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A09147 The Protestants theologie containing the true solutions, and groundes of religion, this daye mainteyned, and intreated, betwixt the Protestants, and Catholicks. Writen, by the R. F. F. VVilliame Patersoune religious priest, Conuentuall of Antwerpe, preacher of Gods word, and Vicar generall of the holy order of S. Augustin, through the kingdome of Scotland. The 1. Part. Paterson, F. William. 1620 (1620) STC 19461; ESTC S101863 199,694 338

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lyk in all things and equall in degrees of dignitie ANSVVER SAINCT Paul might do it iustly because they were bretheren in the office of Apostleship also for that he had the same holy Ghost with Peter Yet it is to be obserued that no doctrine of S. Peters was then reproued as false but only his behauiour in an outward act as Tertul. lib. de praes Haeret. witnesseth For all the fault was in his conuersation and not in doctrine for he conuersing with the Gentils without respect of the keeping of the law for he belieued the law to binde no man yet at the comming of certaine Iewes he abstained from the Gentils thinking thereby he should do more good to the Iewes to abstaine frō some meates so that Paul reprehended his dissembling in that the Gentels also were compelled to plaie the Iewes as S. Aug. Epist 19. ad Hier. notes vpō this place Yet no lesse S. Paul in this fault is also culpable in tollerating the obseruance of the law in that he circumcised Timothie against the doctrine of the Ghospell Act. 20. Now in that fashion of reproufe S. Paul belieued that the tyme was proper that no man should winke at the ceremonie of the law and to dissemble longer for it was vnprofitable for they belieued the tyme was come to professe Christ plainly c. OBIECTION CHrist is the Head of the Church as the Apostle sayes Eph. 4. He hath constituted him head ouer all the Church but if Peter be head and consequently after him the Pope of Rome there shal be two heades of one body which is absurde Ergo. ANSVVER HOw impertinently doth Luther inferre this argumēt against vs to proue the body of the Church to be a monster with two heades For we doe not say that Peter is a lyk equall head with Christ but vnder Christ that is to say head-vicar substitute in the place of Christ and so a second head after Christ that is an head of all others frō Christ or of his misticall body which of all men groweth in Christ and so he is not the head of the full body seing he is not the head of Christ but Christ is simpliciter absolute head of the whole Church yea of Peter who is a member of this whole body notwithstanding more worthy then others As a Vice-roy is truly head of that Kingdome of which he beares charge neuer-theles the King is superior and first head of all his Kingdomes euen so Christ and Peter who is called a rock Matt. 16. and a foundation 1 Cor. 3. vers 11. but not first for Christ is only the first stone layed in the foundation of the Church but Peter is the second foundation and rock vpon whom the rest of the Church is founded by Christ OBIECTION IF the Pope succeed to Peter Ergo he is an Apostle which is false ANSVVER THe sequell is friuolous for more things are requyred to the Apostleshipe then to succeed to the Apostle to wit that immediatly he be called of God moreouer that he be taught of God his doctrine and sent with authority to effectua● the same and lykewise to be indued with the gift of the holy Ghost to write canonicall Scriptures Which things the Pope hath not although in the meane tyme he doth obtaine the Apostolicall power in the whole Church in which he hath succeeded to S. Peter from whence it is called the Apostles seat because of the iurisdiction and authority which the Apostls had and was giuen immediatly by Christ OBIECTIO THE Counsell may depose the Pope therefore the Pope is not supreame head of the Church when the Counsell may depose him ANSVVER THe assumption is false absolutly for a counsell with iudiciall authority cānot depose the Pope because the first seat is iudged of no man the reason is because the Pope hath receaued authority in the whole Church immediately from Christ so that the Church can no way take away that authority Put the case that he should be a manifest Heretick he should not be deposed of men but of God who will not retayne such a vicar who de facto declars himself an heretick cuts himself of so manifestly from his body eyther by euidence of deed or by declaration of a generall counsell QVAESTIO IX Of the Roman Sea of S. Peter WHerefore doth the Roman-Papists boast so much of the succession of the Roman Byshops seing S. Peter was neuer at Rome Welenus Illyr Magdeburg Sebast Franc c. ANSVVER IT is probable that Peter was not only in Rome and to haue made his residence in it but to haue been crucifyed there Howsoeuer the impudēcy of Heretickes doth prate against the tradition of all antiquity It is probable that Peter was in Rome by his owne epistles First it is proued out of his owne first epistle cap. 5. v. 13. saying The Church collected in Babilon salutes yow that is to say Rome which he calles Babilon because it was full of riches persecution superstion and idolatrie with all manner of sinnes reygning in it as witnesseth Eus lib. 2. cap. 15. Lykwise Papias the disciple of S Iohn sayes that Peter in his first epistle which he wrote from Rome hath remembred Mark whom he calleth his sonne Rome is called Babylong in which figuratiuely he hath nominated Rome Babilon when he sayes that Babylon salutes yow Lykwise Hie● de Vir. Illust in Marc. sayes that Peter in his first Epistle vnder the name of Babylon figuratiuely signifieth Rome Moreouer to haue houlden and kept the Episcopall Chayre at Rome At Rome he ouercame Simon Magus and there to haue ouercome and been victor ouer Symon Magus This S. Aug. declares lib. 2. cont lit petil cap. 51. reprehēding the Hereticks in this manner saying VVhat hath the Chayr of the Roman-Church done to thee S. Aug. defendeth the seat of Rome in which Peter hath sitten and in which at this day Anastasius doth si●t Moreouer speaking of Simon Magus lib. de Haer. ad quoduult Har. 1. sayes that he Heretick gaue the images both of himself Simon Magus superstuious dealing in Rome and of the whorishe citie to his disciples to be worshiped the which at Rome he had set vp by publick authority as the images of the heathen Gods in the which city the blessed Apostle Peter ouerthrow him by the true vertue of God omnipotēt thus he For all the Hystories His ouerthrow at rome by the power of God and Holy writers with generall traditions in all ages haue testified that S. Peter came to Rome as sayes Egisip lib. 3. cap. 2. Ire● lib 3. cap. 3. But and Euseb the professors of ●●●ditious sayes in Ch●on Eccl. Hist. lib. 2. cap 15 That in the secōd yeare of Claudius the Emperour Peter the Apostle when he had first founded the Church at Antioch he went to Rome Peter preached at Rome XXV yeares wher preaching the Euangely twenty-fyue-yeares he remained Byshop of that same towne And S.
