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baptism_n and_o in_o ordination_n as_o this_o make_v nothing_o to_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v essential_a unto_o either_o so_o it_o make_v nothing_o against_o it_o but_o in_o that_o such_o a_o blessing_n do_v then_o accompany_v it_o we_o may_v be_v assure_v that_o the_o use_n of_o it_o be_v of_o god_n and_o not_o from_o man_n 2._o there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o but_o of_o the_o gift_n of_o god_n which_o be_v in_o he_o or_o which_o he_o have_v by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o paul_n hand_n that_o may_v be_v mean_v of_o the_o power_n and_o authority_n confer_v on_o he_o or_o of_o the_o office_n itself_o for_o office_n be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d gift_n eph._n 4._o 8._o and_o power_n and_o authority_n be_v by_o many_o thought_n to_o be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d grace_n rom._n 12._o 3._o if_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n be_v the_o instrumental_a rite_n of_o convey_v the_o gift_n or_o grace_n in_o this_o sense_n it_o be_v the_o more_o necessary_a 3._o because_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v give_v by_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n after_o baptism_n in_o ordination_n and_o upon_o other_o occasion_n also_o therefore_o you_o will_v not_o easy_o prove_v that_o ordination_n must_v needs_o be_v understand_v in_o that_o place_n as_o you_o use_v to_o argue_v neither_o 4._o do_v act._n 19_o 6._o or_o any_o other_o place_n speak_v of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n in_o baptism_n and_o in_o heb._n 6._o 2._o baptism_n and_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n be_v distinguish_v as_o thing_n of_o a_o diverse_a kind_n in_o all_o this_o you_o seem_v rather_o to_o answer_v than_o to_o frame_v a_o argument_n to_o say_v the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v give_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n then_o but_o not_o now_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o essential_a be_v no_o proof_n as_o shall_v further_o appear_v hereafter_o 5._o under_o the_o old_a testament_n imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v use_v in_o divers_a case_n as_o first_o in_o blessing_n gen._n 48._o 14_o 20._o second_o in_o consecrate_v or_o set_v apart_o of_o a_o sacrifice_n unto_o god_n numb_a 8._o 12._o three_o in_o ordain_v or_o appoint_v unto_o a_o office_n as_o when_o joshua_n be_v appoint_v to_o succeed_v moses_n moses_n lay_v his_o hand_n upon_o he_o and_o give_v he_o a_o charge_n num._n 27._o 23._o joshua_n also_o be_v say_v to_o be_v full_a of_o the_o spirit_n of_o wisdom_n for_o moses_n have_v lay_v his_o hand_n on_o he_o deut._n 34._o 9_o he_o be_v full_a of_o the_o spirit_n of_o wisdom_n and_o therefore_o have_v hand_n lay_v on_o he_o as_o appear_v num._n 27._o 18._o take_v thou_o joshua_n the_o son_n of_o nun_n a_o man_n in_o who_o be_v the_o spirit_n and_o lay_v thy_o hand_n upon_o he_o as_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n the_o deacon_n be_v first_o full_a of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o wisdom_n act._n 6._o 3._o and_o therefore_o they_o have_v hand_n lay_v on_o they_o v._o 6._o this_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n be_v as_o ainsworth_n call_v it_o 18._o ainsworth_n on_o numb_a 18._o 18._o a_o sign_n of_o his_o call_v and_o ordination_n and_o though_o a_o great_a measure_n of_o the_o spirit_n may_v be_v give_v with_o the_o sign_n yet_o that_o be_v not_o the_o only_a ground_n of_o use_v it_o we_o read_v not_o of_o any_o law_n require_v the_o use_n of_o it_o constant_o save_v in_o the_o case_n of_o consecrate_v and_o