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There can be no cause to make a schisme or separation from the whole Church for the whole Church cannot universally erre in faith for if it could it would cease to be holy neither can all the members of the militant Church erre either in the whole or an Article of faith if they could there could be no union betwixt the head and members and so no body no Church The Church of the Elect is in the Church of them that are called and the invisible Church in the visible or else the invisible Church is tyed to no duty of Christianity for all such duties are required of the Church and performed as 't is visible and consequently if the whole Church of the Elect cannot erre in fundamentalls the whole visible Church cannot erre in which the Elect is 'T is manifest out of Saint Austin ipsa est Ecclesia quae intra sagenam dominicam cum malis piscibus natat grana sunt inter illam paleam quand● area cum videretur tota palea putabatur There are bad fish in the net of the Lord from which there must be ever a separation in heart and manners but a corporall separation must be expected at the sea-shore in the end of the world And as the spirit of a man doth not quicken any member of the body but as it is united to it so neither doth the Spirit of God any member of the Church but being united in the bond of peace Sect. 73. I have weakened the lights of my body to introduce knowledge by by these windowes of my soule lost my selfe to finde others to magnifie my age I will not boast I have outlived Emperours Popes If he lives only long who lives well I am the shortest liver I have served twice Jacobs time to a more deceitfull Master then Laban an impious world young in years old in folly a Labyrinth riddle bubble nothing The reward of Jacobs servitude was blessed mine cursed could produce only spotted actions checquer'd with the guilt of my own black imaginations who have been carried about with the air of my own phancy that I might not be transported with the wind of every phanaticks error discompos'd my fortune to settle my mind Amicus Plato amicus Socrates sed Magis am●ca veritas If truth be not more my friend then any one my memory can challenge a familiar acquaintance with I may modestly presume my selfe destitute of any while I have moved upon quick-silver and whe●l'd upon the incertainties of giddy chance a Polypire Ephorine and Philaetic become all with all not that I might gain others with the Apostle or gain of others wi●h the world but gain my selfe And though this itch of my curiosity may produce bad blood by exasperating malignant humours yet I shall skin my own sores over by so good a conversation and by no rash exposures of aliene sores to the ayre I shall endanger the wranckling of any into male-content I shall not relinquish my part in our elder Brothers legacy the love that Christ bequeath'd us for the greatest of Mundan inheritances for if my barns were full my soul could not take her ease should I disease my brother I might fear with a Thou fool hac nocte in the night of error illuminated by no beam of Gods grace and mercy from a darker action to be cast into a darker dungeon for having no mercy on him for whom the light in darknesse rose I would snatch a Brother out of the fire with fear and trembling and not commit to flames with rigour and malice The Spanish devotion shall prescribe no rule to mine who hang'd up thirteen Indians to the honour of Christ and his twelve Apostles Sect. 74. I am not of the Tyrants minde oderint dum metuant as I would incurre no mans hate so I would lend an occasion to no mans fear since invention witty in cruelty should not wrack a confession that may prejudice another I would not endanger a Priests life to save mine own Bellum cum vitiis Pax cum hominibus is my motto I hate no Sect but pray for all that like Sampsons Foxes divided by the heads they may not be tyed together by the tails in the country they reside to raise a combustion or Snake-like return a sting for entertainment and can wonder that the twilight of nature and noctiluce of reason in Heathens should out-shine the Sun-beams of the Gospell in Christians while History presents us with an Aristodes a Phocion and Themistcoles who though their bodies suffered by an Ostracism would not exile out of their minds that piety which was due even to an ingratefull Country One asked What he would wish to his country for their ingratitude answered Never to want an Aristides The second commanded his sons to forget their Fathers injuries and the third dyed rather then he would revenge his own and could wish the Athenian Legislator might even prescribe a Law to Christians who for blindnesse returned light who instead of retaliating the losse of an