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no_o sacrament_n can_v subsist_v term_v by_o divine_v materia_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la this_o substantial_a part_n be_v not_o want_v in_o the_o sacrament_n give_v in_o one_o kind_n in_o which_o there_o be_v consecrate_v bread_n visible_a and_o sensible_a in_o the_o accident_n thereof_o and_o manducation_n a_o action_n also_o visible_a and_o apparent_a to_o sense_n the_o second_o thing_n require_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v verbum_fw-la the_o word_n that_o be_v a_o form_n of_o speech_n show_v the_o divine_a and_o supernatural_a purpose_n unto_o which_o the_o element_n be_v consecrate_v neither_o be_v that_o part_n want_v in_o the_o sacrament_n give_v under_o one_o kind_n which_o be_v consecrate_v by_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o the_o theological_a principle_n take_v out_o of_o saint_n augustin_n verify_v accedit_fw-la verbum_fw-la ad_fw-la elementum_fw-la &_o fit_a sacramentum_fw-la the_o three_o thing_n be_v signification_n every_o sacrament_n signify_v some_o divine_a effect_n of_o grace_n which_o god_n work_v by_o the_o application_n thereof_o and_o the_o sensible_a sign_n even_o by_o nature_n have_v as_o saint_n augustine_n epist._n 23._o note_v some_o proportion_n &_o analogy_n to_o signify_v that_o divine_a effect_n which_o to_o produce_v it_o be_v assume_v by_o god_n omnipotency_n as_o a_o instrument_n this_o sacred_a signification_n which_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n have_v be_v of_o three_o kind_n and_o all_o three_o be_v find_v in_o the_o sacrament_n give_v under_o one_o kind_n first_o this_o sacrament_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o spiritual_a food_n for_o the_o nourishment_n and_o refection_n of_o the_o soul_n which_o signification_n be_v manifest_o find_v in_o communion_n under_o one_o demonstrate_v one_o the_o minister_n very_o often_o though_o out_o of_o place_n as_o pag._n 470._o li._n 20._o &_o pa._n 442._o object_n if_o communion_n in_o both_o kind_n be_v not_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n why_o shall_v communion_n in_o bread_n or_o wine_n be_v of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n why_o may_v not_o communion_n in_o cheese_n be_v true_o a_o sacrament_n as_o well_o as_o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n answer_n first_o diverse_a protestant_n namely_o beza_n and_o caluin_n see_v beza_n epist_n 2._o &_o epist_n 25._o teach_v that_o though_o christ_n do_v institute_v the_o sacrament_n in_o bread_n and_o wine_n yet_o in_o case_n that_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v want_v one_o may_v use_v some_o other_o proportionable_a element_n as_o cheese_n and_o beer_n may_v you_o not_o employ_v your_o talon_n in_o rail_v upon_o these_o man_n better_a than_o on_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n second_o the_o protestant_n allow_v of_o cheese_n in_o lieu_n of_o bread_n and_o beer_n in_o lieu_n of_o wine_n be_v to_o change_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o element_n wherein_o christ_n do_v institute_v the_o sacrament_n and_o consequent_o to_o change_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o institution_n and_o sacrament_n bring_v in_o a_o institution_n and_o sacrament_n of_o another_o substance_n but_o to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o kind_n of_o bread_n without_o wine_n be_v not_o to_o change_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o element_n but_o only_o whereas_o the_o sacrament_n for_o more_o complete_a signification_n be_v institute_v in_o two_o elemtens_fw-la as_o for_o the_o same_o reason_n it_o be_v institute_v after_o supper_n