yet_o you_o show_v no_o reason_n to_o the_o contrary_a why_o it_o may_v not_o be_v necessary_a under_o the_o gospel_n in_o the_o set_n apart_o of_o a_o meet_a person_n to_o a_o holy_a function_n though_o every_o other_o kind_n of_o use_v it_o be_v not_o necessary_a whereof_o we_o have_v example_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n all_o end_n of_o use_v it_o do_v meet_v together_o in_o ordination_n as_o blessing_n consecrate_v and_o set_v apart_o unto_o a_o office_n and_o therefore_o we_o have_v the_o great_a reason_n to_o continue_v it_o still_o to_o that_o of_o the_o divine_n of_o scotland_n the_o apostle_n indeed_o by_o the_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n 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as_o a_o rite_n of_o design_v a_o fit_a person_n to_o a_o office_n in_o the_o church_n because_o no_o reason_n can_v be_v suppose_v for_o the_o use_n of_o it_o in_o that_o kind_n then_o which_o hold_v not_o in_o other_o age_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o regular_a and_o ordinary_a state_n thereof_o solemn_o to_o design_n and_o point_n out_o the_o person_n ordain_v as_o a_o moral_a sign_n be_v one_o of_o the_o end_n and_o use_n whereunto_o this_o rite_n of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n be_v appoint_v by_o themselves_o as_o chemnitius_n show_v these_o last_o be_v the_o word_n of_o your_o own_o testimony_n in_o the_o same_o page_n
that_o which_o follow_v of_o your_o own_o be_v something_o extraordinary_a its_o likely_a be_v in_o the_o apostle_n lay_v on_o of_o hand_n for_o he_o say_v the_o gift_n be_v give_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o my_o hand_n as_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o prophecy_n which_o be_v peculiar_a to_o extraordinary_a officer_n but_o it_o be_v but_o with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o they_o it_z seems_z have_v but_o a_o bare_a concurrence_n but_o the_o efficiency_n be_v in_o paul_n as_o our_o brethren_n of_o scotland_n express_v it_o to_o which_o i_o answer_v 1._o all_o this_o be_v but_o its_o likely_a and_o it_o seem_v by_o which_o its_o likely_a to_o prove_v nothing_o and_o it_o seem_v you_o yourself_o see_v as_o much_o aforehand_o 2._o to_o say_v there_o be_v something_o extraordinary_a in_o the_o apostle_n lay_v on_o of_o hand_n be_v ambiguous_a because_o it_o may_v relate_v either_o to_o the_o ground_n or_o manner_n of_o do_v or_o to_o the_o effect_n or_o accidental_a consequent_a thereof_o there_o may_v be_v something_o extraordinary_a but_o that_o can_v be_v no_o prejudice_n to_o the_o ordinary_a use_n of_o this_o rite_n unless_o they_o â—ad_v only_o some_o extraordinary_a ground_n for_o their_o use_n of_o it_o 3._o in_o compare_v 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o 〈…〉_o 4._o 14._o there_o be_v indeed_o a_o difference_n between_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈…〉_o â—nd_v with_o and_o from_o thence_o the_o papist_n and_o prelate_n woâ—â—â—â—fer_v that_o the_o efficiency_n of_o timothy_n presbyteratus_n be_v iâ—_n paul_n as_o in_o a_o bishop_n and_o in_o the_o presbytery_n by_o a_o bare_a concurrence_n and_o thence_o infer_v the_o necessity_n of_o a_o bishop_n unto_o ordination_n but_o this_o be_v equal_o vain_a as_o in_o they_o to_o one_o end_n so_o in_o you_o to_o another_o for_o that_o in_o 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o you_o may_v remember_v what_o be_v say_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o answer_n to_o your_o three_o and_o as_o you_o tell_v we_o pag._n 17._o touch_v lay_v on_o of_o hand_n in_o 1_o tim._n 5._o 22._o that_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o be_v understand_v of_o ordination_n because_o it_o be_v use_v