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A75768 Ishmael, and his mother, cast out into the wilderness, amongst the wild beasts of the same nature: or, a reply to a book entitulled, The scriptures proved to be the word of God, put forth by one of Ishmaels children, who calls himself a minister of the Gospel, and a pastor of S. Austins and Savours parish in Norwich; but is clearly made manifest by the light of God in his servants, to be a scoffer, and an enemy to the Gospel, which the saints of God are ministers of, and sufferers for, by such as hee is, who Ishmael-like, hath laid his folly open, and is discovered to the faithful, who are of Abraham, and of the seed of promise. Also, a cleer distinction between the minsters of Christ, who are of the seed of Abraham, and the priests of this generation, who are of Ishmaels root; who with the truth are plainly made manifest, by the light of Christ in us, who for the testimony of God do suffer by the sons of Hagar, and this generation of priests in Notwich [sic]: ... / Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in us that do suffer in the goal of Norwich for the truths sake, ... Christopher Atkinson, George Whitehead, Iames Lancaster, Thomas Simonds. Atkinson, Christopher. 1655 (1655) Wing A4127; Thomason E830_3; ESTC R207430 13,494 15

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ISHMAEL And his MOTHER Cast out into the WILDERNESS Amongst the Wild Beasts of the same NATURE OR A Reply to a Book entitulled The Scriptures proved to be the word of God put forth by one of Ishmaels children who calls himself a Minister of the Gospel and a Pastor of S. Austins and Savours Parish in Norwich but is clearly made manifest by the light of God in his Servants to be a scoffer and an enemy to the Gospel which the Saints of God are Ministers of and sufferers for by such as hee is who Ishmael-like hath laid his folly open and is discovered to the faithful who are of Abraham and of the seed of Promise ALSO A cleer distinction between the Ministers of Christ who are of the seed of Abraham and the Priests of this generation who are of Ishmaels root who with the Truth are plainly made manifest by the light of Christ in us who for the testimony of God do suffer by the sons of Hagar and this generation of the Priests in Norwich Given forth for no other end but that the truth may be cleered from such as scoff and deny it Given forth from the Spirit of the Lord in us that do suffer in the Goal of Norwich for the truths sake which is persecuted and slandered by the Priesis and Rulers of this City VVhose names in the flesh is Christopher Atkinson George Whitehead Iames Lancaster Thomas Simonds London Printed for Giles Calvert at the black Spread-Eagle at the West end of Pauls 1655. A bundle of papers being brought unto our hands by one of the chiefe Priests of Norwich which he hath rak't up in his imaginations against the harmless people called Quakers and being full of lyes and deceit we are moved of the Lord for the truthes sake to cleare the truth from his lyes and deceit and false accusations and to lay him and his two propositions as hee calls them open unto the simple minded who have been bewitched and deceived by such deceivers and blind guides as he is and put forth by one Sampson Townsend who calls himself a Minister of the Gospel and a Pastor of Saint Austins Savours Parish in Norwich Priest THE Title of thy confused papers is The Scripture proved to be the word of God as also the only foundation of faith and rule of our obedience or a clear conviction of the errors of the quakers who blasphemously affirm that the Scriptures are not the word of God nor the foundation of Faith nor yet the only rule of our obedence to which lyes and falshoods we are moved to answer Answer THe Scriptures proved to be the word of God is false and one of the blind deceitful imaginations which thousand thy generation hath deceived people with telling them that that is the word which saith that God is the word who made himself manifest in the dayes of old before the Letter was which word was Moses rule who wrote forth Scripture and not the Letter but the word which word by which Moses was guided to speak forth Scripture and this is that word the Prophets prophesied of which dwelt amongst us which was before the world was and seen before the Letter was written now with the same life and power by which the Scripture was spoken do we challenge thee to prove such a Scripture as saith that it is the word of God thou that would make people believe that the Letter is the foundation would make void the foundation upon which the Prophets and Apostles were builded which spoke forth the Letter and thou that would build upon the Letter hateth the Light and the Foundation which is Christ from which the letter was spoken and thy foundation and thy rule and obedience is tryed with it and by it thou art judged now that which is convicted by thy ayrie spirit is like unto thy selfe and is to be scorched up as the bryars but the children of light who are of God and in the truth cannot be convicted by such as thou art who from the light of God in thy Conscience is departed and with it art to be coudemned so with the word and the life by which the Letter was declared thou art seen and comprehended to be an enemy unto that from which the Scripture was declared and here again I challenge thee to be a perverter of it notwithstanding al thy prosession from it and whereas thou hast directed this confused paper unto us of whom thou hast described the names as followeth to Christopher Atkinson Iames Lancaster George VVhitehead and Thomas Simonds now in Norwich Goale for their Errours and Miscarriages Priest Thou sayest if ever the truth of God were turned into a lye it is by us thou sayest that deny the Scriptures to be the Truth of God and pretend immediate Revelations to be our rule for our actions and canst not produce any proofe but the words of a dead man like thy selfe which thou calls Mr. Burroughs to which we answer Ans By thee Priest Townsend is the truth of God turned into a lye thou art taken with one in thy mouth who saith that we before mentioned are in the Goal of Norwich for errors and miscarriages here thou slanderer we challeng thee to prove what errors or miscarriages can be laid to our charge what is thy lyes and slanders that which you would make the people believe and are we counted deceivers for declaring the Truth and testifying against thee and thy generations as it is counted an error in us to unvail thy deceits and lay thee open to all men here in the presence of the Lord do we declare against thee for errors and miscarriages do we deny and this thy confused stuff wherein fyrst thou sayest that we deny the Scripture to be the truth of God which is a lye as thy own words makes it manifest who in the same page of thy shamelels discourse which now is laid open to the understanding of the Simple Priest And again thou sayest that we atknowledg the Scripture to be the truth and yet deny them to be the word of God here let all that sees thy confused paper judge thee who art in Babel where the confnsion is and a minister of it Ans The Scripture we own as it was spoken forth by them that lived in the word and receive it as a Declaration of God and of what he spoke unto them of former ages Luke i. i. but thy words and imaginations we do deny who would call that the word which saith God is the word and that the light which is not the light but saith Christ is the light which is thy condemnation that hates it in particular and the worlds condemnation that hates it in generall as is made manifest who hates revelations and us who witness it shutting thy selfe forth from the Scriptures and from them that gave them forth whereas Christ saith no man knows the Father but the Son and to whom the Son wil reveal him