to_o use_v the_o one_o element_n without_o the_o other_o the_o whole_a nature_n of_o the_o sacrament_n sufficient_a for_o all_o the_o function_n thereof_o be_v find_v in_o one_o kind_n as_o the_o jesuit_n do_v here_o demonstrate_v kind_n for_o the_o eucharist_n do_v signify_v this_o effect_n of_o spiritual_a nutrition_n because_o it_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o christ_n the_o bread_n of_o life_n the_o food_n of_o angel_n the_o fountain_n of_o grace_n but_o by_o the_o sole_a form_n of_o bread_n christ_n be_v signify_v as_o present_v according_a to_o his_o most_o sacred_a body_n and_o consequent_o as_o most_o sufficient_a to_o feed_v and_o refresh_v the_o soul_n another_o signification_n of_o this_o sacrament_n be_v union_n and_o conjunction_n between_o the_o faithful_a as_o be_v member_n of_o the_o same_o body_n whereof_o christ_n be_v head_n &_o fellow-member_n one_o with_o another_o as_o s._n paul_n declare_v rom._n 12.4_o which_o conjunction_n the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n do_v signify_v for_o bread_n be_v a_o compound_n of_o many_o grain_n of_o wheat_n mass_v together_o in_o one_o loaf_n &_o also_o make_v of_o flower_n and_o water_n mingle_v one_o with_o another_o signifyes_n the_o perfect_a union_n both_o of_o the_o church_n with_o christ_n &_o of_o the_o faithful_a that_o be_v in_o the_o church_n one_o with_o another_o as_o saint_n paul_n 1_o cor._n 10._o testifyes_n unum_fw-la corpus_fw-la sumus_fw-la quotquot_fw-la de_fw-la uno_fw-la pane_fw-la participamus_fw-la where_o he_o make_v no_o mention_n of_o wine_n the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n be_v alone_o able_a to_o show_v &_o work_v this_o signification_n this_o sacrament_n do_v also_o signify_v the_o passion_n and_o death_n of_o our_o saviour_n which_o death_n and_o passion_n be_v show_v and_o represent_v by_o communion_n under_o one_o kind_n sacrament_n kind_n the_o minister_n say_v pag._n 479._o that_o both_o kind_n do_v more_o lively_o represent_v christ_n passion_n than_o one_o only_a answer_n what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o purpose_n to_o prove_v the_o sacrament_n in_o one_o kind_n substantial_o imperfect_a baptism_n by_o plunge_v the_o child_n into_o water_n represent_v christ_n death_n and_o resurrection_n more_o lively_o they_o baptism_n by_o sprinkle_v yet_o be_v baptism_n by_o aspersion_n a_o full_a and_o entire_a sacrament_n for_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o form_n of_o wine_n only_o we_o have_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n to_o remember_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n that_o be_v in_o his_o passion_n shed_v and_o separate_v from_o his_o body_n likewise_o by_o participate_v of_o the_o consecrate_a bread_n we_o may_v lively_o conceive_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n as_o it_o be_v deprive_v of_o the_o most_o precious_a blood_n by_o the_o effusion_n thereof_o on_o the_o cross_n whereupon_o christ_n as_o saint_n paul_n 14.15_o paul_n 1._o cor._n 11._o v._n 14.15_o testifyes_n do_v after_o the_o consecration_n of_o each_o kind_n particular_o recommend_v the_o memory_n of_o his_o passion_n as_o know_v that_o in_o each_o of_o they_o alone_o be_v a_o sufficient_a monument_n and_o memorial_n thereof_o the_o four_o thing_n require_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o a_o sacrament_n be_v causality_n to_o wit_n to_o work_v in_o the_o soul_n the_o spiritual_a effect_n it_o signifyes_n this_o causality_n can_v be_v want_v to_o the_o sacrament_n under_o one_o kind_n wherein_o be_v contain_v the_o fountain_n of_o spiritual_a life_n for_o the_o cause_n why_o the_o sacrament_n in_o both_o kind_n give_v grace_n and_o refresh_v