eye administred light to the Author by opening the eyes of his understanding Sect. 75. I would convince by reason make no conviction by Law make a confiscation of error not goods though I seek not their goods but the good of their souls Persecution is a seeds-time of error as well as of truth The Norfolk Arian could laugh at the stake and though none can dye well who live not so no one can live so ill as cannot dye desperately The old Roman humour of braving death sleeps not with Paganisme Rome hath still her Scaevola's dare court the flames and have a hand in every combustion no part of the earth can make a breach for which they can want a Curtius who to make it up will not ingulph himselfe in misery Some with Augustus can die in a complement more with Tiberius in dissimilation No Priest but Galba-like will offer his neck with a feri si ere sit populi Romani while with Vespasian they can smile with an ut puto Deus fio A Garnet may be Sainted even for a powder plot And some resembling Otho's friends wil die for society while they like him murder themselves under pretence of being publick victims Sect. 76. I would bring tears to quench rather then fewell to the flames not cause others to be disembowelled but could even disbowell my selfe by an inviscerate dilection Show excrementatam liquidiora tam crassiora non solùm pectoris sed religionis anatomiam To reclaim these Traitors to reason who believe heaven can side with factions and omniscience cannot discover these disguises of charity He who commands us to let our light so shine before men that they may glorifie our heavenly Father commands us not to light men for his glory And though he whom we must pattern was a light in darknesse in usum nocturni luminis Nero like non proponit cremandos Christianos These fires may show hell flames but to show a way
if it be confirmed by the Pope it cannot be confirm'd till finish'd if finish'd it hath err'd or not err'd if err'd the Pope ought not to confirm falshood if not err'd it was truth before he confirm'd it and at best his assent is but signum pro causa or a Councell must be either infallible by the means or the prophetick part the conclusion the means humane learning fallible meanes may have fallible effects or if by the conclusion the spirit makes no use of meanes they must either make means uselesse or open a gap for Enthusiasts to ruffle the Church Where two or three are conven'd Christ is in the midst of them to concede what he shall think fit for them not they fit for themselves a generall Councell may bee supposed not to erre led by the spirit of truth in Scripture and not presuming to lead both spirit and Scripture no Father having to deal with Hereticks intitled Councels infallible The letters of Bishops according to Saint Austine may bee disputed by more learn'd Bishops nationall Councells by plenary and even plenary may be amended the former by the later that onely which is found in Scripture may be neither doubted nor disputed The comforter shall abide with them and lead them into all truth viz. the Holy Ghost that lead the Catholick Church not into all curious truths in or about the faith but all truth necessary to salvation in which the Catholike Church can't erre for if it could erre it could not bee holy Sect. 67. Now let us peruse a little of the Elixir of the Fathers which some Pontificians sure rightly understood would turn al into Catholike Gold in which we may believe them but never that it is able to convert one intelligent man to be a Papist Illa Ecclesia quae fuit omnium gentium jam non est periit apostavit hoc dicunt qui in illa non sunt O impudentem vocem illa non est quia tu in illa non es vide ne tu ideo non sis nam illa erit etiamsi tu non sis O vocem abominabilem detestabilem c. hanc praevidit spiritus Dei ecce ego vobiscum sum usque ad Consuminationem seculi Sed forte ista civitas quae mundum tenuit universum aliquando evertetur absit Deus enim fundavit in aeternum si Deus fundavit in aeternum quid times ne cadat Portae inferorum non praevalebunt contra eam quod si non cred●s verbo ipsis operibus crede Multo facil●us m●hi persuaderem Christo non esse credendum quam de illo quidquam nisi ab his per quos credidissem esse credendum Deus posu●t in sole tabernaculum suum qui contra Lucernam in candelabro positam oculos claudunt quid amplius dicturus sum quam caecos esse Quomodo impur●ss●me Diabole Ecclesiam te posse putas de●jcere adulterari non potest● sponsa Christi incorrupta est Pudica est domum unam novit unius cubiculi Sanctitatem casto pudore custodit Hoc Ecclesiae proprium est ut tum vincat cum laeditur tum intelligatur cum arguitur tum obtineat cum de seritur Haec ergo navis Ecclesia est quae si quotidie saeculum istud tanquam aliquod pelagus