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sonne that so many as beleeue in him should not perish but haue euerlasting life In this worlde externally hath for our sakes sent out the Aungels to minister Preseruation Heb. 1 14. internally hath giuen vs the spirit of adoption whereby wee crie Abba father Sanctification Rom. 8 15 16. the same spirite beareth witnesse with our spirit that wee are the children of God Glorification 1. Cor. 2.9 against the world to come hath prepared for vs the things which eye hath not seene neither eare hath heard neither came in-the heart of man Sonne Being bound by so many bonds to the seruice of God Assurance that God inthroneth Caesar a great motiue to allegiance I should euer most willingly serue Caesar if it would please you to shewe some proofe that Caesar is enthroned by God Father Proofe of that doth the scripture shewe both by plaine testimonies Double profe that God in throned Caesar Plaine testimonies And those bee affirmatiue Wisd 6 23 and euident arguments By plaine testimonies and that both affirmatiuely and negatiuely affirmatiuely So saith the Wiseman Giue eare ye that rule the multitudes glorie in the multitude of the people for the rule is giuen you of the Lord and power by the most high vncreated wisdome by me kings raigne Prou. 8.15 and princes decree iustice The prophet He taketh away kinges Dan. 2 21. Rom. 13 1 Or negatiue hee setteth vp kings the Apostle The powers that be are ordained of God Negatiuely So Christ to his disciples Math. 10 29 Not a Sparrow falleth to the ground without your father So Christ to Pilate Iohn 19 11 Rom. 13 1.2 euident arguments Thou couldest haue no power at all against me except it were giuen thee from aboue So Saint Paul There is no power but of God Sonne These euident testimonies be sufficient proofes but yet what I beseech you be the other arguments Father His spirit altering their hearts 1. Sam. 10.9 1. Sam. 16.19 His spirite altering their hearts Soone after Saul was anointed king God gaue him another heart From the day that Samuel anointed Dauid the spirit of the Lord came vpon Dauid His eyes securing their thrones Iob. 36.7 Their end Rom. 13.6 The title he taketh of them to himselfe Psal 10.16 The title he giueth them with his own mouth Psal 82 6. His direction of their hearts tongues and hands His eies securing their thrones His eies are with kings in the throne where he placeth thē for euer thus they are exalted Their ende beeing to do him seruice They are Gods ministers applying themselues for the same thing The title that he taketh from them to himselfe The Lord is king for euer and euer The title he with his own mouth giueth to them Ego dixi not any creature in heauen or earth but the Creator of heauen earth he saith I haue said ye are Gods The kings heart is in the hand of the Lord he turneth it whensoeuer it pleaseth him In the kings heart is the will of God Prou. 21.1 Prou. 16.10 2. Chro. 19.9 in the kings mouth is the decree of God in the signing of the kings hand the iudgements of God Sonne More cleare is it then the light Obiection Answere Euill Of Crime Of Paine Euill of crime is not of God Hee needeth it not Gen. 17.1 He forbiddeth it 1. Iohn 3.4 He licenceth no man to do it Ecclus. 15.20 He hateth all that cōmit it Psal 55. Heaccurseth it Deut. 28.15 He seuerely punisheth it The Impenitent hee eternally cōdemneth for it Math. 25.41 that all good princes are of God but since euery euill prince is so great an euill so great a plague how can he be of God who is the onely spring from whence all goodnesse flow Father There is an euill of Crime and an euill of paine the euill of crime is sinne the euill of paine is the punishment of Sinne. The euill of crime is not of God God béeing all sufficient doth not need it It is the transgression of the Lawe therefore he doeth forbid it hee commaunded no man to doe it neither gaue hee any man a licence for it hee hateth all them that commit it he accurseth it he I call to witnesse Adam thrust out of Paradise the olde world drowned with the floud Sodom and Gomor flaming with fire the Sonne of God for the sinnes of men giuing vp his Ghost vpon the Crosse seuerely punisheth it and in the impenitent he eternally condemneth it The euill of Pain is of God Esay 45.7 Amos. 3.6 A good King cometh from the right hand of Gods mercie An euil king from the left hand of Gods Iustice Hosea 13.11 For the sins of the people hee suffereth the hipocrite to raigne Iob. 34.30 2. A good King to fal 2 Sam. 24.1 1 Cron. 21 1. 