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A09111 A treatise tending to mitigation tovvardes Catholike-subiectes in England VVherin is declared, that it is not impossible for subiects of different religion, (especially Catholikes and Protestantes) to liue togeather in dutifull obedience and subiection, vnder the gouernment of his Maiesty of Great Britany. Against the seditions wrytings of Thomas Morton minister, & some others to the contrary. Whose two false and slaunderous groundes, pretended to be dravvne from Catholike doctrine & practice, concerning rebellion and equiuocation, are ouerthrowne, and cast vpon himselfe. Dedicated to the learned schoole-deuines, cyuill and canon lavvyers of the tvvo vniuersities of England. By P.R. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1607 (1607) STC 19417; ESTC S114220 385,613 600

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know_v that_o he_o lie_v indeed_o egregious_o for_o that_o the_o canon_n begin_v thus_o item_n placuit_fw-la ut_fw-la praeter_fw-la scripturas_fw-la canonicas_fw-la nihil_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la legatur_fw-la sub_fw-la nomine_fw-la divinarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la sunt_fw-la autem_fw-la canonicae_fw-la scripturae_fw-la genesis_n exodus_fw-la etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d ludith_v hester_n machabaeorum_n libri_fw-la duo_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o have_v seem_v good_a to_o this_o council_n that_o nothing_o be_v read_v in_o the_o church_n under_o the_o name_n of_o divine_a scripture_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v canonical_a scripture_n in_o deed_n as_o be_v genesis_n exodus_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o two_o book_n of_o the_o maccabee_n tobias_n judith_n esther_n and_o the_o rest_n whereby_o we_o see_v that_o in_o allege_v these_o word_n that_o nothing_o be_v read_v in_o the_o church_n but_o canonical_a scripture_n be_v guylful_o