priestly vnity began neyther do they consider them to be Romans whose faith is praysed by the Apostles owne mouth to whom infidelity can haue no accesse This he For this Seat Emperours and Kings honoured and reuerenced Ruff. lib. 10. Eccl. Hist. cap. 2 Lykewyse Byshops To the sea of Rome infidelity can haue no accesse and Prelates haue made their appellatiōs to Rome as Cyp. cont epist. Steph. ppae Hist. tripart lib 4. cap 15. Arnob. in ps 106. Opt. mel cont parm Donat lib. 2. Hier. Epist ad Dam. Papa By her authority Generall Counsells haue been indicted and appointed By the authority of the roman see Hereticks Schismaticks are accused No Heretick Byshop euer found in the sea of Rome Schismaticks and Hereticks by the same authority or accursed and condemned In this succession and authority noe Heretick Byshop euer was found as witnes S. Aug. epist. 165. And therefore as S. Aug. sayes to the Donatists in ps cont par donat Come yee bretheren if yee wil be grafted in the vyne it grieues vs when we see youly thus cut of Nomber ye the Byshops euen from the very seat of S Peter and consider who succeded whō in that order that himself is the rock which the proud gates of hell do not ouercome What greater testimony can be said for the primacy of the Byshop of Rome and successor of S. Peter whom all good Christians ought to honour and reuerence as the high priest of God and gouernour of his Church OBIECVIO THe Protestants affirme that Peter himself is not called this rock but eyther Christ alone or the faith which Peter confessed is called this rock So that the wordes of the text are thus meant Vpon this faith and confession of thyne which thow hast testified of me vpon this rock which I am or on this stronge faith which is confessed of me I will build my Church And wheresoeuer this faith is there is the rock vpon which Christ buildeth his Church ANSVVER ALbeit the faith cōfession of Christs-goodhead be indeed a most stronge rock wherevpon the Church is builded yet that is not all which Christ meanes at this present For these wordes thow art Peter haue a respect vnto three diuerse tymes First to the tyme past because they are spoken to him who was promised to be called Peter And secondly to the present tyme because they are spoken to him who now confessed Christs-goodhead And thirdly to the tyme to come because they are spoken to him to whom Christ sayes he wil giue the keyes of Heauen and vpon whom he will hereafter build his Church which thing he performed when he sayd to him Peter louest thow me c. Io. 21. For the proposition is qualified with the persone to whome it is spoken and with the diuersity of three tymes To conclude the Protestants deny Peter himself who make the confession te be this rock and deuyde the confession from the promise going immediately before which wrought the effect which ensued after for somuch it is affirmed true but in respect of that which is denyed it is a maine falshood for Christs wordes doe teach that this rocke wherupon Christs Church is built is S. Peter in respect of the promise past present confession and the authority of feeding of Christs sheepe Io. 21. OBIECTIO PETER alone was not made the sheepheard of Christ flock aboue all others but that in him Christ spake to all the Apostles ergo ANSVVER PEter alone is spoken to and commanded to feede Christs sheepe in the presence of al the other Apostles to none of thē Christ speaketh any thing therof at this tyme. Ergo Peter alone is preferred OBIECTION AL Hereticks cry out that all the Apostles were equall and the rest were the same thing which Peter was which thing say they S. Cyp de vnit Ecclaes doth witnes and lykenwyse the very practise of the Apostles in so much that Paul withstood and reproued Peter who was not one of the twelue Ergo. ANSVVER SAINCT Peter was not only an Apostle in which office duringe their lyues all the Apostles were his equalles but also both chiefe Apostle and also ordinary sheepheard and high Byshop wherin they all were inferiors to him as the members and body to the head Ergo. OBIECTION THe old Catholik Fathers haue written and pronunced that no mortall man as Peter was but Christ himself the sone God can be this head Ergo. ANSVVER IT is manifest false for all the ancient Fatheres agree and affirme that Peter receaued the building of the Church on him as Bas aduers eunom lib. 2. Hilar. lib. 6. de Trinit S. Cyp. ad Iubatan S. Aug. de past S. Hier. lib. 1. de Iouin l●b 2. aduers Iouinian Leo in assumpt serm 3. Aug. Epist 165. in Tract Io. 124. OBIECTION SAINCT Aug. de verbis Domint sayes Christ was ●he rock vpon which foundation Peter himself ●as also built Ergo. ANSVVER WHo doth not know that one rock might be built on another the lesse on the greater is not the house of God built of many stones Christ is the chief Rock and the corner-stone vpon him lyeth S. Peter a Rock in comparison of Christ very small in comparison of vs very great Vpon S Peter the rest of the Church which liued vnder him was built who is also a Rock since euery man in his degree is a liuely stone concurring to the building vp of the whole Church which are ioyned togeather and fastned by faith and charity make also a Rock of themselues beside that they are built vpon the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles 1 Pet 2 1. Cor. 10 Ephes 2. Neyther doth one of these verities contradict or disproue the other Ergo c. OBIECTION VVHEN the Apostles who were in Ierusalem had ●eard that Samarta had receaued the word of God They sent to them Peter and Iohn Act 8. But no man is sent but by a higher power Therfore Peter was not head of the Apostles ANSVVER THe holy Ghost is sayd to be sent of the Father and of the Sone is not yet the holy-Ghost of equal honour and dignity with them Is it therfore because he is sent that he is inferiour But we vnderstand that he is inferior that is sent by commandement Otherwyse equals and superiors are sayd to be sent from thē at whose request counsel they go chiefly if those from whom they come be of great authority with those to whom they are sent And such was the college of the Apostles in Sama●ia For indeed it was much to moue them that the Prince of the Apostles with the beloued disciple of Christ by iudgemēt and decree of all the Apostles came to their conuersion OBIECTION IT is sayd that Peter did suffer an heauie reprehension of the Apostle Paul Gal. 2. to wit that to his face he withstood him but this was not decent in a subiect or inferior Therfore the Apostle did not acknowledge Peter Superior but a