3. Chaungeth Kings Prou. 28.2 4. Punishe Prince people 1 Sam. 12.25 ● Bringeth euill from the good Prince vpon the euill The euill of Paine is the punishment of sin and this is throwne from the Throne of God vppon the heads of wicked men I sayth the Lord forme the light and create darknesse I make peace and create euill the Prophet of the Lord shall there bee euill in a Cittie and the Lord hath not done it As a good Kinge commeth from the right hand of Gods mercie so an euill King from the left hande of Gods Iustice Sometimes for our sinnes hee giueth an euill Kinge I gaue thee a Kinge in mine anger he maketh the Hipocrite to raigne for the sinnes of the people for the sinnes of the people he suffereth a good King to fall Israell hauing sinned against God God suffered Sathan to put into Dauids heart the numbering of the people for the sinnes of the people hée changeth Kinges for the transgression of the Lande there are many Princes thereof For the sins of Prince and people God punisheth the Prince and people If ye doe wickedly ye shall perish both yee and your Kinge If thou béest euill euill shall come to thée from him though hee bee good for he is the Minister of God to take vengeance on him that doth euill Rom. 13.4 Titles of euill princes shewe thē to be Instruments of gods Iustice Since therefore euerie Prince both good and bad is of God therefore calleth hee Ashur the Rod of his wrath the staffe in their handes his indignation therefore calleth he Nabuchodonozor king of Babell his seruant Esay 10.5 Rodde of his wrath Ieremie 27.6 seruant Esay 45.1 annointed Flagellum Dei Ira Dei 1 Peter 2.18 therfore calleth hée Cyrus his Annointed therefore I take it did Attila call him selfe Gods scourge and Themir-cuthclu vulgarly Tamberlaine himselfe the wrath of God as Peter commaundeth seruants to bee subiect to their Maisters with all feare not onely to the good and courteous but also to the froward so I aduise all Subiects to bée subiect to their Princes with al feare not
Aduice to the yong yet fit for all Not Sauls wickednesse not Dauids deserts nor any other motiue could seduce Dauid to indaunger Saul Vpon my blessing let not thy heart euer hereafter entertaine such a thought nor thy eare heare much lesse thy tongue speake such a worde Yet for this time let thy selfe all with thy selfe learne of Dauid a man according to Gods owne heart To whom better might it be done then to Saule for who wickedder then Saule Saule wicked to God whose expresse commandement by turning to the pray he transgressed 1. Sam. 15.3.19.9 vers Not secret and hidden was his wickednes but open and apparant 1. Sam. 15.26.27.28 Samuel sharply reprooued him God reiected him and by a manifest signe shewed hee had reiected him 1. Sam. 16.14 an euill spirit sent of the Lord vexed him who might do it better then Dauid Dauid deserued well of the people and Countrey by slaying Goliah 1. Sam. 17.24.50.51 the Philistine the terrour of the whole Countrey deserued well of Saul 1. Sam. 19.5 not onely for this publike seruice to him and his Countrey but also for that other priuate 1. Sam. 16.23 in easing him of the euill spirite Who better then Dauid 1 Sam. 18.5 hee was accepted in the sight of Saules seruants all Iudah and Israel loued him 1. Sam. 18.7 the verie women honoured him with Tenne Thousand for Saules one Thousand Dauid no ordinarie subiect Dauid was set ouer the men of warre went in and out before the men of Israel and Iudah fought the Lords Battailes 1. Sam. 18.27 was the Kings sonne in law was annoynted King by Samuel 1. Sam. 16.12 at the commandement of God himselfe And how was Dauid prouoked not his wife alone taken awaye but his life sought not in woorde but in déede not by some flight blow to giue him a scarre but by a mortall wound to take away his life and this by no enemie but by his owne Soueraigne by his owne Father in law By his owne Soueraigne by his owne Father in lawe whome his owne hand saued from the open enemie eased from the euill spirite not by the bribed or enforced seruice of so base Cut-throat but by the violence of the Kings owne hand Not in a Fray in the field but by the throwing