ready to battaile Psa 120.7 2 You would have us think that imprisonment for malignity and as incendiaries in a state is persecution for righteousnesse No we know you suffer as evill doers are buffetted for your faults and desire you to remember the old rule Non poena sed causa martyrem facit It is not the punishment but the cause which makes the Martyr Sir it becomes them that bring such a rayling accusation as this so full of bitternesse and grosse falsehood to draw it to particulars and to say This and this was done by such and such a person and persons We who desire information beleeve me do think the blasphemies lyes and brasse-brow'd impudencies to be on your side Persecutors He Blessednesse to the persecuted They brand them with Malignitie that call them blessed God was not heard in the whirlewind but in the still voice But his thoughts are not as our thoughts neither are our wayes like his wayes But whence proceeds all this even from a viperous Generation which hath long nested in this unhappy Island and those encreased multitudes of simple soules sedued by their seeming sanctity who taking advantage of our late too great abuse of Ceremonies are turn'd desperate enemies to all Order and Discipline being out of charity with the very Lords prayer because it comes within the Popish Liturgie How many of these have lately challenged the name of sanctified Vessells for containing the poyson of unnaturall Sedition How many of these have usurpt the stile of well-affected for dis-affecting peace How many of these have counterfeited the honour of good Patriots for largely contributing towards the Ruines of their Country How many does this Army consist of How for their sakes is Blasphemy connived at Sacriledge permitted How for their encouragement are Lyes and brasse-brow'd Impudencies invented nay publisht nay published in their very pulpits and tolerated if not commanded even by them who perchance where this quarrell ended would throw the first stone at them How many of our Learned Religious and Orthodox Divines who by their able Tongues and Pens have defended and maintained the true ancient and Catholique Faith and vindicated the Reformed Religion from the aspersions of her potent Adversaries are now plundered in their Goods sequestred in their Livings imprison'd in their persons if not forced in their Consciences whilest their Wives and poore (x) There shal be judgement mercilesse to him that sheweth no mercy Iam. 2.13 I pray you open your eies and see the justice of the Lord of hosts in this thing Adonibezek shall rise up in judgement against you his confession is Iud. 1.7 As I have done so God hath rewarded me So must you say too Remember your earecutting undoing depriving suspending mercilesse high Commission Court and then say God is just When a ships lading of those that your party drave to New-England were sayling thither O sayes a creature of one of your Courts that a storm would come now and sinke all these into the bottome of the sea this is a peece of your charity Beleeve it Sir you have been bloodily mercilesse and the just God is now in making inquisition Children begging their bread are left to the mercy of these unmercifull times even for the encouragement of them whose (y) Surgunt indocti et rapiunt caelum et nos cum omnibus doctrinis nostris detrudimur in gehennam Aug. pedantick learning durst never shew her ridiculous face before an easie School-man whose livelyhoods they unworthily usurp not dispensing the bread of life but the darnell of giddy-headed fancy and sedition abhorring the way to peace and maligning those that ensue it Ob. I but we desire Peace so we may have Truth too Ans What mean ye by having Truth The preservation of the Old Truth or the institution of a New If ye feare the alteration of the Old having your Soveraigns Oath which you dare not beleeve what other assurance can you have The Blood you shed is certain the change you feare is (z) It is an easie matter for you to write so but it is not so easie for you 〈◊〉 make wise men think so Solomons prudent man and his fool with their previsions and provisions are to be seen Prov. 22.3 You are very confident of your abiliti●s that dare oppose your judgement to that of a whole State uncertain it is no wisdom to apply a desperate Remedy to a suspected disease If the enjoyment of peace depends upon a full assurance of Truth our discords may bear an everlasting Date God hath threatned to remove his Candlestick and our wickednesse