fortiter infestum nunquam elid●tur ad saxum nunquam mergitur ad profundum super petram fundata Ecclesia nullâ tempestate Concutitur nullo turbine ventisque subruitur Quorsum haec what a flood of Fathers is here without a drop of reason who ever deny'd God would have a Church spread ore the face of the Earth yet this implies that the Roman is only Catholick a Monopoly of heaven and mercy by usurpation of the name or because the Rivers of life shall not cease while time flowes to stream in the Citty of God his holy Catholick Church they lose their current if they stream not in the channells of Romish phancies Who would not with Saint Austin rather believe nothing of Christ then the Gospell of Peter Bartholomew Nicodemus the Acts of Paul and Tecla c. ridiculous figments of giddy heresie where the Devill in an Angell of lights shape would have brought darknesse in fashion this implies not sure we must not believe the true Gospell without it is ma●gin'd with Pontifician notes and fenc'd with profit-angling baits of phanatick interpreters Gods Tabernacle is in the Sun and he hath a Church like the Sun shining with light and eminent in vertues who see not this light in a candlestick or so great a mountain as Gods Church Christianity more eminent then all other Religions with the Father I could call them no lesse then blind I should think them hallucinate could not see through the disfigurements of truth and veils of ceremonies a face of Religion in the Romish Church but desperately blind could see no other and after he had received the phantasticall garb would shut his eyes and think it immodesty to view poor truth naked I may believe with Saint Cyprian the Devill cann't deject the spouse who leaves not Christs bed to lie with Adonis or exchanges Christianity for Paganism the joyes of his Spirit for the salt waters of Mundan complacencies or the pure stream● of life for polluted puddles of phanatick interpretations I can assent to Saint Hilary Persecution is the Churches seed to Saint Ambrose the Church is a Ship secure in storms to Saint Hierom a Rock which windes nor waves move Yet believe these sayings have no other relation to the Roman Church then the Roman hath relation to the Catholick Church by being part of the whole body of Christianity of which Christ is the head Sect. 68. Papists while they bring in the Fathers in vizards may terrifie some weak ones but the vizards once pluckt off from the faces of the Fathers the children whom they have afrighted dare play with them and wise men conclude the cause not honest which needs a disguise since the confines of truth is to be naked Ignatius called the Roman Church 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 most chast and Metropolis of the Region of the Romans and wishes those things may be firm which they teach May the Roman Church be firme to what it then taught and then may all firmly believe what she teaches and though not in a power 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which Ignatius was ignorant of but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which he mentions be President Polycarp communicated with the Roman Church though disagreed about Easter was content to passe over rather a trifling formality then renounce his charity who instructs us nothing of their Roman power may instruct us in the power of Godlinesse not to relinquish Christian communion for triviall observances Irenaeus praises the Roman faith succeeding with Episcopacy yet oppugns Victor sure he dream'd not of Pontificiall infallibility Saint Cyprian saies the Romans are such to whom
rent with his owne arguments shall he not dare to encounter you out of the slender scrip of his owne reason and with pebbles drawn from a brooke of clearer testimonies aime at your forehead that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 pontificiall infallibility in the head of your Church and then amputate it by the two edg'd sword of verity and the whole host of delusion your Catholique body of error cui fumus pro fundamento shall evaporate yet by wrinkling and shrinking truth I shall not bring the Church in that narrow compasse to give private spirits leave to ruffle her or make her lesse Catholick or not infallible which could she be she might cease to be holy nor could I be perswaded that the pontificiall robes carried holiness to the Lord that Vrim and Thuminim perfection and light were relative to the Miter and the lips of that high Priest onely carried knowledge I could fly the bosom of the common mother but since from distemper'd parents we exuge poyson not nutriment you must give leave to decline those breasts which flow not with the sincere milk of the word and believe the body distemper'd and of a richetty constitution