of a speare when he was playing on the Harpe to ease Saule of the euill spirit In perill he put him not once 1. Sam. 18.10.11 in perill he put him often his former seruice was forgot the mediation of a Sonne for a Sonne in lawe to a Father would not serue the slaughter of the innocent Priests would not satisfie his bloudie minde 1 Sam. 20.32 33. the time of absence though time deuoreth al things coulde not aswage his furie his furie being so great that Dauids sauing of his life 1. Sam. 24.5 7. when he had him in the Caue coulde not quench the flame of it but his bloud spared by Dauid he still persisteth to seeke the bloud of Dauid so that he liuing Dauid was still in daunger to die hee dead in all apparence Dauid was sure to raigne hee was againe closed into Dauids hand Dauid néede not touch him 1. Sam. 26.8 Abishai desires but leaue that hee might smite him snite him hee would but once to make him sure not any mans bloud but his alone néed be shed that this was done either in his presēce or by his consent 1 Sam. 26.7 who could make report since this was in the night and that it might séeme that God himselfe fauored him in this Action 1 Sam. 26.12 God sent a dead sleepe vppon them If then thou wilt know Dauids minde in this matter from his owne mouth heare his prohibition his resolution 1 Sam. 26.9 10 11. His prohibition his question and his prayer his prohibition Dauid will not onely not act it but hee will not permit it and therefore to Abishais offered seruice there is this charge returned Verse 9. Destroy him not Question if Abishai should take this for an ouer-sight His Question here is reason to satisfie him Who can lay his hand on the Lords annoynted Ibidem and bee guiltlesse No man so good no Prince so bad no cause so great that can dispence with violence offred to the Lords annoynted His resolution testified by an oath not by the mercie of God which the desperate feele not nor the Iustice of God which the Libertine feareth not nor the prouidence of God whervpon most wicked men relie not nor the Omni-presence of God which the offenders remember not but by the life of God which the heauens aboue vs setting forth his glorie Psa 19.1 the ayre about vs dayly infected and dayly purified the sea aside vs at his commaundement staying her proude waues the earth beneath vs Iob. 38.11 so huge a masse firmely fixed in the midst of the ayre our soules and our selues for wee are his generation doe proclaime Acts 17.28 by this life of God doth he testifie his resolution 1. Sam. 26.10 that where many thirst for reuenge Dauid will take no reuenge whereas many wicked children bee ●●●ks of the father for a little wealth Dauid woulde not the death of his father in lawe for the Crowne Many a man hath taken armes against his soueraigne for his owne safetie for his owne safetie Dauid will not assaile his Soueraigne but taking Gods prouidence for his shéeld vsing praier for armour saying in heart with Christ Shall I not drinke of the cup that my father hath giuen me faith the Lord shal smite him or his day shal come to dy or he shall discend into battaile perish His prayer the Lord knoweth ●●ine infirmities least iniurie mooue mee ambition puffe● mee his inflexibilitie driue mee my owne safetie drawes mee oportunitie intice t● mee fonde fréends incense me the Lord keepe me from laying mine hand vpon the Lordes annoynted Iohn 18.11 Sam. 26.10 His resolution 1. Sam. 26.11 His Inuocation 2 Sam. 1.10 Will yet any man doe its here ye heare what he said to Abishai hereafter sée what he did to the Amalekite though the Amalekite brought him the Crowne from Saule his head and the Braflet from his arme After he had not clapt his handes for ioy 2 Sam. 1.11.12 but rent his cloathes for greefe after hee had not reioiced and laughed but mourned and lamented after he had not feasted but fasted mindfull of that in the Psalme Psal 105.15 2. Sam. 1.14 Touch not mine annointed he saith How wast thou not afraid to put foorth thine hand to destroy the anoynted of the Lord To kill a priuate man it is death to kill a Prince it is more then death to kill a man is death because he is the Image of God Gen. 9.6 to kill a Prince though it be euen Saul it is more then death Psal 105.15.25 for hee is the