7. Brent in prolog cont a sotum Cent. Madeb lib 4. cap. 7. ANSVVER I Say no counsell eyther particuler or generall or whatsoeuer Prelates or Byshopes are assembled haue any infallible authority to defyne themselues without the authoritie and approbation of the Byshop of Rome No counsel may of it self define matters of faith without the head Diuers counsels haue erred which we proue manifestly with reason seing suchlyke sometymes without his authority haue erred as the counsell of Ariminense in which counsell were six hundrith Byshops with Arius in which it was defined by thē that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 homousion should not be vsed as an vnproper word which is to say that Christ Iesus in his Godhead is not to beheld consubstantiall to his Father Lykwise the Counsell of Millan which confirmed the Heresie of Arius Neyther this should seeme to any a maruell that two such great Counsells are dispysed and reiected because they are imperfect and lame without a head neyther doe such Counsels represent the vniuersall Church but only the body of the Church without a head Therefore it is not to such lyke coūsells The promises of God are to the head not to the body not to no particular member that the infallible promises of Gods diuyne assistance in defining matters of Faith are promised and effected but only to the head who by lawfull ordination hath receaued from Christ immediate power and authority to defyne matters of faith as head of the Church So that the body cannot defyne any thing without the head In the head is the sensitiue power to rule the body seing in the head are the sēsitiue powers of the body Therefore the body is vnder the gouernement of the head and not contrariwyse the body to rule the head Moreouer whatsoeuer counsell hath ioyned to it the authority and approbation of the Byshop of Rome is of infallible authority whether it be general prouincial The counsel of Ierusalem is a paterne to all other lawfull counsels or national because the decrees and definition of the counsell of Ierusalem are called the decrees of the holy-Ghost who cannot erre In which counsell it is sayd it is seen good to the holy Ghost and to vs. Act. 15. v. 28. For this cause all other counsels lawfully assembled may say the same words representing the vniuersall Church because that counsell was the forme and exemplar of all other counsels lawfully gathered with the authority of the head As also because no lesse necessary is the assistāce of the holy ghost in these letter dayes then he was in those dayes but now more necessary because of the greater breaking out of Heresies Greater reasōs are in these tymes to gather coūsels then were in the dayes of the Apostles which shall deny our Lord that hath bought vs bringing on themselues swift damnation not knowing what they professe and lyuing lyk brute-beastes only seaking their pleasures and liberty without contradiction of a superior power For which causes generall counselles are vsed to be ordayned that they may suppresse and extinguish such new nouelties and Hereticall opiniōs which from the beginning of the Church by generall counselles with the head as chief Pastor and vicar of Christ haue byn damned accursed So that aswell by Scripture as reason it concludeth that whatsoeuer counsell is gathered lawfully and hath the authority of the Pope Counsels approued by the Pope are infallible is infalible that in one word I shall make it euident that euer in the Church that auncient costume hath bene that whatsoeuer decreetes of a Synode were concluded were euer sent to the Byshop of Rome to be confirmed Counsels remit their decree and examination with the Hereticks books to the Pope to be censured by his iudgement and approued So that S. Aug. Epist 90. beareth witnes of the counsell of Chartage wrytting in these wordes to Innocent Byshop of Rome saying vnto our most blessed Father and honourable brother Holy Innocent Pope VVe Aurelius Mundinus Rusticanus Fidentius and the rest who were present in the Counsell at Carthage and after cōmemoration of those who were present and of those things which were decreed in the counsell against Pelagius they add these words following Lord and holy Brother we haue thought good to intimate to thy charity what we haue done that the authority of the Apostolick seat may be annexed to the statutes of our iudgementes and meaning for the defence of the saluation of many and the correction of the peruersitie of some others as also the Heretical booke of Pelagius and the answer of the Catholyck Fathers we haue sent vnto thy holynes to be adiudged The same lykewise This infallibility is ascrybed to the assistance of the holy Ghost S. Aug. doth witnes in his epist 92. 95. for we doe not ascrybe this infallibilitie to the Byshopes and Fathers gathered togeathe in the counsell for that they are many or learned men but to the promise of the assistance of the holy Ghost as Matth. 