in_o other_o case_n so_o may_v it_o be_v put_v off_o here_o but_o be_v it_o grant_v that_o ordination_n be_v intend_v in_o 2_o tim._n 1._o yet_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o paul_n ascribe_v any_o thing_n to_o himself_o as_o exclude_v the_o presbytery_n junius_n speak_v to_o this_o text_n say_v in_o a_o common_a thing_n the_o argue_v from_o position_n of_o one_o to_o the_o remove_n or_o deny_v of_o another_o be_v inconsequent_a as_o after_o this_o manner_n paul_n lay_v hand_n on_o timothy_n therefore_o the_o presbytery_n do_v not_o a._n not_o junius_n in_o bel._n cont._n 5._o lib._n 1._o cap._n 3_o be_v 5._o 1_o tim._n 1._o 18._o ac._n 16._o 1_o a._n those_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o prophecy_n do_v show_v the_o move_a cause_n and_o what_o encourage_v paul_n 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what_o miracle_n and_o wonder_n god_n have_v wrought_v among_o the_o gentile_n by_o they_o in_o the_o greek_a it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o this_o latter_a place_n but_o in_o all_o the_o rest_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o yet_o the_o like_a thing_n viz._n what_o god_n do_v by_o they_o as_o by_o instrument_n be_v intend_v in_o they_o all_o the_o reason_n why_o the_o apostle_n use_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o may_v be_v because_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d go_v immediate_o before_o in_o the_o same_o verse_n in_o that_o phrase_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o it_o have_v another_o sense_n than_o the_o next_o word_n will_v bear_v if_o it_o have_v be_v use_v there_o also_o how_o fit_v it_o will_v have_v be_v for_o the_o word_n to_o have_v run_v thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n by_o prophecy_n by_o lay_v on_o of_o hound_n let_v the_o learned_a judge_n 5._o if_o the_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d paracle_n p._n 228._o other_o for_o a_o company_n of_o rule_v elder_n as_o well_o as_o other_o eng._n pop_v cer_n p._n 171._o some_o understand_v it_o of_o a_o congregationall_a presbytery_n as_o the_o nonconformist_n against_o 93._o see_v the_o answ_n to_o bp._n downham_n serm_n p._n 93._o downham_n and_o the_o scot_n against_o tilenus_n some_o of_o a_o classical_a provincial_n presbytery_n as_o the_o london-minister_n ans_fw-fr 1._o you_o shall_v do_v well_o to_o let_v we_o know_v your_o own_o judgement_n whether_o we_o shall_v repute_v you_o prelatical_a brownist_n anabaptist_n independent_a erastian_n seeker_n sceptic_a or_o whether_o you_o understand_v it_o of_o a_o conclave_n of_o cardinal_n will_v you_o have_v it_o a_o cypher_n to_o signify_v nothing_o or_o ad_fw-la placitum_fw-la what_o mean_v this_o pretend_v of_o ambiguity_n where_o there_o be_v none_o you_o can_v but_o perceive_v that_o most_o of_o these_o opinion_n fall_v into_o one_o against_o 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both_o together_o or_o either_o apart_o â—o_o bind_v every_o christian_n to_o preach_v public_o as_o he_o conceive_v himself_o to_o be_v able_a though_o he_o be_v no_o officer_n i_o say_v to_o bind_v for_o the_o apostle_n speaâ—â—â—ot_v of_o a_o liberty_n which_o we_o may_v use_v or_o disuse_n but_o of_o a_o duty_n which_o we_o must_v perform_v the_o duty_n of_o preach_a lie_n upon_o none_o but_o upon_o those_o that_o be_v call_v the_o ordinary_a regular_a way_n of_o call_v be_v by_o ordination_n to_o all_o which_o be_v produce_v pag._n 18._o concern_v prophet_n and_o prophesy_v and_o use_v of_o gift_n out_o of_o 1_o cor._n 12_o 7_o 8_o 9_o 10_o 11._o 1_o cor._n 14._o 3_o 39_o i_o answer_v summary_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o all_o order_n officer_n or_o member_n of_o the_o