doing the will of God from the heart will much more that subiects shall so serue their Soueraignes Hee knoweth the imagination of the thoughts of our heartes and vnderstandeth al imaginations of thoughts 1. Chro. 28.9 will haue an inquisition made for the thoughts of the vngodly Wisd 1.9 and if thou wilt not heare him curse not the king no not in thy thought God both Wisd 20.1.3 hee from whome wicked thoughtes doe seperate will haue it reuealed for the fowles of the heauen shall carrie the voice And threatneth the reuealing of treacherous thoughts and that which hath wings shal declare the matter Sonne How can the fowles of heauen carrie a voyce how can that which hath winges declare it or any man discouer the thoughts of our hearts Father Examples of secret sinnes reuealed Acts. 5.2.3 Dan. 13.45 46 54.58 2. Pet. 2.26 Hee who shewed to Saint Peter the secrete compact of Ananias and Saphira he who raised vp the holy spirit of a yong childe to cleare Susanna and conuict the wicked Iudges he who caused the dumbe Asse speaking with mans voyce to forbid the foolishnesse of the Prohhet he who discouered Bessus his Paracide by the chattertng of Swallowes Plutarch he can cause euerie foule of heauen and euerie creature vpon the earth to reueale and reuenge our mutinous Wisd 5.17 20 flaunderous sedicious and impious thoughts against Caesar Sonne To him that hath not denied the power of godlinesse it is inough that God hath forbid vs to curse the king in our thought to euerie beleeuer it is inough that God hath foretold the declaring of such thoughts to euery one that is not an open Infidell it is inough that he neede not go farre for an informer If they with Michal despise Dauid in their heerts Michals thought vttered by her owne tongue their owne tongues sometimes with Michals vtter it O how glorious was the king of Israel this day which was vncouered to day in the eyes of the Maydens of his seruants as a foole vncouereth himselfe and with her And punished by Gods hand 2. Sam. 6.20.23 for this crime receiue punishment at the handes of God Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child vnto the day of her death Yet pardon mee though I desire to know whether mans law forbid euill thoughts of Caesar Father The lawes of men for common crimes punish onely wordes Both the ciuil and common law punish treacherous thoughts with death 13. Eliz. 1. and deedes but for this point of high treason if any man hath thought it though hee neuer attempted it the lawe both Ciuill and Common doth punish him with death Sonne But was there euer such a president seene The law in this point when where executed Father Neither farre hence nor long since neede we looke for such a president That Norman Gentleman who confessed to a Franciscan Frier that he had a thought to kil Frances the first of France though he had changed his minde repented and asked pardon of that crime yet the Frier reporting it to the King and the King referring it to the Parliament of Paris the graue court of that great Parliamēt though that king shewed himselfe very gracious condemned him to death Yea so great detestation is there to bee had of the least shew of violence to the prince that whereas the law excuseth madde men from punishment Madnesse excuseth not the shew of violence to the Prince madnesse it selfe being so great a punishment yet when Capito a man raging mad drew his sworde vpon Henrie the sonne of king Frances hee was therefore executed Sonne Since to offend Caesar euen in the thoughts of my heart it is prohibited and punished both by God and man how may my heart be preserued from wicked thoughts against Caesar Father The custodie of the heart is the preseruatiue of the tongue and whole bodie As hee that woulde haue a streame sweet wholsome wil haue care that the spring bee kept from poyson and all corruption so if thou wilt haue the words of thy tongue and the works of thy hande to sauour nothing but pure alleagiance then must thou of necessitie first see that the thoughts of thy heart bee pure from this venemous infection That thy thoughts may be pure from al corruption thy heartmust bee puryfied and kept Purifying of the heart necessarie in respect of originall corruption Gen. 8.21 daungerous polution 1 Cor. 5.6 and a fearefull Wisdom 1.4 assertion Ieremie 4.14 What purifyeth our harts Iames. 