18. v. 20. 28. v. 66. Which assistance of the holy Spirit we belieue you not to haue in your synodes wherin lyke manner men are foūd This holy Ghost no Heretycks are assisted with where also is found men and noe Angels The Protestant counsels are left without determination and worse then they be good Luther sets at nought all counsels and condemnes the Canons of Nyce and not Angels neyther Prophets nor Euangelistes but very men with whome the spirit of dissention makes matters indeterminate and without conclusion amongst you And moreouer wherefore giues your Bretheren such obedience and are in subiection vnto your pseudo Byshops as to a spirituall and higher power and accept of their decrees seing they are lyke our Catholicke Byshops in name mortall men whose lyues are knowne to all men Therefore we haue attributed infallibility of the counsels to the assistance of Gods holy spirit and not to man which if Luther in his booke of counsels would haue behoulden with a pure eye would not haue broken out in that bitternes to accurse and blaspheme the counsels with which he sets at nought the Canones of that holy counsel of Nyce which in all former tymes hath been esteemed soe venerable in the Church of God tearming all the articles of this counsell to be but haye stubble and strawe Kemnitius will examine the counsell of Trent after his spirit To augment this did not Kemnitius a Lutherā a prophane temerous fellowe wryte the examen of the counsell of Trent in which was so many learned men and all are tryed and examined of him In which doing they not only violate and transgresse the diuyne law of God which law commaundes all men to seek the knowledge of the law of the mouth of the Priestes Hereticks trāsgresse the law of God and imperiall ordinances of man as Mal. 2. but also the humane law of Martian the Emperour which commaundes
THE PROTESTANTS THEOLOGIE CONTAINING The true solutions and groundes of Religion this day mainteyned and intreated betwixt the PROTESTANTS AND CATHOLICKS WRITEN By the R. F. F. VVilliame Patersoune Religious Priest Conuentuall of Antwerpe Preacher of Gods word And Vicar Generall of the holy Order of S. AVGVSTIN Through the Kingdome of Scotland THE I. PART The seech you bretheren marked them diligently who cause Schisme and Heresie contraire to the doctrine which you haue learned and auoyde them for they that are such serue not our Lord Iesus Christ but there owne 〈◊〉 and with feare speach and flatery deceaue the hartes of the simple AD ROMANOS 16. IMPRINTED With Licence Anno M.DC.XX APPROBATIO LIBRVM Hunc vulgari lingua inscriptum THE PROTESTANTS THEOLOGIE à R. P. F. Guilielmo Patersonio Scoto Sacri or ●inis Eremitarum S. Augustini Presh-Amu●●p Professo per Scot●●m ci●●●●m Sancti Ordinis Vicario Generals conscriptum a me visum examena●um nihil reperi Catholicae fidei aut bo●is moribus contrarium contine●e Verumetiam valdè ●tilem apprimc idoneum su●e ad confutationem siue conuersionem Haereticorum sentio Ideoque prelo ac luce dignum iudico Quod testor manu propria Mechliniae die decimo quinto Aprilis 1620. Thomas Wortingtonus Prot. Apost S. Theologiae Doctor PRAEMISSA Debita informatione super contentis in hoc libro cui titulus THE PROTESTANTS THEOLOGIE auctore R. P. F. Guilielmo Patersonio Scoto Ordinis Eremitarum S. Augustin Presb c. cundem praelo dignum censui Mechliniae 9. Maij. 1620. Petrus vanden Wicle S. Th. Licent Metropolit Ecclesiae Mechliniensis Archidiaconus Librorum Censor EGO F. Ioanes Aughemius Fratrum Eremitar Ordinis S. Augustini per Belgium Prior Prouincialis vt liber vulgars lingua inscriptus THE PROTESTANTS THEOLOGIE à R. P. F. Guilielmo Patersonio Ordinis S. Augustini Sacerdote compositus a diuersis visus examinatus in lucem edatur permitto facultateni concedo In quorum fidem has nostras manu nostra subscriptas figillo munitas dedi Gandaui in nostro S. Augustini Monasterio 12. Octob. 1620. Fr. Ioannes Aughemius Prouincialis TO THE MOST HONORABLE AND POTENT LORD L. ARCHBALD CAMBEL BARRON Of Cowhill and Lochaw Sheriffe of Tarbet and Argyll Lord Hyghe Iustice of Scotlād Lord of Cambell Lorne and Kintyre Great Master of his Ma ●ies House Lieutenant of Tarbet and Argyll Earle of Argyll and one of his Maiesties secret Counsell of Scotland F. W. P. A. Wishes all Happines with increase of Honour and all good fourtune IN auncient tymes passed MOST HONORABLE LORD it hath been the coustume as witnesses Flau. Veg. in Prol. lib. de re milit To dedicat present Books vnto Princes and great men the reason is saith he forsomuch as any thing is not well begūne except first vnder God Princes and noble men fauour protect and commend it neyther doe any thing beseeme Princes and noble men better thē books who as they are the heades and Gouernours of others it agreeth with reason if it were possible that they should know all things because that as in the head consist the senses which gouerne ruell the whole body euen so in lyke maner Princes Potētates who are the heades Gouernours of families other people should be seen in all sciēces and vertues for the gouerning of others For if the Planetes which guyde rule this inferior world are replenished with greater influence of light and vertue then the other starres in the firmamēt euen so are Princes and Nobles the planetes gouernours of this world more illuminated with greater light of wisdome knowledg and power for the gouerning of others that by the influēce of wisdome knowledg in thē wherwith they are replenished of God they might ruell and guyd others for as Cyrus sayth he is not worthy of any dignity and authority that is not better then others if Aristole