the_o soul_n be_v that_o christ_n be_v assistant_n unto_o they_o bind_v by_o his_o promise_n at_o the_o presence_n of_o sensible_a sign_n to_o work_v proportionable_o spiritual_a effect_n in_o dispose_v soul_n but_o christ_n be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n &_o he_o be_v able_a through_o infinite_a power_n and_o bind_v by_o inviolable_a promise_n to_o work_v the_o effect_n of_o grace_n preserve_v unto_o life_n eternal_a the_o worthy_a participant_a of_o this_o sacrament_n only_o sacrament_n hence_o be_v refute_v what_o the_o minister_n say_v pag._n 478_o without_o any_o proof_n that_o the_o promise_n of_o grace_n be_v not_o make_v to_o one_o kind_n only_o under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n qui_fw-la manducat_fw-la hunc_fw-la panem_fw-la vivit_fw-la in_o aeternum_fw-la joan._n 6.55_o not_o any_o doubt_n than_o may_v be_v make_v but_o the_o sacrament_n in_o one_o kind_n be_v full_a entire_a complete_a in_o substance_n &_o by_o participation_n thereof_o prepare_v conscience_n do_v receive_v the_o benefit_n of_o celestial_a favour_n that_o conserve_v the_o life_n of_o the_o soul_n with_o daily_a increase_n in_o perfection_n kind_n perfection_n the_o minister_n very_o often_o object_v as_o pag._n 479._o &_o 502._o and_o elsewhere_o that_o according_a to_o the_o tenet_n of_o some_o schoolman_n great_a benefit_n of_o grace_n it_o reap_v by_o communion_n in_o both_o kind_n answer_n first_o catholic_a divine_v of_o great_a number_n &_o learning_n hold_v the_o contrary_n second_o this_o be_v impertinent_a for_o the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o communion_n in_o both_o kind_n be_v of_o great_a perfection_n but_o whether_o it_o be_v necessary_a unto_o salvation_n three_o if_o communion_n in_o both_o kind_n give_v more_o grace_n yet_o this_o excess_n may_v be_v easy_o equal_v by_o other_o diligence_n as_o by_o often_o receive_v in_o one_o kind_n and_o by_o obedience_n to_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n the_o minister_n 472._o prove_v communion_n in_o both_o kind_n to_o be_v of_o great_a profit_n because_o it_o be_v
optat._n l._n 6._o cont_n parmenian_n sed_fw-la quia_fw-la qui_fw-la saucium_fw-la commendaverat_fw-la se_fw-la promiserat_fw-la redditurum_fw-la quicquid_fw-la in_o curam_fw-la amplius_fw-la erogasset_fw-la post_fw-la impensos_fw-la dvos_fw-la denarios_fw-la non_fw-la praecepta_fw-la sed_fw-la consilium_fw-la erogat_fw-la paulus_n nec_fw-la impedimentum_fw-la est_fw-la voluntati_fw-la nec_fw-la nolentes_fw-la impellit_fw-la aut_fw-la cogit_fw-la qui_fw-la dederit_fw-la inquit_fw-la virginem_fw-la svam_fw-la bene_fw-la facit_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la non_fw-la dederit_fw-la melius_fw-la facit_fw-la hae_fw-la sunt_fw-la verba_fw-la consilij_fw-la nec_fw-la sunt_fw-la ulla_fw-la praecepta_fw-la coniuncta_fw-la saint_n hierome_n 1._o hierome_n hier._n adversus_fw-la jovin_n cap._n 7._o l._n 1._o plus_fw-fr amat_fw-la christus_fw-la virgin_n quia_fw-la sponte_fw-la tribuunt_fw-la quod_fw-la sibi_fw-la non_fw-la fuerat_fw-la imperatum_fw-la maiorisque_fw-la gratiae_fw-la est_fw-la offer_z quod_fw-la non_fw-la debeas_fw-la quà m_fw-la reddere_fw-la quod_fw-la exigaris_fw-la saint_n chrysostome_n poenitentia_fw-la chrysostome_n chrys._n hom_n 8._o de_fw-la poenitentia_fw-la nequaquam_fw-la dominum_fw-la incuses_fw-la haud_fw-la mandat_fw-la impossibilia_fw-la multi_fw-la ipsa_fw-la superant_fw-la mandata_fw-la saint_n gregory_n nazianzen_n 3._o nazianzen_n greg._n naz._n orat_fw-la 3._o in_o legibus_fw-la nostris_fw-la alia_fw-la parendi_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la imponunt_fw-la nec_fw-la sive_fw-la periculo_fw-la praetermitti_fw-la possunt_fw-la