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A54586 The visions of government wherein the antimonarchical principles and practices of all fanatical commonwealths-men and Jesuitical politicians are discovered, confuted, and exposed / by Edward Pettit ... Pettit, Edward. 1684 (1684) Wing P1892; ESTC R272 100,706 264

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a Glass of Wine with you but that I have extraordinary business with yonder Gentleman at present But pray meet me to morrow about three of the Clock at the With all my heart replyed Seignior Christiano and then took his leave of him Turning again to me That Jesuit said he entertain'd me very civilly at Rome but I don't like his company in London Why Sir said I is he a Jesuit He is so replyed he I remember him a great deal better than Oates does Don John That those Sir said I who receive moneys from the French Agents should exclaim against French Pensioners that a Jesuit should cry down Popery is no more news than that an old Bawd should inveigh against Fornication that a Libertine should struggle for Toleration may be because in the height of his Politicks he may fancy that the letting loose the Lyons in the Tower or three or four thousand Bears would most properly conduce to the good of the Subject But I wonder that the people of England should be cajol'd into Fears Discontents and Mutinies by such an unreasonable and ridiculous distinction as of the Court and Countrey Party For have the Courtiers no Estates No Interests in the Countrey Have not they Liberties and Priviledges appertaining to them as well as the rest of His Majesties Subjects Are they not as fit for His service who have been abroad and have learn'd the experience in Foreign Countreys and know their Designs and Policies are they not as fit for his Great Council as if they had only strutted after a Pack of Dogs or walkt up to the knees in Puppy in their own Grounds all the dayes of their lives I do not speak this to reproach any Countrey Gentleman No Nation in the World has more or better qualified for all Honourable employments than this of England has in every County but I speak it against those who object against any Gentleman though every way well qualified only because forsooth he is a Courtier as if a man could not be a Good Subject and a Good Patriot at the same time and in the same place Why any body should fear that they should be instrumental to the Bringing in of Popery I cannot tell But I am sure a man may observe more Devotion in the Kings and Dukes Chappels than in any other Churches or Chappels in England But of all the men living they have the most reason to be against Tyranny if there was the least reason to fear it For search the Histories of all Ages and you will find that under Tyrants none of the Subjects were more in danger than those who immediately attended upon their persons What a miserable condition were the very Cronies of Alexander Nero Domitian c. in The Officers of the Grand Seignior's Seraglio at this day though fine and gay are the veriest Slaves of the Turkish Empire and a Bustling English Countrey Fellow would sooner chuse to dangle on a Gibbet than to stand sixt and starcht in such a posture of silence and mortification as they are forc'd to do many hours together Why then is this unreasonable this silly distinction 'T is they replyed Seignior Christiano who make a difference between the King and his People that make this distinction they who would destroy the King and his Government alwayes begin with his Council and his Court. This is but the repeated practice of these restless and Diabolical Politicians and according to the methods and growth of the late Rebellion you may trace them in all the waies that directly led to the last Hellish Conspiracy No Vermin that were ever run down ever left such a stink behind them all the way for these twenty years we have had the second part to the same tune of Lying Libelling Reviling Swearing Forswearing Caballing Canting and Covenanting So that I do not wonder that you in your * Visions of Thorough Reformation p. 230. last Book that was Printed before the discovery of their Hellish Conspiracy should so positively foretel their Doom who had so diligently observ'd their practices I do not reply'd I pretend to be either a Prophet or a Poet but when his Majesties Declaration was read I was startled to find them playing the same Game over again so exactly that a Body can scarce distinguish their Conspiracy in 83. from their Villany in 62. which they then confest and for which some of them were executed for the ends and design were the same and that too was managed by a Council of Six as I have observ'd in that Book I alwaies fear'd that they would grow desperate and certainly concluded that they would never be quiet until they had again either ruin'd the Government or themselves Yet the particulars which the King has declar'd to all his Loving Subjects and which they themselves have confest and acknowledged more waies than one are so astonishing that I tremble to think that ever it should enter into the hearts of men to destroy so excellent a Prince so wise and just a Government by such Barbarous and bloody means as would make the most wretched slaves afraid to think of Attempting against the most cruel and Tyrannical Moors and Infidels and most of all amazing is it to consider that men of Honour Estates and good Education as they say they had should ingage themselves in so unnatural and barbarous a Conspiracy for Gods sake how shall we wipe off that huge scandal that is brought upon the English Nation before all mankind upon Christianity before Infidels and Vnbelievers upon the Reformation before Papists by this unnatural and cruel Treachery There 's a question indeed reply'd Seignior Christiano for a Politician to ask I can carry you to several people in this Town that can do it in the twinkling of a Cows Thumb How is that said I Why the Fanaticks lay it upon the Church of England they say that most of the Conspirators were Conformists Well! they confess then said I that there was a Conspiracy but I say that they that were ingag'd in it were no more of the Church of England than those who cut off King Charles his Head are of the Church Triumphant He that rebels against his Sovereign is no more a Member of the Church of England let him go to Church as oft as he will than those Jews were of Christs Mystical Body who oft came to him and throng'd him and yet at last denied and Crucified him But Sir that I may by any means be somewhat instrumental to the preventing men from running into such dangerous Courses for the future Pray let me know some of those Principles by the which they at first are insensibly wheedled and drawn into these fatal practices for the present The truth is Sir reply'd he the first and last Movers to these Enormities let them pretend what they will are the Devils of Pride Ambition and Covetousness But because 't is the trick of such Politicians to puzzle the understandings of men
