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A07529 Papisto-mastix, or The protestants religion defended Shewing briefely when the great compound heresie of poperie first sprange; how it grew peece by peece till Antichrist was disclosed; how it hath been consumed by the breath of Gods mouth: and when it shall be cut downe and withered. By William Middleton Bachelor of Diuinitie, and minister of Hardwicke in Cambridge-shire. Middleton, William, d. 1613. 1606 (1606) STC 17913; ESTC S112681 172,602 222

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euen in his sight and presence Now what can this second beast be but the Lambe skinned Dragon tongued Prelacy of Rome and what other beast did the Romane Empire euer yeeld vnto but this onely whereof it followeth that the first beast is not onely the heathenish Emperours but the succession in generalitie for the heathenish neuer yeelded any of their heads to be cured by the Romish Dragon nay marke further where the g Apoc. cap. 18. holy Ghost teacheth that this first beast that hath seuen heads and ten hornes is ridden by the scarlet coloured whore of Baylon which cannot be vnderstood singly of the heathenish Emperours but generally of the Empire of Rome which at length yeelded his backe to bee sadled and ridden by that Babylonish Harlot which h Cap. 19.20 is afterward called a false prophet Wherefore as I sayd before so I say againe come i Reu. 18.4 out of Babylon that ye be not partakers of her sinnes and that yee receiue not of her plagues O mercifull Father open our eyes that we may see the vglinesse of Poperie in the cleere glasse of thy holy word and still teach vs by the continuall experience of thy gratious fauor and protection to take heed of the sauage designements of the Romish Dragon Hardwicke the 28. of Ianuarie 1606. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ad Lectorem Corporis angusto mihi pes fuit alter in antro Mens quoque vi socia corporis aegra fuit Ne pigeat tamen hunc librum percurrere patris aegroti sanus filius esse potest Debilis aura vias solet exiccare palustres Et lapides magnos guttula parua cauat The Contents Sectio 1. Questions touching the Church Scriptures Fathers and Traditions in generall by way of Introduction Sectio 2. Of the Lords day eating blood maryage within degrees of affinitie polygamy and punishming theft whether they be determined by scripture or Tradition Sectio 3. 4. Of Traditions in generall Sectio 5. Whether the Fathers holding certaine points of Papistrie be therefore excluded out of our Church Sectio 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Of praying for the dead Sectio 11. 12. 13. 14. Of Purgatorie Sectio 15. 16. 17. 18. Of Transubstantiation Sectio 19. Of prayer to Saints Sectio 20. 21. 22 Of vowing chastitie and Priests mariage Sectio 23. Of the errours of the ancient Fathers Sectio 24. Of Iustification by merite of our owne workes and the superabundant workes of the Saints Sectio 25. Of free-will to merite heauen Sectio 26. Of the power of the keyes ouer the quicke and the dead Sectio 27. A Conclusion containing certaine generall inducements that Poperie is the true way that leadeth blinde men and fooles to heauen so as they cannot erre and that our Religion is an inexplicable Labirinth that hath no direction which is plaine blasphemie against God the author and inspirer of the Scripture A BRIEFE ANSVVERE to a Popish Dialogue between two Gentlemen the one a Papist the other a Protestant The Dialogue Sectio I. PApist Doe you beléeue the Catholicke Church planted first by the Apostles in Iudaea and afterward dispersed through the whole world which Church hath euer since remained on earth and shall so continue vntil the second comming of Christ Protestant All this I doe beleeue Pap. Are the Protestants of this Church or the Papists or both Pro. The Protestants onely Pap. Haue you any outward meanes to perswade you that the Protestants are onely of this Church or are you mooued thereunto by inspiration onely Pro. The inward meanes is the spirite of God the outward is the canonicall Scripture Pap. This inward meanes lyeth hidden in your owne breast but how do you by this outward meane discerne the true Church Pro. That church which doth teach practise the doctrine conteined in the canonicall Scriptures is the true Church of Christ cōtrariwise that church which in matters of faith teacheth a VVittingly and wilfully any doctrine repugnant or not grounded vpon the same word is an hereticall Church a synagogue of Satan Pap. The Scriptures you say are the outward meane for discerning of the true Church haue