met●● saith that all men desyres naturally to know this naturall disposition dependes on reason it followes that Princes and Noble men should haue this knowledg in thē perfect for that which all mē naturally desyres to know the knowledg therof is more proper specially to be in Noble Men and Princes And therefore seing your L. is one of these Princes Noble men in whom as in a planet consists the gouerning and rulling of a most auncient family and surename of Cambell with the authority and dominion ouer the sherifdomes of Argyll and Tarbet with the preeminent dignity honour power of an Earle in the auncient kingdome of Scotland Whose wisdome vertue and nobility hath been the occasion to present vnto your L. these my labours lieuing vnder hope so to esteeme of them as well becometh your L. Honour wisdome vnderstāding for it is not vnknown to all the nation the estate quality of the Earles of Argyll to haue been prudent wyse noble and liberall maintayners of Vertu protectors and commenders of the same whose fame is immortall to report the verity it cannot be denyed but that the Earles of Argyll are amongst the principall Noble men in the land equall in estat in antiquity very auncient in linage succession without interruption of Mariadge descēded of most Noble progenitors very honourable in fame vnspoted in loyalty fidel to there Prince true to there country honest in conuersatiō Catholickes in profession friendly to there genealogie loueing to their nythbours liberal to their seruants fearefull and mercifull to their enemies boūtifull to the poore charitable to strangers discret honest amiable to all persons the renowne of them is for euer what vertue could be in humane nature that was not manifested approued in thē And as for wordly prefermentes to whom were they inferiour vnto which preeminent dignity honour and authority your L. iu. e succeeds inioyes Is not your L with the principal Earles equall in nothing inferour Is there any almost hygher honours and more excellent or famous the● to be one of his Ma ●●es Counsellers familiars great Cōmander of his Ma ●●es house Sheriffe and Lieutenant of two ample Sherifdomes hvghe Lord iustice of Scotland in Parlaments also to beare the sword of honour as for preuiledges and iurisdictiō no Prince or Noble in Scotland is cōparable And for dominions terretories Castels and palaces pastures hunting fowling fishings more rightly your L. may be called a litle Regulas then a subiect And therfore in respect of your L. antecessors their progeny vnto whom your L. hath succeeded being a branche of the same stocke indewed with them in all naturall giftes full of morall vertues with equallitie of estat It must follow with reason to liue and die with thē in the true religiō in the true worship of Christ and to approue your L. self to be the true issue of such loyal parēts a myrror to others in tymes to come that who already hath knowne your
cōpelled to swear him supream iudg in all ecclesiasticall causes as well as in temporall causes Would to God that his Maiesties eyes were illuminated and that God would giue his maiestie a vvyse hart that deeply he might consider how his maiesties good nature vvisdome learning and heauenly gyftes The office of a King is with great vexatiō His maiesties good nature is euill abused by priuat men for their own particular with the counsell of perticular men is abused laying on his Maiesties shoulders such a heauy burden which his Maiestie is not able to vndergoe For if the temporall gouernement and office of a King be excellent notwithstanding that office is so intricated with inumerable cares and disquietnes of body and mynd by the account making to the lyuing God with vvhom there is no acception of persones who giues to euery man according to his workes if in a Kingdome be great enormityes wrongs which are to be corrected amended by the authority of the Prince yet notwithstanding this dignity is intricated for peace and quietnes in his country with vexation of his body disquietnes of mynd heauines of soule anxiety of spirit with solicitude and care night and day and with fear with mand debate without which euidently declare the greatnes of the charge what I pray thee gentle Reader is the charge of the Church of God and the gouernment of the soules of men in comparison of the common estate Is it lesse in effect do not murther fyre robbery witchcraft sodomy buggery theift c. and these and such lyke vexe and molest the wyselt Prince that euer was or shal be to redresse and mend in haste Lykwyse vvhat enormities are in the Church of God No charge more chargable then the charge of soules vvhat leudnesse and wickednesse in the lyues of men vvhat heresie in religion what erroneous opinions what profession of Mahematisme what inclination to Paganisme what Atheisme in conuersation Is this charge easily performed As for the proofe of the temporall gouernment I hope his Maiesty hath sufficient experience vvhill his Maiesty reygned King in Scotland vvhat day lie complaintes of wrongs vvhat iniquity vvas done in the land to no small griefe and vexation of his Maiesties mynd and body And as for the proofe since his Maiesty hath bene King of great Brittany and head of the Church the Oath sworne to his Maiesty to be supreame iudge in all ecclesiasticall causes vvhat Heresies in religion is falne out in Ingland and Scotland vvhat sectes what opinions betwixt the Protestants and Puritans vvith vvhat disquietnes of mynd hath his Maiestie laboured to accord and agree religion amongst them what muny ficēcy What paynes without be efi● hath us maiesty vsed to comp●se the er●ticks among themselues A head ought to be obeyed and giftes had h s Maiesty bestowed