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A00333 Seven dialogues both pithie and profitable The 1 is of the right vse of things indifferent. 2 sheweth what comfort poperie affordeth in time of daunger. 3 is betweene a good woman and a shrew. 4 is of the conversion of a harlot. 5 is of putting forth children to nurse. 6 is of a popish pilgrimage. 7 is of a popish funerall. By W.B.; Colloquia. English. Selections Erasmus, Desiderius, d. 1536.; Burton, William, d. 1616. 1606 (1606) STC 10457; ESTC S121852 117,991 172

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euery day sing masse for his fathers soule in the Uaticane church and should take orders in the Laterane Church and euery friday should créepe vppon his knées vnto the crosse Mar. He did willingly vndergoe these things did he not Phae. I will not say crastily as Asses were wont to vndergoe their sackes The yonger sonne must be dedicated to St. Francis his elder daughter to Saint Clare and his younger to Saint Katharine This was all that could be obtained for Georges minde was to that end God might be the more mercifull vnto him to haue had those fiue that he left behind to be diuided amongst the fiu●… orders of Mendicants and the matter was laboured very hard but his wife and his eldest sonne would by no meanes be perswaded Mar. In what manner did he bestowe his inheritaunce Phae. All his liuing was so diuided that all the funerall charges being deducted twelue partes should go to his wife whereof the one halfe should be for hir maintenance the other to the place of hir abode from whence if she should vpon hir mind changing depart then al that part should go for euer to that parish another part to hir son who should haue some of it presently payd him to beare his charges going his iorny and remayning at Rome and he should haue sufficient besides to pay for his orders and dispensations But if he shoulde alter his minde and refuse holy orders then should his parte be diuided betwéene the Franciscans and the Dominicans which I feare he will loose the youth séemed so much to abhorre being a Priest Two parts should go to the Monasterie wherein his yonger son should be brought vp And two parts likewise to the Monastcries where his two daughters shuld liue but with this prouiso that if they would not professe that kind of life yet all their money should remaine whole and safe to their vse One parte was bequeathed to Bernardine and as much to Vincent and halfe a part to the Cartufians to be made partaker of all good works that should be done by their whole Order That which remained was to be giuen in secret to the poore Quos beneficio dignos iudicassent Bernerdinus Vincentius that is whom B●…rnardine and Vincent should thinke worthy of that benefit Mar. You should haue said as Lawyers do Quos vel quas that is he or she male or female And what was next Phae. Then they demaunded of the sicke man after they had rehearsed his Will in this manner George Gunner you being aliue and of perfect memorie do approoue this your last will and testament And he said I do approoue it It is your last and immutable will is it not He saide It is And you make me quoth Bernardine and this man Vincent Executors of this your last will He sayd I doe Then he was required to subscribe his name Mar. How could he doe that lying a dying Phae. Barnardine guided his hand Mar. What did he subscribe Phae. Saint Francis and Saint Dominicke be enemies vnto him that shall assay to alter any part of this will these things being thus done his wife and children gaue their right hands to the sicke man and were sworne to perform that which was giuen them in charge Then there was much adooe about the funerall solemnities At length this was concluded that of euery one of the fiue orders there should nine be present at his buriall for the honor of the fiue bookes of Moses and the nine orders of Angells Euery order should beare his Crosse and sing mourneful songs before the coarse Moreouer besides his kinred there should be thirty other mourners because for so many pence Christ was solde The taper bearers should be in mourning apparel and for honors sake they shoulde be accompanied with twelue mourners for this is the holy number of the Apostolike order after the coffin should his horse go in mourning apparel with his head tied so lowe to his knées that he should séeme as it were to require his maister of the ground The vpper cloth should be set here and there with his armes and in like manner euery torch and euery mourning