alia_fw-la non_fw-la necessitate_v constringunt_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o arbitrio_fw-la &_o voluntate_fw-la posita_fw-la sunt_fw-la ac_fw-la proinde_fw-la hanc_fw-la rationem_fw-la habent_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la ea_fw-la custodierint_fw-la praemijs_fw-la &_o honore_fw-la afficiantur_fw-la qui_fw-la autem_fw-la minus_fw-la ea_fw-la expleverint_fw-la nihil_fw-la periculi_fw-la pertimescant_fw-la saint_n cyprian_n finem_fw-la cyprian_n cypr._n de_fw-fr habitu_fw-la virginem_fw-la prope_fw-la finem_fw-la non_fw-la iubet_fw-la virginitatem_fw-la dominus_fw-la sed_fw-la hortatur_fw-la nec_fw-la iugum_fw-la necessitatis_fw-la imponit_fw-la quando_fw-la manet_fw-la voluntatis_fw-la arbitrium_fw-la liberum_fw-la origenes_n rom._n origenes_n orig._n in_o cap._n 15._o ad_fw-la rom._n eaqua_n supra_fw-la debitum_fw-la facimus_fw-la non_fw-la facimus_fw-la ex_fw-la praecepto_fw-la verbi_fw-la causa_fw-la virginitas_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la debito_fw-la soluitur_fw-la sed_fw-la supra_fw-la debitum_fw-la offertur_fw-la i_o will_v not_o bring_v more_o proof_n of_o this_o doctrine_n out_o of_o scripture_n which_o the_o father_n i_o cite_v prove_v by_o the_o word_n of_o saint_n paul_n 7._o paul_n 1._o cor._n 7._o in_o express_a term_n affirm_v that_o there_o be_v beside_o precept_n work_n of_o supererogation_n or_o counsel_n de_fw-fr virginibus_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la domini_fw-la non_fw-la habeo_fw-la sed_fw-la consilium_fw-la do_v nor_o will_v i_o allege_v more_o testimony_n of_o father_n which_o may_v be_v produce_v in_o great_a number_n most_o plain_a and_o pregnant_a only_o i_o can_v omit_v one_o place_n of_o saint_n ambrose_n who_o deliver_v this_o doctrine_n do_v together_o answer_v a_o protestant_n vulgar_a objection_n against_o it_o medium_n it_o ambros._n l._n de_fw-la viduis_fw-la ultra_fw-la medium_n itaque_fw-la qui_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la impleverint_fw-la possunt_fw-la dicere_fw-la serui_fw-la inutiles_fw-la sumus_fw-la quod_fw-la debuimus_fw-la facere_fw-la fecimus_fw-la hoc_fw-la virgo_fw-la non_fw-la dicit_fw-la non_fw-la dicit_fw-la qui_fw-la bona_fw-la sva_fw-la vendidit_fw-la sed_fw-la quasi_fw-la reposita_fw-la expectat_fw-la praemia_fw-la sicut_fw-la sanctus_n apostolus_fw-la ait_fw-la ecce_fw-la nos_fw-la reliquimus_fw-la omne_fw-la &_o secuti_fw-la sumus_fw-la te_fw-la quid_fw-la ergo_fw-la erit_fw-la nobis_fw-la sunt_fw-la enim_fw-la 12._o enim_fw-la luc._n 17._o v._n 10._o matth._n 19_o v._n 17._o ibid._n v._o 12._o spadones_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la castraverunt_fw-la propter_fw-la regnum_fw-la caelorum_fw-la sed_fw-la hoc_fw-la non_fw-la omnibus_fw-la imperatur_fw-la sed_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la flagitatur_fw-la virgo_fw-la provocatur_fw-la consilijs_fw-la non_fw-la vinculis_fw-la alligatur_fw-la sed_fw-la nec_fw-la vidua_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la accipit_fw-la sed_fw-la consilium_fw-la what_o can_v be_v more_o clear_o speak_v for_o work_n of_o supererogation_n or_o counsel_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o arrogancy_n as_o i_o say_v before_o in_o this_o doctrine_n for_o neither_o the_o father_n nor_o we_o attribute_v more_o unto_o man_n then_o protestant_n do_v but_o only_o acknowledge_v one_o kind_n of_o divine_a liberality_n towards_o man_n which_o protestant_n be_v somewhat_o backward_o to_o believe_v for_o suppose_v that_o god_n exact_v much_o less_o than_o he_o may_v &_o much_o less_o than_o man_n be_v able_a by_o his_o grace_n to_o perform_v protestant_n will_v 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