on the mynisteres to accord them to h s Maiesties will And pitiarrs and emulat on s remaines yet If his Maiestie be head why is he not obeyed if obedience how is ●here controuersie and sectes should not the members be obedient to the head and all the members dispose their actions to the wit and gouernment of the head that the head and the mēbers may do one thing conformably for wher the head hath his pure vigent power the mēbres should follow his will and conforme their actiōs to his iudgment Therefore all the Sectaries as the Caluinistes Brunistes Puritaues Protestantes should conforme themselues to the vnity of the head his iudgment And yet notvvithstanding all these sectes allovve and condiscende his Maiesty to be head of the Church All the sects in Britane allowe the king for head and yet they will lyue in their owne opiniō wherby they would make the King a monster and yet they themselues wil be disordered mebers and beleeue their owne erroneous opinions in erecting Altare against Altare in making Schisme and Heresy But more lyckly that they would make and absurdly belieue his Maiesty to be some monster for whilst they acknowledge his Maiestie head of the Church vvhat is this confession els but that they make his Maiestie head of ech heresie and of all dogmaticall doctrine which is maintained permitted or professed in the land and in his maiesties dominions It importes no small charge vnto his Maiesties soule and body to presume and clame to him Presumption a great synne is not left vnpunished the primacy of the Church and her authority which appertayn not to lay-men of whatsoeuer quality they be of for the history of Achaz and others punished for their presumption is doctrine sufficient to all men of whatsoeuer condition not to presume in the office of the Church for Priest and Kings are of sundrie povvers and distinct preheminence for Kings haue power of the body Priests are ouer the soule Kings haue the sword and Priests the Keyes Diuerse are the conditiōs of Kings and Priests Kings are called nurses but Priests are called parentes Kings are to hear and Priests are to teach Kings at the voyce of the Church are to be obedient and not to cōmaund but Priestes are Pastors of the Church and the cheif members of it to whom Kings should be obedient as vnto Christ As they are in dignity discrepant so are they in offices and lyckewyse are discrepant in charge the one ouer the body and the other ouer the soule the one caryeth the temporall sword and the other the spirituall What glory can his Maiesty reape by this spirituall gouernmēt in claming it To be head of the Church the King can get no honour but rather dishonour And what ignominy hereafter may blot his Maiesties fame and eternallize his name for an other presuptuous Achaz which Ipray God auert from his Maiesty and that God of his diuyne goodnes vvould grant him an vnderstading hart to execute the office of a King dutifully and leaue vnto Priestes what belongeth to Priests so shall his Maiesty eternallize his fame name with the rest of his Maiesties Catholyck progenitores As concerning that the Protestants say the Pope is Antichrist That the Pope is Antichrist it agreeth nether with the law of God nor morall reason their assertion standes neyther with the law of God nor with naturall reason For Antichrist doth properly signify an aduersary and an enemy to Christ As S. Aug. sayes with all kynd of malyce and hatred and as Luc̄ifer was the Captayne and first of all cursed rebelles and for that was named Sathan that is to say an aduersary euen so is Antichrist named by thss proper name as an euemy to Christ and as a chief captayne of all rebellious and accursed Christians For as God of his goodnes was not content to send his Prophets Priests to teach and guyde men to lyfe eternall but at least sent his owne sonne in mans-flesh thereby to work more effectually our saluation Lykewyse on the otherside Sathan shall procure what lyeth
Hier. de scrip Eccl in Pet. sayes that Peter after the Byshoprick of the Church of Antioch and the preaching of the dispersed of them who had belieued of the circumcision in Pontus Gallatia Cappadocia Asia and Bithinia In the second yeare of the Emperour Claudius he went to Rome He came to Rome in the second yeare of Claudius to expunge Simon Magus there twenty-fyue-yeares kept the cathedral Priesthood vnto the last yeare of Nero. Now that Peter came to Rome was by prouidence of God that he might saue his flock from the raging fury of Simō Magus the captayn of all Hereticks as Euseb sayth lib 2. cap. 13.14.15 who was worshipped for a God at Rome whom by his prayers The cause why Peter came to rome was to saue Christs flock from heresy he caused the Diuell who carried him in the ayre who would imitat Christes ascention to let him fall who brake all his bones by that fall whereupon his death shortly insued after But Nero who tooke delyke in his Sorcery being sore offended with S. Peter for this cause sought by all meanes his apprehension and distr●ction as witnes Egesipp lib. 3. cap. 2. At what tyme the Christians being very lothe to be depriued of so good a Pastor with much intreating and many teares prayed him to remoue a litle out of the way at whose request although vnwilling he began to take his journey out of the city but when he came to the port he sawe Christ coming towards him whō he worshiped sayd Lord whether goest thow who answered I go to Rome to be crucifyed againe Peter vnderstanding thereby Christ appeareth in the way to S. Peter and telles him that he was going to rome to be crucified againe as S. Ambros epist 32. lib. 5. That Christ would suffer in him at Rome who suffers in euery one of his Sainctes not