Sacred Name in a piece of Paper and do these Christians make nothing to blaspheme it upon so trivial an account Oh! Jesu if thou be God as the Christians say thou art as thou by the hands of Amurath the Second didst revenge the perfidious dealing of Ladislaus the Hungarian King and punish him for his Perjury so look upon these people that dishonour thy Name and take vengeance on them for their Blasphemy Then turning to us You are said he civil Persons and I heartily thank you for your goodness towards me but I 'll return to Turky and rather endure the meanest slavery of that place than the wickedness of this So away he went in great hast and fury putting me in mind of Hathny a Nobleman of the Indians who being told that the Spaniards went to Heaven renounc't his Baptism protesting that He would rather go to Hell with the unbaptiz'd than to live in Heaven with so cruel a people He was no sooner gone but we fell into the company of a Gentleman that was of the Reformed Church and born in Romania He had been throughly acquainted with all the Scruples and Controversies which the Rigid and Factious Calvinists and other Sectaries had raised in Bohemia Hungaria Misia and Transylvania and whilst He was in England had a full account of our Ecclesiastical Government given him to his full satisfaction and being withal a Person of good Learning and fine Conversation we were extremely glad to meet him but our first Respects were interrupted with the loud talk of two Clergymen one of them saying What a noise have we had this whole Age about a few insignificant Ceremonies my Living would be worth 40 l. per Annum more were it not for these Ceremonies 't is they make so many Dissenters they keep people from coming to Church Then your Father had an hard Bargain of it when He bought that Living for You replyed the other 't was well it was not known that it was actually void when He bought the Presentation What was that either to him or me replyed he again if there was any going to the Devil in the Case his little Atturney had his Fee for that Journey besides you know my Father is a Presbyterian and so he did not act contrary to his Conscience because He thinks it Lawful And to save my self I told him that if He let me know what it cost him that I would not take it for I would not break my Oaths for all the Preferments in England but a deuce take these Ceremonies I wonder at our Bishops and Governours that they should stickle so much for them for now the Plot is discovered they say they are willing to come to Church but for them You are troubled about Ceremonies said the other and I have as much reason to be concerned for the Substance for my part I can get no Preferment the Bishops are the most partial men in the World and where they take a fancy think no preferments too much whilst others may e'en lick their fingers and starve I have had a good mind to Johnsonize or Allsopize a long time But now the Plot is discovered as you say I am resolved to be a swinging Tory for the dissenting Preachers are quite broke How do you know that said he Why reply'd he a Tradesman in London said That he had about Fifty Pounds owing him by them and when he lately went to demand it he was told that they wondered that he should be so impudent as come for money in time of persecution Mr. Halicius for that was the Gentlemans name could no longer forbear them but turning to him that last spoke As for you Sir said he it signifies not a farthing whether you be of a Conventicle a Mosch a Synagogue or a Pagode for you are resolved to be of no Church until you see which way the Wind lyes by the Weather-cock upon the Steeple But for that Gentleman that is Instituted and Inducted into the Nine and Thirty Articles of the Church of England let me advise him when he parts with the Ceremonies ee'n to throw the small Tythes too into the bargain for I do assure him they will scarce be contented with the great ones at last If the experience of the late Plunderings and Sequestrations here in England will not convince him Dr. Basier can tell him what vexatious troubles and controversies they have from little beginnings raised in all the Eastern Provinces of Christendom and what a squabble they afterwards made about Episcopacy at Moras vaherheli in the year 1657. even whilst the Turks were knocking at the fore door and the Jesuits at the back Sir said I without going over the Water one would think that what King Charles the First foretold would befall the Trimmers in his dayes might forewarn those of our * See Pryn Repub. p. 16. Those now called Moderate Men they will then said he call Malignant and the inequality injustice and oppression they will then endure will too late discover to them to their cost that they have undone themselves with too much discretion and obtain'd nothing by their unjustifiable cautious compliance but to be destroyed at last But for those people who raise and object these scruples upon the account of their Tender Consciences it has been enough discovered wherein that Tenderness consists and 't is as manifest that they have no Conscience at all and they as little who comply with them I do verily from my heart believe that there are some in the world that make Objections and dispute against some Ceremonies and Forms of Prayer in the Liturgy wherein there are publick Devotions appointed for every day of the year Morning and Evening who do not once in a Month pray in private I am very plain I say I do believe it What signifies the Surplice to so black a Villain as Ferguson Why should such a Messenger of Satan as Oates scruple to pray for all that travel by Land or by Water Do you think the Ring in Matrimony any great Nusance to such an Hellish Cheat as Meed Or that they value the Sign of the Cross the Banner of the Obedient and Holy Jesus who are Rebellious Traytors at home and joyn with impure Infidels abroad Whether they were both convinc'd or asham'd I cannot tell but they march'd off and as they were going This I must say said Mr. Halicius in all the world where ever I come that there never was in any Church since the plantation of the Gospel more Pious Learned Ingenious and truly faithful Clergy-men than there are at this day in the Church of England and if these and all other lukewarm Trimmers were spued out of it it would be much better for the Body of it and for the Head too We were now walking still onward until in a shady solitary place we saw a Non-conformist Preacher fall in among a company of women who were very Rich in their Garb they seemed somewhat