whose head so exceeds the proportion had infallibilitie a tie above the intention of a Priest in Collation of orders to the proof of which though I cannot expresse the exactnesse of pedantism in quotation yet I shall not be warp'd from that may expresse ingenuity and satisfie a pretender to it in a rural retirement having no book but one of an imperfect edition forc'd to read my self ubi multa desiderantur à desunt nonnulla but nothing that may inform of truth though I can make use onely of some confus'd notes for the engraphical part of memory yet in the agraphical part I shall not show so great a deficiency in the Mnenon●cal Art as may render truth suspected truth shal be my aim I may fly high rove yet never farre from the mark and perhaps escape the fa●lts of most Polemicks who resemble a piece of Arras where there is much in representation and nothing in reality or Plutarchs heartlesse fish with a sword assimilating body want both vigor and acutenesse the discourses of umbraticall Doctors on all sides like bodies bred in the shade cannot endure the Sun or a shower in their more serious retirements affecting nothing beyond Domitians humour of catching of flies which I shall without torture inforce them to confesse Could you but dispossesse your self of prejudicacy truth is a garment that time can wear who pretend to grey-headed error rather d●scredit it then patronize it Lay aside those great names of Seraphick and Angelick Doctors look not on any Religion through the opticks of blear-ey'd prejudice as I am confident you make not yours squint to self-interest I have neither giv'n up my name to regall or papall supremacy neither protested covenanted or ingag'd to any faction hee who aims at truth by the Roman or any other bias wi●l never come nere the mark the fire of self-love as it is kindled by the breath of the Father of lies so it partaketh of the quality of his flames to be without light since it keepeth us in darknesse to our selves an imperception of the true dimensions of others This liking or disliking of others is but the spurious issue of philautie which undervalues al meets not in a compliance with the humour some natures as Seneca observes are so shady as they think every thing turbulent and stormy that is even in a meridian l●ght Some like to old rusticks are content to meet in the Church porch of tradition to talk of mundan a affairs which care not to enter into the Church to serve God in his Ordinances others resemble young Novices which creep into the Church by holes to angle and ring the bells backward neglecting the key of trad●tion others by curious inquiries are put into a whee● and are circled so long betwixt proving the Scripture by tradition and tradition by Scripture till the Devill find a means to dispute them into infidelity and make them believe neither Most mens lips and pens open wide like to a monilesse purse nothing comes out of this and what is worth nothing out of them yet this nothing must be plac'd in competition with nothing lesse then salvation the tradition of the Church must be a satisfactory proof to believe by Divine faith if we may believe a Papist Scripture Gods word If wee ask why we must believe it is replied because the Church is infallibly govern'd by the holy Ghost if we inquire how they run to revelation guilty of enthusiasm which they object to others or if they offer to prove it by Scripture as most do it is an acknowledgement that the Scripture is of higher proof then the Churches tradition thus these impertinents touch ne●ther Heaven nor Earth in their discourses they open an entry into a room but shut it presently Some elate tradition above Divinity the principles of any conclusion must be of more cred●● then the conclusion it self the Articles of Faith the Trinity Resurrection and Communion if the conclusions by which they are proveable is Ecclesiastical trad●tion it must follow that the Churches tradition is of more credit when the Faith of the Articles must be finally resolv'd into the veracity of the Churches testimony Others depresse tradition even below humanity are so far from equalizing it with rational d●scourses as they prefer the dreams of phanaticks before the Churches tradition without which a rayling Song thrust upon an evil air is not worse musick then the confused notes which some intitle the harmony of Scriptures and if they know Gods Law by heart they have no heart to his Law and after all these pretences of Knowledge and illumination like to the Egyptian sages can produce nothing but frogs and blood Nor doe the Exotique Seminaries furnish us better then the weeds which the ranknesse of our own soil hath cast up Apostolicall pruging-hookes are exchang'd for Sanguinary instruments involving the world