you some outward meanes to discerne the canonicall Scriptures or doe you know them by inspiration onely Pro. The outward meane is the vniforme b There be other outward meanes beside the consent of antiquitie consent of all antiquitie Pap. You doe then receiue the testimonie of ancient writers for the discerning of the canonicall Scriptures why doe you not likewise beléeue that the Apostles did leaue many things to be obserued in the Church by tradition without writing séeing that the one and the other is confirmed by the like vniforme consent of ancient writers Pro. The Scripture is the sure rocke whereon to build our faith wherein all things are contained necessarie for our saluation The Answere IT is a common saying that such as doe deficere in extremo actu faile in the last act are foolish Poets but whether they be foolish Diuines or no that faile euerie where beginning and ending and all iudge you and that you may doe it the better obserue I pray you how vntowardly this popish Diuine begins to lay his foundation that you may the better iudge of the whole frame of his building The word Catholicke is taken three maner of wayes first for that which is opposed to heretical or schismaticall as Ecclesia Catholica the Catholicke Church and Ecclesia Martyrum the Church of the Martyrs Haeresi 68. in Epiphanius Secondly for that which is opposed to the Church of the Iewes for such a signification hath the word Catholicke in the inscription of Saint Iames his Epistle Lastly for the generall fellowship of all the children of God elected and adopted in Christ Iesu before the foundations of the world for none else can bee the members of the bodie of Christ Eph. 1.23 Colos 1.24 and in this signification it is taken in our Creed Now it would be knowne which of these significations is meant in the first question the first signification restraineth the word Catholicke to particular Churches it is not like that your Papist demaundeth whether you beleeue this or that Church in particular Againe the second opposeth the word Catholicke to the church of Iurie wheras your Papist includeth the church of Iurie before there was any other church any where planted in his question saying Doe you beléeue the catholique Church planted first by the Apostles in Iudaea and afterward dispersed c. The last signification is applied to the Saints of God predestinated to saluation 2. Tim. 2.19 which Church was neuer planted by the Apostles but by the eternall decree of God who onely knoweth who are his Againe I can hardly brooke that the Church is here said to be first planted by the Apostles for God had his Church euer from the beginning or that it hath remained euer since the Apostles planted it for it hath
verbo non script lib. 4 Cap. 8. concludes out of Paul that all thinges are not to be opened to all but some things must be d 1. Cor. 2.6 reserued perfectis sapientibus yet I doubt whether any such perfect wise men are to bee found in the world O you perfect wise men of Rome or of Rhemes or where else soeuer you nestle your selues in the world can your perfect wisedomes doe so much for vs as to set downe these Traditions in blacke and white in a perfect Catalogue that if any controuersie arise about this or that tradition your blacke and white Booke may resolue vs No no you cannot doe it and therefore you tell vs you may not doe it in the hearing of such simple fellowes as we be because Paul hath commaunded the contrarie Sapientiam loquimur inter perfectos is your warrant to hide these mysteries from such poore fooles as we be But wote you what this verie allegation shall be our warrant to pronounce that you are perfect wise heretickes such as Basilides Carpocrates Cerinthus Valentinus and Marcion looke in e Iren. lib. 1. cap. 23. 24. lib. 3. cap. 2. Irenaeus and f Tertul. de prescript aduers haeret Tertullian and there you shall finde that I doe not be-lye you g Math. 10 27. our Sauiour willeth his Disciples to speake in the open light and to preach on the tops of the houses and himselfe confirmed this plaine and open dealing by his own practise h Ioh. 18.20 I spake openly to the world saith he I euer taught in the Synagogue and in the temple where the Iewes alwaies resort and in secret haue I sayd nothing These places be inanswerable and therefore some that be lesse wayward in this point than their fellowes as for example i Aduers Brent Petrus à Soto k In Catech cap. 5. Canisius l In Pan. lib. 4. cap. 100. in fine fabulae 6. Lindanus m Parte 3. Peresius and others reckon vp a iolly companie of traditions as namely the oblation of the sacrifice their annealing