2.19 Acts. 15.9 and how Reuel 1.5 Sonne How is that done Father By purifying thy heart By kéeping thy heart Sonne Needeth my heart purifying Father In regard of the originall corruption in regard of the dangerous polution in regard of a fearefull assertion I say with Ieremie O Ierusalem wash thine heart from wickednesse that thou mayest be saued how longe shall thy wicked thoughtes remaine within thée Sonne What is that gift of God which purifyeth our hearts Father Faith not euerie Faith for the Diuels also beléeue and tremble Faith puryfieth the heartes for being the hand of the soule it apprehendeth applyeth vnto vs Iesus Christ who hath washed vs from our sinnes in his bloud Sonne What helpes bee there for the confirmation of our Faith Helpes hereof bee and purifying our hearts Father Prayer the word the Sacraments Prayer Psa 51.20 Prayer and therefore pray with Dauid Create in me a cleane hart O God and renew a right spirit within me Iohn 15.3 The word The word Now sayth Christ are ye cleane through the word which I haue spoken vnto you Iam. 1.23.25 The word as a glasse The word helpeth to purifie as water it helpeth to purifie as a glasse as a glasse it sheweth our corruptions as water it serueth to wash away our corruptions Prou. 13.14 As water helpeth to purify the heart The Sacraments 1. Mac. 6.34 The heart 1. Cor. 6.19 of a christian the holy of holyes Hence Integritie 16. in vs. Sacraments shewing the Lordes death till he come as the bloud of Grapes and Mulberies prouoked the Elephants to fight purifie our hearts and prouoke vs to fight against all corruptions that can come Sonne Must wee bee verie carefull of this Father If thy body be the Temple of the holy Ghost then must thy heart bee Sanctum sanctorum the holy of holyes Hence good in thée if the roote be holy so are the braunches if thy heart be cleane so will thy tongue so will thy handes Hence fauours on earth hee that loueth purenesse of heart Fauours on earth Prou. 22.11 for the grace of his lippes the Kinge shal be his friend Hence glorie in Heauen Math. 5.8 Felicitie in Heauen Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God Sonne So hath this of the puryfying of the heart rauished my heart that I desire for the keeping of my heart to be also
heauenly Father doe vnto you Math. 18 35. except ye forgiue from your hearts each one to his brother their trespasses If euer thou hast in thought offended that which Peter to Simon Magus for his Simoniacall Aduice to all Acts 8 22. Who haue offended in disloyall thoughts I to thée for thy disloyall intent do say Repent of this thy wickednesse and pray God that if it bee possible the thought of thy heart may be forgiuen thee Sonne Your instruction for the thoughts of my heart finished my next suit is that you would next giue me instruction for the words of my tongue Father Seditious thoughts like an inwarde maladie Seditious words worse then seditious thoughts bee hurtfull to the heart wherein they rest therfore are they to bee auoyded but seditious words like a contagious disease do infect others therefore are they more to be abhorred But if thy heart be good thy spéech saith Socrates wil shew like a Temple excellent similitudes of thy soule as Christ said Out of the good treasure of thy hart thou wilt bring forth good things Matth. 12 35. If at the presence of Iob who was as a king in the land of Hus Iob. 29.10 and his friends as Princes the voice of Princes was hid and their tongue cleaued to the roofe of their mouth shal the voyces of meane persons breake out against their Caesar Examples of reuerence in speech 1. pet 3.6 Gen 31.35 Act. 26.24 25 If Sara speaking to her husbande Abraham gaue him the title of sir If Rachel speaking to her father Laban called him Lord If Saint Paul conuented before a Pagan President and told by him that too much learning made him mad replyeth O noble Festus if to king Agrippa he for honor sake in that six and twentie Chapter be found six times to haue giuen the title of King Iames. 1.19 The Canon of the Apostles Natures work manship Dauids resolution Psal 39.1 Iames. 3.9 The end of the tongue The reward of him that vseth it well Ecclus. 21.28 Our proanesse to fall by it Iames. 3.2 Ecclus. 