garment should haue his armes And his body should be laid on the right hand of the hie Altare in a marble toombe which should hang ouer foure foote from the ground and his picture to lie vpon the top of it carued out in white marble from the crowne of the head to the sole of the foote hée should also haue his helmet with his crest his crest was a Swannes necke vpon his left arme was his buckler with his armes grauen vpon the same these were three wilde Boares heades ore in a field argent and vpon his side his sworde with a gilded hilt that should be fa●…ned to a gilt b●…lt set with gilt bosses and vpon his féete gilt spurres for he was a knight and vnder his féete a leopard And vppon the face of the Tom be was a title worthy of such a man And his heart he would haue layd vp by it selfe in Saint Francis his cell but his entra●…ls he bequeathed to the Priest of the Parish to be buried honourably in a chappel that was dedicated to our Lady Mar. Truely a very honourable funerall but very costly At U●…ice you shall see a Cobler haue more honour with lesse charge One company will giue a most excellent coffin and sometime you shall sée sixe hundred Monkes in their coates or cloakes accompany one man to his graue Phae. We haue séene also and haue laughed hartily at these foolish shewes that poore men will make there folow Fullers and Curriers before and Coblers behinde and Monkes in the middest a man would take them for monsters or chimny swéepers and this was no otherwise if you had séene it It was also prouided by George that the Franciscans and Dominicans should cast lots which of them should goe foremost in the funerall shew and that the rest also after them should doe the like for auoyding of tumult the parish priest and his clarkes should come last of all for the Monkes would haue it so Mar. He could order solemne sights aswell as armies Phae. Yea and this was also prouided that the solemne funerall which was to be kept by the parish priest should for honors sake be graced with alittle musicke Now whil●…st these things were thus in handling the sicke man grew very weak and gaue most euident signes that his time was come and so commeth the last acte of this storie now the bishops pardon was read vnto him whereby he was fréed from al his sinnes and from all feare of Purgatorie and besides that all his goodes were iustified and approoued Mar. What th●…se that were gotten by rapine violence and deceit Phae. Truely after the manner of the warres but by good happe there was present one Philip a Lawy●…r and his wifes brother He in the pardon noted a place otherwise put than it should haue béene and
natiue soile to another hill doth change his nature a little plant being plucked from his natiue earth doth hang downe his head and droope and in a manner die and therefore as much as lieth in men they neuer remoue them without their owne natiue earth about the rootes of them Fab. Yea but they say that plants remoued and new s●…t in other ground doe loose their wilde nature and bring forth more noble fruite Eut. True but they are not remoued presently good woman so soone as they are borne And this time wil come too one day if God wil that you must put forth your yong sonne abroad to be indued with learning and more 〈◊〉 kinde of gouernment or discipline which dutie doth rather belong vnto the father than to the mother but now his tender age is to be fauoured and cherished And further where as it maketh much to the health and strength of the bo●…y to s●… what manner of meate it be fed withall then is it a thing 〈◊〉 ●…o be regarded what iuyce that young and tender little body o●… the infan●… bée nourished withall For in this case it will prooue true which Horace sayeth Looke where-with the potte is once seas●…ed of that wil it smell a long time after Fa. For the body I take not so much care so that the minde may be such as we des●…re Eut. Truely your spéech hath m●…re pietie than Philosophie Fab. Why so Eu●…rap Then when you cut hearbes why doe you complaine that your knifes edge is blunt and command it to bée sharpened And why doe you refuse to sow with a dull néedle séeing that doth diminish nothing from your skill Fab. There wanteth not Art but a fit instrument Eut. Why doe they auoide Darnel and Onions which haue néede of a ●…harpe sight Fab. Because they hurt the eyes Eut. And is it not the minde that séeth Fab. Yes for they that haue no minde haue no sight and they that minde nothing sée nothing But what ●…an a workeman doe with a bad toole Eut. Then you