their praying to the dead and for the dead their primacie of Rome their hallowing of Fonts their fiue pretended Sacraments the Merits of Works their satisfactions their tallying vp of their sinnes to the Priest their worshipping of Images their set-fasting dayes their holy time of Lent their oblations for the dead their Peters being at Rome their real presence their halfe Cōmunion their reseruation and adoration their priuate masse their shrifts their satisfactiōs their indulgēces their purgatory their single life of Priests and such like of which they say like down-right Squiers that they are not grounded vpon the holy scripture and that by scripture they cannot bee defended and so saith this our Papist of most of them euen in n Sect. 5. this Dialogue and therfore howsoeuer they trouble vs with some few light-footed allegations of Scripture yet their owne consciences tell them that the Scriptures will faile them in all these seuerall questions Wouldest thou know then what remayneth to bee done Mary I will tell thee let all their rich Gluttons in hell or out of hell dead or aliue nay let the Diuell himselfe say and doe what they will or can yet we will and so doe thou follow the counsell of Abraham we will and so doe thou heare Moses and the Prophets as he teacheth vs and not such as will vs to repose our trust in vnwritten and vnsealed Traditions And here to passe ouer to the other point I promised to speake of let it please thee to remember who was the first founder of Traditions namely Papias a Chiliast whom o Hist eccles lib. 2. 15. lib. 3. 36. Eusebius calleth a publisher of Paradoxes and strange and fabulous doctrines an inconsiderate mistaker of the disputations of the Apostles and a man of small iudgement yet this is the man that layd the first stone of Peters being at Rome and so consequently of the Papall Primacie and where Peter a 1. Pet. 5.13 saith the Church that is at Babylon saluteth you this is the first that euer told vs that he means Rome a worthy foundation no doubt to build religion vpon and yet when he saith that Rome is Babylon he puts vs all in minde to b Apo. 18.2.4 come out of Rome the habitation of Diuels and the hold of all foule spirits and a cage of euerie vncleane and hatefull bird And here it is a world to see how the Papists labour to auoyd the force of this and such like Prophecies This say they must bee meant of the heathenish not of the Christian Babylon And I say againe it neither must nor can be so meant for who will yeeld that Saint Iohn should set downe that by way of Prophecie which was prophecied alreadie by c Cap. 7. Daniel long before either Saint Iohn was banished or Christ was incarnate Againe if happily Daniel be otherwise vnderstood why should the holy ghost speake of the Citie of Rome rather than Corinth Philippos Colosse Thessalonica great Cities of Greece or of Smyrna Pergamus Thyatira Sardis Philadelphia Laodicea to which d Cap. 1.4 the Reuelation is dedicated or the Citie of Ephesus where it is thought Saint Iohn was Bishop were not all these Cities as heathenish as Rome and better knowne to Saint Iohn so to be than Rome was What was Saint Iohn made a Prophet to speake against heathenish Rome which he neuer saw nor came neere to and no prophet at all to speake of the heathenishnes of so many Cities that hee had seen so often and was so well acquainted withall Moreouer if this might be yeelded vnto yet why should heathenish Rome be figured in the person of a gawdie scarlet coloured whorish woman and be counted the mother of all the filthinesse whoredomes and abhominations of the earth whereas indeed there was neuer a more manly and more continent gouernement in the world In the e Cap. 7. prophecie of Daniel the chiefe Kingdomes and Empires of the earth are described vnto vs by the names of Lions Beares and Leopards and stronge terrible and fearfull beasts with yron teeth nayles of brasse and shall we thinke that the most continent most iust most strong most terrible and couragious gouernment that euer was in the world should be compared by the holy ghost to a fine daintie Dame to a tender nice whore to a proud shamelesse whore that made open shew of the filthinesse of her Fornication No no this verie Booke of Saint Iohns Reuelation f Apoc 13 2. doth compare the Romane Emperor to a Leopard with Beares feet and a Lions mouth and the Papists themselues doe so vnderstand it And here obserue that beside the first beast which was like a Leopard there is another there spoken of which hauing two hornes like a lambe spake like a Dragon and did all the first beast could doe and more too