church_n above_o minister_n may_v preach_v as_o well_o as_o they_o whether_o ordain_v or_o unordain_v â—â—_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n and_o prophet_n for_o prophet_n such_o as_o be_v under_o the_o new_a testament_n they_o be_v always_o place_v next_o unto_o the_o apostle_n and_o before_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n 1_o cor._n 12._o 28_o 29._o act._n 13._o 1._o yea_o before_o the_o evangelist_n eph._n 4._o 11._o in_o the_o primitive_a time_n there_o be_v many_o such_o yea_o many_o in_o one_o church_n or_o at_o antioch_n and_o corinth_n whether_o these_o be_v ordinary_a or_o extraordinary_a it_o be_v easy_a to_o judge_v by_o the_o continuance_n or_o discontinuance_n of_o they_o in_o the_o church_n in_o after-age_n and_o at_o present_a if_o there_o be_v any_o so_o gift_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n above_z ordain_v person_n that_o they_o be_v worthy_a to_o take_v place_n of_o they_o and_o of_o evangelist_n let_v they_o by_o all_o mean_n have_v the_o liberty_n of_o their_o gift_n and_o their_o proper_a denomination_n i_o think_v ordinary_a minister_n shall_v give_v they_o the_o right_a hand_n both_o of_o fellowship_n &_o place_n as_o for_o any_o kind_n of_o prophet_n or_o prophesy_v in_o the_o public_a congregation_n below_o minister_n and_o their_o ministry_n there_o be_v none_o to_o be_v find_v in_o any_o enumeration_n of_o scripture_n either_o in_o rom._n 1â—_n 1_o cor._n 12._o or_o ephes_n 4._o where_o we_o be_v most_o like_a to_o find_v it_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v still_o with_o i_o resolve_v that_o the_o prophet_n and_o prophesy_v which_o we_o read_v of_o in_o 1_o cor._n 14._o be_v extraordinary_a he_o that_o believe_v three_o kind_n of_o prophet_n under_o the_o new_a test_n let_v he_o distinguish_v they_o but_o of_o these_o thing_n more_o particular_o and_o at_o large_a when_o the_o lord_n give_v time_n and_o strength_n one_o write_v for_o preach_v without_o ordination_n and_o may_v upon_o the_o same_o ground_n have_v add_v without_o election_n another_o for_o preach_v by_o he_o whâ—_n be_v not_o call_v to_o be_v a_o minister_n ordination_n be_v think_v to_o be_v thâ—_n weak_a part_n but_o call_v be_v the_o thing_n strike_v at_o yet_o i_o be_o not_o much_o solicitous_a about_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o call_v that_o have_v a_o strong_a promise_n to_o support_v it_o to_o the_o â—nd_n of_o the_o world_n 〈…〉_o i_o humble_o offer_v my_o part_n in_o the_o answer_n follow_v some_o note_n belong_v to_o the_o treatise_n hereafter_o answer_v omit_v by_o the_o printer_n add_v therefore_o pag._n â—1_n lin_v 13._o to_o the_o margin_n budaeus_fw-la h._n steph._n thes_n p._n 35._o l._n 4._o thes_n ling._n grae._n novum_n usum_fw-la huic_fw-la verbo_fw-la tribuere_fw-la p._n 38._o l._n 16._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apud_fw-la eustach_n thes_n lin_v gre._n tom_n 1._o 1732._o c._n &_o 17â—7_n e._n carthwr_n in_o act._n 14._o 23._o p._n 29._o l._n penult_n these_o word_n shall_v have_v be_v setdown_o at_o large_a quicunque_fw-la ad_fw-la docendum_fw-la idoneus_fw-la eligitur_fw-la &_o voco_fw-la suffragio_fw-la &_o voce_fw-la ecclefiae_fw-la be_v verus_fw-la est_fw-la verbi_fw-la minister_n siquidem_fw-la vocatio_fw-la &_o electio_fw-la legitima_fw-la facit_fw-la ministrum_fw-la ordinatio_fw-la verò_fw-la est_fw-la illius_fw-la vocationis_fw-la declaratio_fw-la coram_fw-la coete_n ecclesiae_fw-la sicut_fw-la non_fw-la coronatio_fw-la facit_fw-la regem_fw-la sed_fw-la electio_fw-la coronatio_fw-la verò_fw-la est_fw-la soleâ—nis_fw-la duntaxat_fw-la renâ—nciatio_fw-la &_o declaratio_fw-la regis_fw-la aegid_a hun._n contra_fw-la assert_v arturi_fw-la vocatio_fw-la propriè_fw-la &_o essentialiter_fw-la consistit_fw-la in_o electione_n ames_n case_n cons_n l._n 4._o c._n 25_o sect_n 28._o ordinatio_fw-la seu_fw-la consecratio_fw-la nihil_fw-la alind_a est_fw-la quà m_fw-la legitima_fw-la electio_fw-la voet._n p._n 267._o errata_n in_o the_o marg._n of_o the_o answer_n pag._n 3._o for_o essentiaam_n read_v essentiam_fw-la p._n 5._o debeat_fw-la r._n debet_fw-la p._n 6._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 17._o l._n 29._o mancipitur_fw-la r._n mancipatur_fw-la lin_v 32._o ligere_fw-la r._n eligere_fw-la p._n 18._o l._n penult_n saltem_fw-la r._n solum_fw-la p._n 10._o l._n 13_o after_o praeire_fw-la enim_fw-la add_v debent_fw-la lin_v 14._o cum_fw-la r._n cor_fw-la l._n 25._o essensum_fw-la r._n assensum_fw-la p._n 34._o &_o dominus_fw-la r._n ut_fw-la dominus_fw-la p._n 44._o in_o stead_n of_o the_o word_n there_o find_v in_o the_o beginning_n read_v thus_o omnes_fw-la illi_fw-la actus_fw-la qui_fw-la pertinent_a ad_fw-la vocationem_fw-la vel_fw-la tendunt_fw-la ad_fw-la electionem_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o the_o answer_n itself_o pag._n 9_o lin_v 1._o after_o et_fw-la add_v pro._n l._n 9_o after_o that_o be_v add_v in_o p._n 9_o l._n 29_o for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 11._o l._n 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 25._o l._n ult_n comitur_fw-la r._n committitur_fw-la p._n 34._o l._n 13._o after_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d blot_v out_o often_o p._n 66._o l._n 9_o porrectione_n r._n porrectionem_fw-la p._n 77._o l._n 1._o for_o to_o â—abylon_n r._n of_o babylon_n a_o answer_n to_o the_o tract_n bear_v title_n the_o judgement_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n and_o protestant_a divine_n concern_v ordination_n lay_v on_o of_o band_n in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n etc._n etc._n the_o word_n of_o the_o treatise_n be_v here_o set_v down_o without_o add_v alter_v or_o abridgement_n ordination_n be_v take_v common_o for_o a_o act_n of_o minister_n or_o elder_n after_o examination_n and_o election_n the_o answer_n 1._o in_o the_o common_a acception_n of_o the_o word_n ordination_n include_v examination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o be_v not_o a_o single_a act_n but_o a_o complicate_v so_o as_o all_o be_v to_o be_v take_v in_o which_o belong_v to_o the_o ordainer_n for_o the_o solemn_a fieri_fw-la solemn_a solenne_fw-fr est_fw-fr quod_fw-la solet_fw-la fieri_fw-la constitute_n or_o set_v apart_o and_o make_v of_o he_o to_o be_v a_o minister_n who_o be_v none_o before_o ordinatio_fw-la apostolica_fw-la triplici_fw-la actione_n constabat_fw-la primus_fw-la act_n erat_fw-la praparatorius_fw-la scil_n jejunium_fw-la secundus_fw-la preces_fw-la tertius_fw-la manuum_fw-la impositio_fw-la nico._n hunnius_n demonstratione_n minist_n lutheran_n p._n 271._o 2._o whether_o the_o word_n minister_n or_o elder_n be_v to_o be_v take_v here_o disjunctive_o or_o exegetical_o be_v uncertain_a because_o they_o be_v sometime_o take_v for_o the_o same_o and_o sometime_o for_o several_a sort_n of_o church-officer_n that_o minister_n alone_o may_v ordain_v without_o other_o elder_n when_o the_o presbytery_n be_v not_o integrate_v be_v a_o receive_a opinion_n but_o how_o elder_n who_o be_v no_o minister_n may_v act_v in_o ordain_v be_v disputable_a 3._o as_o for_o election_n and_o examination_n whether_o you_o suppose_v they_o here_o as_o the_o act_n of_o minister_n or_o elder_n or_o of_o the_o people_n antecedent_o i_o know_v not_o nor_o what_o kind_n of_o election_n you_o mean_v for_o there_o be_v divers_a kind_n 1._o by_o way_n of_o desire_n with_o submission_n or_o reference_n 2._o by_o way_n of_o acceptance_n or_o acquiescence_n 