in blood and staining their own lives at the●r deaths leaving nothing behind but a memorial of some hideous impietie while with styles solemnly religious and even Seraphical devotions we find more principl'd in Caesar Borgia and Nicholas the Florentine then Elemented in Religion not erecting a Spiritual Kingdome for Christ but a temporal for the Pope which he honest good man solemnly vows and protests against for all the Bishops of Rome at their Creation make a solemn vow and confess to observe inviolably all Ordinances made in the first eight generall Councells in which is provided that all Causes be determined by the Bishop of the same Province where they are begun This might check the exorbitancy of the Roman See and confine Tibur within her own limits if sober men having neither the inebriations of passion or self-interest might be judges Neither might that impertinent question of triflers
grease of maintenance onely creak make a noise and disquiet the world Sect. 2. Most Polemicks while they have too rashly charg'd the body of error have made themselves her Captives and lent Antagonists Trophies of their rashnesse Though truth is a strong fort inconsideration may become a traytor and expose it to the mercy of an enemy Most men are so drunk with dispute and inebriated by their passions that they cast at Antagonists heads all they can lay hold on not fearing a rebound or what weapons they administer to their own ruine show the weakness of their adversaries with so much of their own that they lend opportunities to error they permit the wild bore in their Vineyards would keep out the Foxes and open a gap for the Foxes would expell the Wild bore they whose malice nam'd the Bishop of Rome Antichrist their weaknesse opened a door to the Brownist to bring in their own orders as rivolets from that See into the premunire of Antichristian While Rome would prevent dissentious they are forc'd to dissent from themselves admit that overgrown monster tyrannons infallibility like the Wild Bore of the Forrest to lay wast Gods Vineyard grown cruelly subtle by age and confidence in his tuskes gores all that stand in opposition ●oming with mali●e ambition and Avarice and wallowing in impurities they who dissent from these have not learn'd to agree with themselves each one hath his distinct Idol different Concubine various glosse on which their phancies set produces a brood of sects While they adulterate the Scripture and seem to approve that which they so much decry while they wed themselves to the Idols of their own phancy become the greatest Idolaters or confirm Copernicism with their whimzies the Earths motion by a continuity of giddinesse Sect. 3. With the Lyrck Nullius addictus jurare in verba magistri me quocunque rapit tempestas deferor Neither shall I put gall in the ink I write of Religion because others sowre their language If I open sores the launching shall be onely to let out their corruption or take away the proud flesh that keeps the wounds of the Church from healing And though I may confess with S. Bernard Non sit major superbia quam ut unus homo toti congregattoni judicium suum praeferat tanquam ipse solus spiritum Dei habeat yet 't is a different thing for a man modestly in some points dis-satisfied to propose quaeres not to a Congregation onely but the Catholick Church and a sober man may without trenching on irreligion or the least touch of madness or insolency dispute a matter of Religion with the Roman or Church or Prelate as Irenaeus with Victor modesty accompanying and a desire to fist out truth free from vanity and purpos'd opposition even against a particular Church though to dispute an ● Article of Faith what the Catholick Church hath alwayes believ'd is what S. Austine calls insolent madness But in other things Consent of Nations Authority confirm'd by Miracles and Antiquity of S. Peters chair and succession from it motives to keep in the Catholick Church must not hold against demonstration of truth quae quidem si tam manifesta monstratur ut in in dubium venire non possit proponenda est omnibus illis quibus in Catholicâ teneor ita si ali quid apertissimum Evangelio● they have opened the gates and made the way that went before us non Domini nostri sed duces fuere truth lies open to all it is no mans severall patet omnibus veritas nondum est occupata multum exilia etiam futur is relicta dissentire licet sed cum ratione non mihi credendum sed veritati Sect. 4. Though I cannot look upon the Pope with that dreadfull apparition which some affrighted with the horror of their own imaginations who character him by a Virgils Polyphemus monstrum horrendum informe ingens cuilumen ademptum Or some sad and distorted phancies flutering betwixt the twilight of ignorance and