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A28149 The Saints freedom from tyranny vindicated, or, The power of pagan caesars and antichristian kings examined and they condemned by the prophets and apostles, as no magistrates of God to be obeyed by saints for the Lords sake : being the coppy of an answer to a private letter, wherein the civil power of Satan and antichristian states is soberly debated ... / by a lover of truth. A. B. 1667 (1667) Wing B29; ESTC R12371 31,204 42

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The People of England are the first Seat of Power with the People and to Rule by Law Therefore by the Civil Constitution of England The People are the first Seat of Power and the Kings of England have been as well bound by Oath to Govern by Law as the People are bound by Oath or Law to subject to Kings as Governours in Chief Partic. 5 Fifthly and lastly The Lords People in England have by the Light of the Gospel and brightness of Christs coming and 2 Thes 3. 3 4 8 with the smart of Heathenish and Antichristian Tyranny made great discoveries of the Man of Sin the Son of Perdition who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God Tyrannizing over their Souls and Bodys and now sighing and saying O Lord our God other Lords besides thee have had Dominion over us but now by thee only will we make mention of thy Name Isa 26. 13. Now for the Lords Remnant under and after all these Bonds and Engagements to God and one to another with experiences of Gods appearing for them for them to turn back to Egypt and Babylon and break Covenant with God and one with another For them again to set up what they had destroyed in Gods Name Spirit and Power and from which they were redeemed by so great Grace through many Prayers with the exhausting of so great Treasure and the price of so much Blood of Saints with others and again for those redeemed Souls to submit their Necks to the same Yoke of Tyranny this must needs be a sin of high nature and dreadfully provoking God SIR YOu were pleased to give your Understanding upon several Passages in that Paper which I willingly pass as loath to take up much of your time to read over my thoughts in every particular but if the Lord shall be pleased to bring to light more of his secret Will and our Duty in our Day this Labour will not be lost or this time meerly spent and it will be found both our honour and our Souls quiet to be witnessing for Christ against Antichrist however it goes with our outward man The 10th Month the 12th Day 1667. SIR SOme dayes after I had written my thoughts in what I judged then meet in return to yours I was under some conviction in my self that I had not fully explained my Understanding upon Rom. 13. 1 c. a Scripture which I had several times cited in a sence which some do not receive I am therefore humbly bold to add these Lines as a Post-script to the former I find it is the opinion of some men godly and learned That the Pagan Roman Caesars were and the Antichristian Kings are though idolatrous beastly bloody Tyrants the Magistrates and Ministers of God Constituted and Ordained and Invested by God with all Supream Authority in Civil affairs to rule over the Lords People and that the Saints are commanded by God to submit and subject to those Powers in their Bodies and Estates for the Lords sake and for Conscience sake This I humbly judge is Written Printed Preached and Professed c. It seems to me That the Old Testament the Law and Prophets which speak most of Political Government are yet silent in this point neither recording the time when the manner how or the words of Gods Commission and their Investment into such absolute Soveraign Authority over his People nor is there as I know or can be produced any one Text from the Old Testament where God by Moses or any of the Prophets commanded his People to submit to Pagan Roman Caesars or Antichristian Idolatrous Beastly bloody Tyrants as Gods Ordinance for the Lords sake or for Conscience sake But the proof of this Doctrine is taken out of the New Testament and two great Apostles of Christ Peter and Paul are made the only Fathers of this Opinion which I desire to examine The Rise and Original of the Pagan Caesars or the 4th Empire was first fore-shewed by the Prophet Daniel in these words After this I saw in the Night-Visions and behold a fourth Beast dreadful and terrible and strong exceedingly and it Dan. 7. 7. expounded v. 23. had great iron teeth it devoured and brake in pieces and stamped the residue with the feet of it And it was divers from all the Beasts that were before it and it had ten horns Here Daniel in his time described the fourth Empire whence it was vers 3. after what it was and how it acted in power and strength by Gods permission but not by Gods Institution and Commission that can be proved The Rise and Original also of Antichrist or the Antichristian State I take to be darkly represented by Daniel in the little ●a● 7. 8. vers 24 25 26 27. horn that came up among the ten horns of the Roman Empire or Roman Beast and how that acted also by Gods permission and how that Horn and Beast shall end But this Horn or Beast is shewed to the Apostle John and described fully Rev. 13. 1 2 c. which is generally taken to represent the Antichristian State Civil or Political The Rise of this Beast was out of the Sea and he had ten horns and upon his horns ten Crowns and upon his Heads the names of Blasphemy vers 1. The Dragon or the Devil gave this Beast his Power and his Seat and great Authority vers 2. And there was given him a mouth viz. to the Beast Antichrist speaking great things and Blasphemies vers 5. And he opened his mouth in Blasphemies against God to blaspheme his Name and his Tabernacle and them that dwell in Heaven vers 6. And it was given him to make war with the Saints and to overcome them vers 7. Now when the Original of Antichrist is thus plainly set out Note That his Power Seat and great Authority is from the Devil his work to Blaspheme God and his Worship and to make war with and overcome the Saints how unreasonable and unwarranted seems that Assertion which yet makes the Pagan Roman Caesars and Antichristian Kings to be Constituted Ordained and Invested by God with all Supream Magisterial Authority to rule over his People in Civil Affairs and that the Saints owe submission and subjection unto those Powers in their Bodies and Estates how intollerable bloody and tyrannical soever they be But to me there seems to be an unanswerable Argument couched against this vers 7. in these words And it was given him to make war with the Saints and to overcome them From hence I argue If in the rising State or under the Antichristian Civil State the Saints were in Arms lawfully upon their own defence against Antichrist in his Civil State and Antichrist overcame the Saints in war then the Saints had Civil Priviledges which they lawfully defended against Antichrist But under the Civil State of Antichrist c. Ergo. I will not follow this Argument as I might to prove it from the consent of Scriptures and History but