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A18440 An answeare for the time, vnto that foule, and wicked Defence of the censure, that was giuen vpon M. Charkes booke, and Meredith Hanmers Contayning a maintenance of the credite and persons of all those woorthie men: namely, of M. Luther, Caluin, Bucer, Beza, and the rest of those godlie ministers of Gods worde, whom he, with a shamelesse penne most slanderously hath sought to deface: finished sometime sithence: and now published for the stay of the Christian reader till Maister Charkes booke come foorth. Charke, William, d. 1617. 1583 (1583) STC 5008; ESTC S107734 216,784 212

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consisted not in those thinges whiche papistes take to bee their greatest glory For it was not so much for the virgine to haue borne Christe as to beleeue in Christe nor for the Apostles to haue seene Christe in the fleshe and to haue beene presente at his myracles as to see him in spirite and faith beeing assured that he was the true Messias Euen therefore like as all the members of a bodie being knit in the same body are partakers of the gouernement direction grace righteousnes glory of the head to that whole bodie so the members of Christ are alike directed gouerned iustified sāctified and saued howe soeuer their places bee different in that mysticall body the grace and merite of Christe are equally dispensed to all that are his The saints that were then the saints that are nowe are alike sainted And as for our merite wee knowe none nor claime it howsoeuer the saints of God haue difference of giftes doe differ by offices by times and places and according thereunto shall differ in glory one from another And this is the inequalitie that the Doctors which you speake of doe mention And therefore Christe our best scholemaster hath taught vs which also is to bee learned of you when the woman cryed out that the wombe was blessed that bare him and the paps that gaue him sucke hee replied Yea blessed are they that heare the worde of God and keepe it Againe when they tolde him that his mother and brethren were without to seeke him hee replyed they are my mother and my brethrē that doethe will of my father Euen as they are the right sonnes of Abraham that are his sonnes not according to the fleshe but according to faith and the promise of God And as for your Dionisius Areopagita whome you woulde of a forrenner make a free 〈◊〉 by the bare mention of his name in two generall councels and yet name but one and infinite other testimonies wherof you name none yet it is plaine by the starre in his forehead that hee is not that Dionysius but some bastard and stranger in deed far from that natiue knowledge sinceritie iudgement religion that the other was like to bee of As for the place out of the first Epistle of Iohn the thirde Chapter whereby you woulde proue that they onely are holy and righteous whiche so woorke righteousnesse that they comprehende all righteousnesse If this be true then not onelie Peter and Paul and the blessed virgine but also all the saints of God are without this working iustice and so not iust But if this bee true righteousnesse to beleeue in Christe who fulfilled all righteosnesse not for him selfe but for vs who by faith communicated the same righteousnesse vnto vs which is not of vs nor cleauing in vs but in him who is made our righteousnesse then no onelie they but also wee doe exercise that righteousnesse and walking as the children of God the time that wee are heere fighting against 〈◊〉 and expecting his glory we shal be glorified together with him for euer Thus you might see if God had opened your eyes what smal cause you the rest haue had thus to storme vniustly to carp against the doctrine of that excellent man of God Martyn Luther whose flaunders howe you haue iustified I leaue it to the iudgement of the Churche of GOD and howe M. Charke hath dealte it is set downe and cannot bee carried with the preiudice of an aduersarie with blustering and storming lying and facing to deface it but beeing the truth shall cleere it selfe and stande when suche poore deuises and beggarly shiftes shall fall and come to nothing For the truth beeing of God must needes bee true Diuinitie against whiche though Satan rage and bestirre himselfe neuer so busily to ouerthrowe yet the more hee sweateth the greater glory shall bee set vpon it tyll it bee beautified sined and cleered from the corruption of man and all his 〈◊〉 Againe that whiche is from the Diuell though it come into the worlde with strong winges and as a mightie streame with great beautie as he is a very cunning painter and that which is nought needeth greater curiositie to set it out That whoore is a rose coloured whoore and that whiche is in the cuppe though it bee a cuppe of golde to allure the wicked though the mouth of the beast speake great and terrible things and the whole worlde be taken with the hewe of it yet in the end it shall appeare from whence it came and take such foile fall as truth can giue If the doctrine that M. Luther taught had beene suche black diuinitie learned from the Diuel which this blasphemer aduoucheth it neither had proceeded from God could haue stoode so long nor haue endured such tryall nor haue so ouerthrowne Satans kingdome nor weakened the power of Antichriste as thanks bee to God it hath done and shall doe daylie more and more All heresies that haue proceeded from the Diuell and from his instruments carrie with them a sufficient marke who was their father As they had a beginning so they haue had shall haue an ending but the truth of God which is without beginning which is not learned from man as the authour of it it cannot perishe because GOD cannot perishe and whatsoeuer man builde vpon it whiche may perishe yet the foundation shall remaine sure Therefore to call this a licentious and carnall doctrine is to blotte not Luther but God seeing it hath beene prooued according to the trueth of God that incredulitie is the roots of all finne and iniqnitie that true christians truely beleeuing in Christ howsoeuer they sinne there canbe no dānation vnto them that 〈◊〉 soeuer the 〈◊〉 of god belong vnto vs there is no iustificatiō but by the keeping of thē yet forasmuch as Christ hath fulfilled thē satisfiyng y e righteousnes of his father for vs we are discharged from that yooke of death and condemnation so as their power cannot come neare vs. As for the other thinges heaped vp in the conclusion the premisses beeing confuted they are also confuted And therefore this is but a countrie Bagpype whereupon Syr Robert stil bloweth and as it were is stil twanging vpon one string like a Iesuiticall Friar to delight those that followe the diuels daunce to bring them to vtter destruction As touching that whiche followeth concerning other absurde doctrines whiche M. Charke thought that Parsons passed ouer by an hyperbole that hee may not bee founde a 〈◊〉 as hee is he taketh vpon him yet to 〈◊〉 many grosse absurdities first generally accusing M. Luther that of all other writers he hath written the most absurdly Whiche by threatening some kindnesse vpon M. Charke hauing reade some of his workes hee saith hee must needes knowe In deede the truth is that the nearer he was vnto his Friers coule the more appeared his weakenesse But as God drew him further out