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A67284 A modest plea for infants baptism wherein the lawfulness of the baptizing of infants is defended against the antipædobaptists ... : with answers to objections / by W.W. B.D. Walker, William, 1623-1684. 1677 (1677) Wing W430; ESTC R6948 230,838 470

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