by payne of body but by compassion of pity vpon this vision Peter returned and being taken was put to death on the crosse with his head downward So that as Egesipp lib. 3. cap. 2. sayes Christ himself appointed Rome to be the place wher he should rest Lykewise Orig. Tom. 3 com in gen Peter at last whyl he remained at Rome is made a lyk to the suffering of our Lord with his head downward for so he desyred to suffer Also Eus lib. 2. cap. 5. alledgeth Dionysius the corinthian who liued in the hundrith yeare after the death of the Apostle Dionisius the corinthians report of S. Peter and reportes him to haue sayd when I was in this towne of Rome sayes he both Peter and Paul togeather teaching at one tyme were crowned with Martyrdome Lykewise for the verification of the same purpose Tertul. writeth Haeret. H●pp apud pruden in peristeph Cyp. de vnit Eccl. Arnob. aduers gent. Bar. ann tom 1. anno Christi 44. num 25. By which testimonies we learne that Christ had a special regard that Peter and his fellow Apostle Paul might die at Rome for diuerse causes alleadged of the Fathers Peter and Paul suffering was for their greater glory The causes of the two Apostles suffering a● Rome And first as S. Aug de sanctis sermon 27. was for the glory of the Apostles that Rome might not lack eyther of thē a● dear bretheren Secondly for the distruction of superstition Aug. ibid. That where the head of superstition was there might be the head of holynes where the Prince of the gentiles dwelt there the Princes of the Church might be Thirdly for the honour of the west Church for as S. Aug. ibib sayes VVher as our Lord hath made the cast partes glorious with his owne passion he ●ouchsased in his stead that it might be no lesse to giue light to the west partes by the blood of his Apostles And albeit out Lords passion suffiseth vs for our saluation yet their martyr-dome also hath done vs good for an example Fourthly for the spreading abroad of the holy euangely as sayes Leo serm de nat Pet. Paul That the light of the truth VVhich was reuealed for the saluation of all nations might spread it self more effectually from the very head throughout the whole body Now therefore seing God hath vsed the city of Rome as a most speciall meane to enlarge and spread his faith through all the world it came to pase also that the same city as Leo sayes ibid. Is made the head of the world through the holy-see of S. Peter that it may rule more lardgely by Gods religion then by earthely dominion OBIECTION PAul writting to the Romans salutes not Peter neyther the writters of the tyme whem he come to Rome agree amongst themselses but disagree and vary Ergo Peter was neuer at Rome ANSVVER Certayne reasons why Peter was not alwayes at Rome THe reason of the not finding Peter at Rome or that by salutation he is not mentioned in S. Pauls epistle is his frequent peregrination in diuerse prouinces for the preaching of the faith by which reason it was a cause sufficient to writers to vary of the tyme of his comming to Rome yet notwithstāding it followeth not to conclude that he was not in Rome except some would conclude by the lyk argument that Christ hath not suffered because that all writers doe not agree amongst themselues of the tyme. For S. Ignatius S. Iohns disciple writting to the Trallianes doth affirme Christ to haue preached in the thirthy three-yeare of his age If we belieue the variety of wryrers we may doubt of Christs sufferings Some other cōtendes Christ to be liuing and to haue preached in the 40. and 46. yeares of his age And therefore because this variety is amongst the wryters doth it follow that Christ hath not suffered or that he was neuer in Ierusalem neyther to haue been crucifyed in Golgotha And consequently if they doubt of S. Peters being in Rome euen so also may they iustly doubt Christ not to haue been in Ierusalem neyther suffered in Golgotha Therefore for conclusion it is not to be doubted but that S. Luke would haue made mention of their saluting one another and the tyme of his comming to Rome and of the apparition of Christ to S. Peter as he writ the appearing of Christ to S. Paul if he had gone forward in his history of the actes of the Apostles but seing he continued not his narration vntill the death of S. Peter and S. Paul we must needes credit these faithfull ancient wryters who were neerer the tyme of the Apostles then your negatiue denyall without any warrant but euer denying as men without reason with clamorous voyces lyk frogges in the pudle in the nyght tyme euer crying babling nothing prouing QVESTIO X. Of Ioane the eight Pope a woman VVHerefore doe the Papists euer affirme and say the Pope to receaue the Primacy of the whole Church from Christ immediatly who of the Church by lawfull way is receaued in the chayr of
of God lykewyse that Church which was after Christ hath neuer fayled or might fayle according to that stait in which it was instituted of himself It is euidēt by testimony of holy Scripture in which Christ kingdomes is fortold to be eternall as psal 47 v. 9. Is sayd as we haue hard so we haue we seen in the city of our God and God hath established it for euer Which psalme is spoken altogeather of the Church and her perpetuity lykewyse her visibility is also mētioned whyl the prophet sayes as we haue hard and seene therefore it is not obscurly designed or inuisible Also Dan. 2. v. 44. sayes That in the dayes of those Kings the God of Heauen shall set vp a Kingdome which shall neuer be distroyed and this Kingdome shall not be giuen to another people but it shall break and distroy all these Kingdomes and it shall stand for euer Moreouer S. Matth. 