14.1 The difficulty of reclaiming it who can speake of so high maiestie without giuing thereto honour If I call to mind how Saint Iames hath willed euery man to be slow to speake If I consider how nature hath compassed my tongue with a double ante-mure one of my lippes another of my teeth If Dauids resolution I will take heed to my waies that I sin not with my tongue If the end of this member to blesse God the reward of him that well vseth it Hee that keepeth his tongue and is discreete shall come to honour our proannesse to fall by it he that falleth not in this Saint Iames calleth him a perfect and the Sonne of Sirac a blessed man the difficultie of reclaiming it the whole nature of birds and of beasts and of creeping thinges Iames. 3.7.8 The Treasure which he keepeth that keepeth it Prou. 13.3 Esay 6.6 7. The Author of the euill tongue Iames. 3.6 The scituation Ibidem The damage which it doth Iames. 3.5 The name thereof not a Rod. Psal 57.4 A sharp sword Ecclus. 28.17 Iames. 3.6 Fire and thinges of the sea is tamed and hath beene tamed of the nature of man but the tongue can no man tame it is an vnruly euill what he kéepeth that kéepeth it he that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life the Author not as the Prophets by a blessed Seraphin with a coale from the Aulter of God but by the wicked spirit It is set on fire of hell For the scituation so is the tong set among the members that it defileth the whole body the hurt which it doth behold howe great a thing a little fire kindleth Shall I call it a Rod An euill tongue is called a sharpe sword not a Rod for the stroake of the rodde maketh markes in the flesh but the stroke of the tongue breaketh the bones but because the sword cutteth no more then at once it toucheth the Apostle calleth it fire which goeth on further still burning and consuming The psalmist a poyson Adders poyson Psal 140.3 Adders poyson Iames. 3.8 the Apostle full of deadly poyson which goeth on still further infecting and enuenoming but poisō enuenometh not fire consumeth not but thinges néere hand that they touch but the tongue back-biteth him that is farre absent from vs Ieremie 9.8 and therefore Ieremie calleth it an Arrowe An arrowe shot out not an arrow in the quiuer for then it would not hurt but an arrow shot out 2. Sam. 1.22 and so it will slay The Bow of Ionathan neuer turned backe 1. Sam. 2 2.9 10 18 19. some tongues be so bent as they will neuer turne backe the bowe or arrowe of Ionathan kils one at a shot but the tongue of Doeg 1. Sam. 51.3 at a shotte besides women Children Sucklinges Oxes 2. Sam. 16.7 Asses and shéepe killed 85 persons that were a linnen Ephod The Archers of the Philistines wounded Saule but because they were enemies but the tongue of Shimei wounded Dauid the one being a Soueraigne the other a Subiect Shimeis tongue wounded Dauid when hee was abroad fléeing wéeping his head couered his féet bare his people about him mourning his enemie raigning but is there any tongue that will that dare that can wound Dauid being within the priuie Chamber of his owne Court tryumphing blessing God for deliueries his head crowned his féet of all true harts honoured all true Subiects reioycing and giuing thankes to God who blesseth Dauid and them in Dauid enemies at home abroad by the watchfull prouidence and mightie hand of the Lord detected and confounded Is there such a tongue is there such a tongue in all Israell Is there such a tongue in all England that tongue is neither Rod nor sword nor poyson A seditious tongue no Rod no sword no poyson no fire nor fire nor arrowe nor arrow shotte out nor arrow of Ionathan nor arrow of the Philistines nor shotte of Doeg nor tongue of Shimei whome neither holy Dauid dying nor wise Salomon raigning thought méete to bee pardoned but hell it selfe Nay But Hell it selfe Eccus 28.21 heare not me heare Iesus the Sonne of Sirac Hell sayth hee were better then such a one Hath any man such a tongue and yet goeth for a Christian and yet séemeth to be religious The seditious tongue doth but counterfeit Religion Iames. 1.26 The badde tongue worse then a theefe Let him heare S. Iames If any man among you seemeth religious and refraineth not his tongue but deceiueth his owne heart this mans Religion is vaine Oh howe wicked then is a had tongue how wicked be Theeues but Theeues sayth Saint Ambrose be more tollerable then the badde tongue Théeues take away our riches but a badde tongue taketh away out good name which in the iudgement of Salomon Prou. 22.1 Iohn 1.34 is to be chosen aboue great riches O