3._o by_o way_n of_o choice_n out_o of_o many_o to_o pitch_v on_o one_o 4._o by_o way_n of_o creation_n which_o be_v by_o choose_v to_o make_v one_o what_o he_o be_v not_o before_o ordination_n suppose_v no_o election_n on_o the_o people_n part_n but_o that_o which_o be_v by_o way_n of_o desire_n with_o submission_n and_o reference_n this_o may_v precede_v the_o act_n of_o ordain_v but_o be_v not_o simple_o necessary_a in_o all_o case_n election_n by_o way_n of_o creation_n be_v include_v in_o ordination_n and_o be_v not_o far_o from_o the_o formal_a reason_n of_o it_o that_o minister_n and_o elder_n may_v ordain_v none_o de_fw-fr jure_fw-la in_o any_o state_n of_o the_o church_n or_o in_o any_o case_n but_o those_o who_o the_o people_n do_v vide_fw-la council_n laodicâ—num_fw-la can_v 5._o the_o substance_n and_o essence_n of_o
lord_n give_v leave_v harm_n eng._n pag._n 253._o &_o 254._o the_o augustane_n confession_n art_n 14._o concern_v ecclesiastical_a order_n they_o teach_v that_o no_o man_n 16._o de_fw-fr ordine_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la docent_fw-la quod_fw-la nemo_fw-la debeat_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la publicae_fw-la docere_fw-la auâ—_n sacramenta_fw-la administrare_fw-la nisi_fw-la rite_n vocatus_fw-la sicut_fw-la &_o paulus_n praecipit_fw-la tito_n ut_fw-la in_o civitatibus_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la constituat_fw-la corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 1._o p._n 16._o shall_v public_o in_o the_o church_n teach_v or_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n except_o he_o be_v right_o call_v according_a as_o st._n paul_n give_v commandment_n to_o titus_n to_o ordain_v elder_n in_o every_o city_n harm_n eng._n p._n 258._o the_o latter_a conf._n of_o helvetia_n chap._n 18._o furthermore_o no_o man_n ought_v to_o usurp_v the_o honour_n of_o the_o 59_o nemo_fw-la autem_fw-la honorem_fw-la ministerii_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la usurpare_fw-la sibi_fw-la i._n e._n ad_fw-la se_fw-la largitionibus_fw-la aut_fw-la ullis_fw-la artibus_fw-la aut_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la proprio_fw-la rapere_fw-la debet_fw-la dâ—mnamus_n hic_fw-la omnes_fw-la qui_fw-la fua_fw-la spoâ—â—â—_n currunt_fw-la cum_fw-la non_fw-la sint_fw-la electi_fw-la missi_fw-la nec_fw-la ordinaâ—â—_n corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 1._o pag._n 59_o ecclesiastical_a ministry_n that_o be_v to_o say_v greedy_o to_o pluck_v it_o to_o he_o by_o bribe_n or_o any_o evil_a shift_n or_o of_o his_o own_o accord_n we_o do_v here_o therefore_o condemn_v all_o those_o which_o run_v of_o their_o own_o accord_n be_v neither_o choose_v send_v nor_o ordain_v harm_n engl._n p._n 236._o the_o conf._n of_o wirtemberg_n art_n 20._o neither_o be_v it_o unknown_a that_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n have_v 164._o nec_fw-la est_fw-la obscurum_fw-la qd_n christus_fw-la instituerit_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la sva_fw-la ministros_fw-la qui_fw-la adnâ—ncient_a evangelium_fw-la suum_fw-la &_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d we_o establish_v the_o law_n and_o the_o septuagint_n who_o luke_n be_v observe_v to_o follow_v most_o use_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o as_o much_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1_o chron._n 9_o 22._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d these_o do_v david_n and_o solomon_n appoint_v in_o their_o set_a office_n ans_fw-fr this_o great_a show_n of_o something_o come_v to_o nothing_o for_o grant_v that_o the_o simple_a and_o compound_a word_n have_v sometime_o for_o always_o they_o have_v not_o the_o same_o signification_n