16. v. 18. sayes That the gates of Hell shall not preuayle against her for as there is a visible head there must be a visible body and seing Christ was seen in earth did conuerse with men shall not his body and members therof also be visible if the foundamēt be visible it behoweth also the house to be visible and seing the Apostles and prophets are foundament of his Church Ephes 2. who can deny the building not to be visible Lykewyse our coniunction with Christ is not only spirituall but also is bodily that we may be bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh the Apostle calleth it a great Sacraments Eph. 5. And seing by Sacramentes we are vnited and knowne togeather which are visible things and therfore appertayne to a visible body which is his Church also which hath a visible head that the Church of God may euer appeare visible wherupon Chrysest Tom. 5. orat de non rontemnend Eccles What is more stronger then the Church of God the barbarous may pull downe the walles but the infernall diuels cannot ouercome it When she is battered she is victor and when she is inuaded with deceipt ouercommeth thus he And S. Bernard Serm. 79. neyther by the verbositie of Philosophers neyther cauillations of heretyckes neyther by the sword of the persecutors might the Church at any tyme be separat from the loue of God thus he Moreouer it is sayd Eph. 4. v. 11. He gane some to be Apostles and some Prophets some Euangelistes and some Pastors and ●eachers for the ●●summation of the Saincts for the worke of the ministery and for the edification of the body of Christ whyll we all meer togeather in the vnity of faith and in knowledge of the sone of God vnto a perfyt man and vnto the measur of the age of the fulnes of Christ In which words the Apostle rehearsing these offices Apostles Pastors and Doctors to abyd in the Church to the end of the world declares the Church to be visible which no ways cā be vnderstood of an inuisible church by reason that there is no such offices that Moreouer it implicates a contradition the visible Church sometyme to haue fayled and the inuisible to remayne for somuch as the wonders of the world are noted partly by Scripture as the deludge Gen. 6 4 Reg 17 Matth. 25. the going back of the sonne the sonne mone to haue lost their light and darkenesse to haue ouer shaddowed the whole face of the earth at the death of Christ Lykwyse Historiographers and Chronologies make mention of erthquakes fyre tempestes pestilence and such lyke prodigious things which are registred and are extant in euery mans hand and yet what tyme the Church fayled and became inuisible there is no Scripture no chronologie no witnes euer to be found but only clamorous mens voyces to say it once it was visible this they graunt but how in fayled it is improbable For if the visible Church hath fayled and the inuisible remaine and was not seene there followe to wyld absurdities for eyther she professed her fayth and yelded not to the persecutions of the Gentills or Heceticks and in so doing it followeth that she was visible as the primitue Church in the tyme of the Apostles and Martyres in tyme of persecutors for in profession suffering sho appeared and was a spectacle to the world and contrary wise if she professed not her sayth but lurked and retayned it inwardly in the hart and outwardly by dissimulation accommodated hirself to the tyme in following of false worship as the Helchesi●nes did as witnes Euse lib. 6. cap. 31. In so doing sho cannot be accounted the true Church of Christ For Christ sayes Matth. 10. ● 33 VVho shall deny me before men him shall I deny before my Father in Heauen Therefore the Church in vigor and subsistance cannot want a signe of visibility Morouer the Church contayning alswell the vniuersality of faithfull as of Byshops absolutely cannot err in matters of fayth which vniuersally eyther are to be belieued of fayth or propounded vnto vs to be done for good manners whether expressely they be found in the Scripture or noe because the Church is gouerned of Christ the head as S. Paul sayes Ephes 1. u 22. He hath giuen him to be head of all the Church which is his body And therefore if sho may err it redounds vnto Christ which according to the verity it self no manner of way may fall because God is true and because the Church is the pillar and foundament of verity 1. Tim. 3 v. 15. Therefore sho cannot err lykewyse Christ promissed to his Apostles and to the whole Church The spirit of verity to abyd with hir for euer and to leade hir in all verity S Ioan. 14. 16. It is not to be vnderstood of simple verity because the Scripture speakes generally of all verity descrybing the holy spirit to teach the Church and sho to be a pillar of verity that in nothing sho should err otherwayes if the Church may erre in teachings things necessary to saluation no man shall know wher the verity is and the holy Ghost shall be found the lyar For haue not all the Fathers in whatsoeuer question and controuersie of fayth fled to the church as vnto the ancher of verity They would neuer haue taken this refuge if they thought that the Church might erre To this effect S. Aug. lib. 1. contra Cresc c. 33. sayth the verity of the Scriptures is kept of vs seing we doe that thing which hath pleased the vniuersall Church the which doth commend the authority of the selfe Scripture forsomuch the holy Scripture may deceaue none but whosoeuer hath feared to be deceaued by obscurity of any question let him consult with the Church which without any ambigu●ty doth demonstrate and shaw the holy Scripture Againe Epist 118. To dispute against that thing sayes he which the vniuersall Church belieues it is most insolent madnes Againe in psal 57. In the bowells of the Church sayes he veritie remaynes