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A41787 A religious contest, or A brief account of a disputation holden at Blyton in the county of Lincoln between Mr. William Fort minister of the perochial congregation at Blyton on the one part, and Thomas Grantham, servant to the baptised churches on the other part : whereunto is added Brief animadversions upon Dr. Stilling-fleet his digressions about infant baptism in his book intituled, A rational account of the Protestant religion, &c., in both which are shewed that the generality of the nations now professing Christianity are as yet unbaptised into Christ : 1. Because their sprinkling and crossing the fore-head is not the right way of baptising, 2. Because infants ought not to be baptised. Grantham, Thomas, 1634-1692. 1674 (1674) Wing G1544; ESTC R39430 28,329 42

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d●th_v not_o show_v that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v ergo_fw-la infant_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v mr._n fort._n holy_a scripture_n do_v show_v that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v thomas_n grantham_n if_o holy_a scripture_n do_v show_v that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v than_o some_o body_n can_v show_v where_o it_o may_v be_v find_v but_o no_o body_n can_v show_v we_o where_o such_o a_o scripture_n may_v be_v find_v ergo_fw-la holy_a scripture_n do_v not_o show_v that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v mr._n fort._n i_o can_v show_v where_o it_o may_v be_v find_v and_o i_o will_v prove_v that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v from_o mat._n 28_o 19_o t._n grantham_n sir_n you_o mistake_v your_o place_n for_o you_o be_v not_o now_o to_o prove_v but_o to_o answer_v i_o nor_o do_v the_o text_n you_o mention_v speak_v of_o infant_n baptism_n at_o all_o mr._n fort._n the_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d make_v disciple_n in_o all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o but_o infant_n be_v part_n of_o the_o nation_n that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v t._n grantham_n you_o do_v violate_v the_o law_n of_o dispute_v for_o be_v my_o respondent_fw-la you_o ought_v not_o to_o argue_v now_o for_o the_o text_n it_o be_v read_v thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n now_o for_o the_o explication_n of_o the_o verb_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o refer_v you_o to_o john_n the_o 4_o 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d here_o disciple_n be_v make_v such_o by_o actual_a teach_n ergo_fw-la infant_n can_v be_v make_v disciple_n according_a to_o mat._n 28._o 19_o mr._n fort._n i_o deny_v that_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o understand_v a_o actual_a teach_n by_o the_o w●rd_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d t._n g._n the_o very_a read_n of_o the_o text_n give_v it_o against_o you_o for_o it_o say_v go_v teach_v all_o nation_n ●_z a_o act_n to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o apostle_n mr._n fort._n i_o tell_v you_o infant_n of_o believer_n be_v disciple_n and_o need_v no_o act_n to_o make_v they_o so_o t._n g._n that_o can_v be_v they_o must_v be_v make_v disciple_n either_o by_o god_n or_o man_n before_o they_o can_v be_v disciple_n however_o they_o can_v be_v disciple_n according_a to_o mat._n 28._o because_o that_o be_v interpret_v by_o yourself_o to_o make_v disciple_n viz_o by_o the_o apostle_n mr._n fort._n but_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n to_o understand_v a_o actual_a teach_n of_o all_o that_o be_v to_o be_v make_v disciple_n t._n grantham_n it_o can_v have_v no_o other_o signification_n as_o i_o shall_v show_v by_o your_o own_o critic_n who_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d est_fw-la disco_fw-la to_o learn_v or_o get_v knowledge_n and_o in_o the_o hebrew_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d come_v of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d didict_n and_o be_v render_v dicens_fw-la ab_fw-la alio_fw-la which_o agree_v with_o the_o syriack_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o arab._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o full_o accord_v with_o mark_n 16._o 16._o go_v preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o every_o creature_n and_o hence_o i_o argue_v if_o those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v according_a to_o mat._n 28._o 19_o must_n first_o be_v make_v by_o actual_a teach_n or_o learn_v from_o another_o than_o no_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v according_a to_o this_o text_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a ergo_fw-la so_o be_v the_o latter_a mr._n fort._n i_o will_v prove_v that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v as_o be_v disciple_n from_o act_n 15._o why_o tempt_v you_o god_n to_o put_v a_o yoke_n upon_o the_o neck_n of_o the_o disciple_n this_o be_v speak_v of_o infant_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v