yet_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o they_o have_v the_o same_o sense_n in_o the_o text_n allege_v as_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o have_v be_v say_v already_o the_o action_n of_o the_o hundred_o and_o twenty_o in_o appoint_v two_o out_o of_o which_o god_n be_v to_o choose_v one_o be_v not_o of_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o god_n appoint_v one_o because_o neither_o of_o the_o two_o be_v make_v apostle_n by_o the_o former_a act_n but_o one_o 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priest_n be_v a_o mere_a nullity_n because_o the_o priesthood_n iâ—_n self_n be_v so_o but_o their_o ordination_n adonus_fw-la presbyterii_fw-la to_o preach_v and_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n be_v of_o another_o nature_n and_o therefore_o these_o must_v not_o be_v confound_v together_o the_o rather_o because_o in_o their_o manner_n of_o ordain_v they_o be_v real_o distinguish_v romanum_fw-la distinguish_v vide_fw-la pontisicale_n romanum_fw-la 2._o though_o some_o of_o our_o divine_n deny_v a_o lawful_a ministry_n and_o call_v thereunto_o to_o be_v in_o the_o roman_a hierarchy_n as_o *_o beza_n and_o sadeel_n not_o as_o make_v of_o it_o to_o be_v simple_o invalid_a and_o null_a but_o extreme_a sinful_a yet_o they_o must_v not_o be_v interpret_v too_o rigorous_o unless_o we_o mean_v to_o set_v protestant_n at_o variance_n among_o themselves_o to_o our_o own_o prejudice_n and_o that_o 1._o because_o the_o lutheran_n do_v maintain_v the_o ordinary_a call_v which_o luther_n have_v in_o 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lawful_a call_v sec_fw-la 28._o pag._n 60._o to_o your_o second_o inconvenience_n that_o then_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o spouse_n of_o christ_n i_o answer_v 1._o it_o follow_v not_o because_o in_o a_o false_a church_n there_o may_v be_v something_o true_a 2._o many_o protestant_a divine_n be_v not_o afraid_a to_o grant_v that_o in_o some_o sense_n it_o be_v a_o true_a church_n so_o at_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v not_o extinct_a in_o rome_n neither_o do_v the_o ministry_n altogether_o perish_v there_o prâ—â—_n there_o â—â—a_fw-la ut_fw-la sicut_fw-la non_fw-la penitus_fw-la extiâ—cta_fw-la ibi_fw-la suis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sic_fw-la neque_fw-la penitus_fw-la interitrit_a ibi_fw-la miniâ—terium_fw-la zanch._n iâ—_n 4_o prâ—â—_n 3._o this_o objection_n be_v so_o full_o answer_v by_o all_o our_o writer_n of_o this_o subject_n against_o the_o papist_n that_o it_o be_v not_o worth_a the_o while_n to_o transcribe_v they_o vide_fw-la voetium_n quo_fw-la supra_fw-la 4._o those_o who_o be_v common_o call_v brownist_n be_v sufficient_o zealous_a against_o rome_n and_o yet_o even_o among_o they_o the_o more_o moderate_a part_n as_o johnson_n and_o his_o follower_n do_v not_o only_o grant_v that_o the_o society_n common_o call_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v a_o true_a church_n without_o all_o fear_n of_o inconvenience_n but_o labour_n at_o large_a to_o prove_v it_o 215._o it_o christian_n plea_n by_o fran._n johnson_n print_a anno_fw-la 1617._o hom_n pag._n 119._o â—â—_o 215._o the_o more_o rigid_a of_o they_o who_o deny_v that_o which_o he_o grant_v as_o robinson_n and_o ainsworth_n yet_o acknowledge_v that_o in_o rome_n there_o be_v some_o true_a ordinance_n as_o baptism_n for_o instance_n and_o in_o grant_v the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n with_o those_o of_o rome_n to_o be_v valid_a and_o yet_o deny_v the_o church_n to_o be_v true_a they_o must_v needs_o reject_v your_o consequence_n as_o the_o lord_n have_v his_o people_n in_o 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