confesse the body to be the instrument of the minde Fab. That is certaine Eut. And you also confesse that when the body is at fault the minde cannot worke or it worketh but vntowardly Fab. It is true that you say Eut. Goe to then me thinks now I haue gotten a pretty Philosophical wit Imagine therefore that the minde of a man might goe into the body of a dunghil cocke could it then vtter such a voice as now it doth Fab. No. Eut. What should be the let Fab. Because there are wanting lips and téeth and such a tong as we haue as also the wesel-pipe or flap of the throte there are also wanting the thrée gristles which are moued of the thrée muscles vnto which doe belong the sinewes that come from the braine neither hath a corke such ●… mouth and ●…awes as we haue Eut. What if the soule of man should goe into a swi●… body Fab. It should grunt like a swine Eut. What if it were in the body of a Camell Fab. It would cry like a Camell Eut. What if it were in the body of an Asse Fab. It would bray like an Asse Eut. Surely this did Ap●…leius a Philosopher of A●…hens confesse when he desired to call vpon Caesar though he drew his lippes together as much as he could yet hée could scarce sound O Caesar by no meanes could hee pronounce Th●… same Apuleius when hée desired to remember a tale that hée had heard hée desired to haue it written and hée condemned such an a●…se-headed conceit when he did sée whole hoofes Fab. And worthily Eu●…rapilus Therefore with eyes that runne or are blood-shotten the soule séeth worse than when the eyes ar●… cléere it heareth the worse when the eares are full of filth it smelleth the worse when fleame dooth possesse the braine it féeleth the worse when anie member is astonyed it tasteth the worse when the tongue is corrupted with ill humours Fab. It cannot be denied Eut. Onely because the instrument is corrupted Fab. So I iudge it Eut. Neither doe you deny but that for the most part it is corrupted by meate and drinke Fab. I grant it But what hurt doth this to a good mi●…e Eut. Therefore what doth Darnell to cleare eyes Fa. It corrupteth the eye which is the mindes instrument Eut. You answer rightly but tel me one thing What is the reason that one man hath a quicker v●…rstanding and a surer memory th●…n 〈◊〉 and that one is sooner angry and more moderate in his a●…ger than another Fab. Because the minde is so framed Eut. You shal not so carry it away What is the cause that he which was sometime of a quicke wit and of a rich memory doth afterward become forgetful and dull and that without blow without fall or disease or old age Fab. Now you séeme to play the Sophister with me Eut. Therefore on the other side doe you also play the Sophister and finde out my Sophistry Fab. I thinke this is your meaning that as the soule doth heare and sée by the eares and the eyes so by certaine organs or instruments it vnderstandeth and remembreth and loueth and hateth it is angry and pleased Eut. You coniecture right Fab. But after all this now what be those instruments and where be they Eut. You sée where the eyes be Fab. That is true and the eares too and nosthrills I sée and where the palate is I know and in all the whole body I sée there is a fellow-feeling vnlesse any member be benummed or astonied Eut. Though a foote be cut off yet the minde vnderstandeth Fab. It doth so although a hand be cut off Eut. But he that receiueth a sore blow vpon the temples of his head or in the nape of the necke falleth downe like a dead man and is voide of sense Fab. This haue I séene in my time Eut. By this you may perceiue that within the braine-panne doe lie the instruments of vnderstanding of will and memory which be not so grosse or thicke as the eares and eyes but yet material For asmuch as they be spirites which wee haue in our body that be most subtile and corporeall that is of a most thinne fine and tender substance Fab. And are these also corrupted by meates and drinks Eut. Uery much Fab. Why the braine is farre from the stomacke Eut. And so is the toppe of the tunnel of a chimney farre from the fire in the chi●…y but if you 〈◊〉 there you ●…hall féele a vapour Fab. I doe not meane to try E●…t But if you wil not credite me inquire of the Storks Therefore it is very materiall what spirites and vapours doe flie vp into the braine and instruments of the minde for if these b●… raw and colde they fall downe againe into the stomacke Fab. In truth now you describe vnto me the manner of a still by which wee receiue the iuyce of hearbe●… and ●…owers breathing or