self-conceit bandy against the name with prejudice as it nothing could result from thence might not taint the odour of virtue and innocence yet could I but believe infallibility to bee the Prerogative of the the pontificial chair I might believe with the Schoolmen sin a non-entity that Pontificial impurities passing for nothing the chair might be secur'd from rasher imputations St. Irenaeus might not accuse a Victor S. Cyprian a Stephen S. Athanasius a Pope Liberius for Arrianism all that pretend to goodnesse Heresie in an Anastatius Honorius John 22. Necromancy in a Silvester Magick in a third Paul a John the 8th 12 13 14 15 16 17. as if the name which implies gratious could import a concatenation of mischiefe they being link'd together in with the 7th Boniface for the most part entring like Foxes living like Lyons and dying like Dogs non montes parturient ridiculum murem sed secundum ridiculum morem in the eight John and Bened●ct the 9th supposed to appeare in the shape of a Monster after death because in all his life hee appeared not lesse then a Monste● in all his Actions a 6th Vrban could drown five Candinalls for revenge andas if this had been too little let loose a deluge of impiety the 5. Cardinal virtues suffering for name sake But these are modest vey'd with witchcrafts incests cruelties of a sixth Alexander Idolatrous sacrifices in a Marcelln Diabolicall applications in a Celestine inhumations and such ridiculous peeces of cruelties in others that even Paganism is charitable and Mahometism it self comparatively virtuous Should I omit a 10th Leo's that Father of Christendom in long Coats who before the times others do arrive at age had attain'd to be Father of all the Aged a Pope at twenty quantum peperit nobishaec fabula Christi and after a dispure de animâ redit in nihilum quod fu●t ante nihil but I would sally no further shrowds best befiit the dead and by a candid retrogradation to draw a white veil of innocence over those who should have been nursing Fathers to the Church yet let mee tell you Sir 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 how assents he to Christ in his words who dissents from him in his works Three blazing Comets conspicuous in the Roman Horizon at the same time it would be strange if they should produce no alteration in the Ecclesiastick body three Popes cohabiting at Rome three in diverse Countries a schism for forty years Popes at the French and German devotion Ambition and Corruption to the attaining the Papall dignity as Platina being more prevalent then a Christian life it would be a miracle above any Legends pretend to that Contrariety should r●concile mutuall Contradictions render infallible while the Church musick must bee onely set out of such discord Antipopes not onely in competition for but opposition to the pontificial dignity of the Popes infallibility see your own
theirs must have sworn vassalage to the Papacy Sect. 20. Or that communion of Saints was an article of levelling taken up pro necessitate temporum since Saint Cyprian takes no notice of it in his time and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Praising God and having all things common was the Saints communion May we all be members of one body while we show a mutuall sympathy partake of the same head by obeying Christs directions cemented together with his blood and knit by the unity of his spirit though every part may conduce to the good of the other none can so supererogate as the other may be uselesse similar nor dissimilar breeds no contrarietie but all parts comply to the service of the whole no dissimilitude of site motion ceremony divide but the gangreen of sin only enforces an amputation ne pars sincera trahatur The eyes are not incensed against the feet for not seeeng nor doth the ear commence a quarrell with the hands for not hearing or the back parts about the faces uncovering since decency of one part is the indecency of another every part not made for it self but for others all to the captivity of the head in compliance of whose dictates we must expect an unity in the body But an uniformity would prove a monster above a sober expectation above the chymaera's or phantasms of Enthusiasts who damn all the world that weather-cock-like turns not round with their own vertiginous heads Scimus quosdam quod semelimbiberint nolle deponere nec propositū suum facile mutare sed salvo inter collegas pacis concordiae vinculo quaedam propria apud se semel usurpata retinere nec nos vim cuique facimus nec legem damus was the opinion of Saint Cyprian I could wish those who pretend most to be of his opinion would challenge a little of his charity Sect 22. For forgivenesse of sins I as little believe a Solifidian as a Romish Priest that attrition by absolution becomes contrition the one while he deceives himselfe by a lie or the other while he imposeth upon others secure neither from being deceived they may send to the father of lies but lying will scarce bring to the God of truth since none can be implanted in the death of Christ who bring not forth the fruit of this tree of life nor partake of the resurrection to life everlasting He that will be saved must keep the faith 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 sound in faith and free from reproach in conversation holy as well as whole and so his holinesse himselfe may be prov'd the most fallible and though they violate the sense of the word while they render it inviolate yet God grant that they may keep it inviolate no more writh and wrench it to rivet in their own ambitious designes and we may keep it so undefiled that Momus himselfe may not carp at our lives since Christs death is mention'd for our regeneration birth for mortification resurrection for our rising in newnesse of life that we may enjoy the communion of Saints remission of sinnes and resurrection of our bodies to eternall life Sect. 23. There are but a few credenda petenda and agenda where I cannot avoid an Anathema non credendo non opponendo I will seek security embrace verities all hold if I cannot those wherein they differ though sometimes enterlacing discords graces the best Musick yet a quiet error is rarely not to be preferred before an unruly truth and crochets and quavers prove unseasonable when they disturb the plain songs of peace and it is better a son of the Church should be unknown then what they report of the viper he should make his way through the bowells of his Mother or a Milstone hung about his neck and he buried in the depth of his imaginations rather then they soar in the narrow way and keep weak brethren from heaven It shall not trouble me with Delrio whether the old Serpent was a Viper with Bonaventure and Comestor a Dragon or with Eugubinus a Basilisk or with others a common Snake it shall trouble me rather to continue the delusion of the Serpent by endeavours of propagating error that Adam tasted forbidden fruit may trouble me what fruit shall not I shall number it among the fo●bidden fruits of knowledge which so many wiser heads have made disquisitions after and would have truth satisfied by the relish of their palats Sect 25. Whether our Saviours Crown was made of Paliurus or a piece of it visited Glassenburie and the precursor of his death turns an Angel of his Nativity blooming every Christmas day is not worth a disquisition I could make a Rose by moistning dilate and by rendring again insuc●ous close may I rather avoid those thorns the curse of my sins which may render me incapable of both Whether Durantes distick of the Crosse be true need be no part of my creed Pes Cedrus est truncus Cupressus oliva supremum Palmaque transversum Christi sunt in cruce signum May I partake of no corruption like the Cedar in mourning for sin resemble the Cypresse by fertility in goodnesse assimilate the Olive so shall I flourish like a Palm even in the storms and pressures of this world mount upward by taking up the Crosse and following be partaker of him who was crucified Prudent symbols and pious applications may have an influence upon ingenious conceivers which may elevate devotion but on the mad rabble melancholy Monks and ignorant Priests they have no other efficacy beside warping to Magicall applications and miraculous expectancies It shall not trouble me whether the soul of Christ in triduo mortis went into Hell really as Thomas Aquinas believes or virtually and by effects only as Durand or whether the soul of Christ did descend really and in essence into the lowest pit of hell and place of the damned or really only into the place or region of hell called limbum Patrum and then but vertually from thence into the lower hell The Father to him who ask'd what God did before he made the world answe'rd Provide hell for such curious scrutinists as you are Non per difficiles Deus ad be atam vitam quaestiones vocat c. in absoluto nobis facili est aeternitas Jesum suscitatum à mortuis credere ipsum esse Dominum confiteri I will not procure a certain purgatory to my selfe here to make stranger guesses of an incertain one hereafter or whether the inventor of it Origens purgatory which could even purifie Devills reform them to Angels of light or the differing purgatory of S. Gregory Nissen St. Cyprian or St. Austin carry a greater probability or the Roman purgatory which took a platform from neither I can believe I may find a way to heaven without taking purgatory in my way or else the Fathers before Gregory the great might mistake never any one was directed that way with above an ut