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A86419 The fallacy of infants baptisme discovered. Or, Five arguments, to prove that infants ought not to be baptized. Delivered in private by Captain Hobson, who should that day (with Master Knowls, and some others;) have discussed the thing in publike with Master Callamy, and Master Cranford, &c. And now published for the benefit of those that seeke the truth in love. Hobson, Paul.; S. S. 1645 (1645) Wing H2272; Thomason E311_18; ESTC R200461 11,696 23

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THE FALLACY OF INFANTS BAPTISME DISCOVERED OR Five ARGUMENTS to prove that INFANTS ought not to be baptized Delivered in private by Captain HOBSON who should that day with Master Knowls and some others have discussed the thing in publike with Master Callamy and Master Cranford c. And now published for the benefit of those that seeke the truth in love Col. 2.23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdome in will worship Isai. 1.12 Who hath required this at your hands LONDON Printed in the yeer of Discoveries 1645. To the courteous Reader READER I Who am one that waits upon Truth desiring to know Truth but am not to be considered under any of those names of distinction as a member of any Independent Congregation or one that they call an Anabaptist but a friend to them and others so far as they are one with the Truth I having by a providence had an oportunity to hear one Captain Hobson with two Ministers more in private who should have disputed in publike with Master Callamy and some others about the point of Baptisme having taken the heads of what Captain Hobson delivered and conceiving that the good which I received by it should engage me to communicate it to others I was therefore willing to put it forth in print But I desire you Christian Reader that you would consider that it is but the heads of what hee delivered as I tooke it from him in short-hand and therefore if there be any broken expressions in it attribute it not to him but to me who am not so well skild as in understanding so in writing Syllogismes which I understand he was enjoyned so to speak had he spoke in publike and he seemed to be willing to speake in private as he should have done there There was two Ministers more who exercised also whose arguments were worthy the printing could I have taken them so as to bring them out but not taking of them so perfectly I was loath to dishonour that truth that I believe was in them My desire is that neither I nor you may so look upon this under the consideration of that division that seems to be amongst men of Presbyterians and Anabaptists and Separatists but that these names of distinction may bee laid down and that we may all as sonnes of Truth try every thing by the rules of Truth and love each other in truth which I know is that which would put an end to that great confusion and trouble that I see abroad And I hope when you have read this you will see as well as I that we have for a long time been led in blindnesse taking that upon trust which now I see is contrary to Scripture even Infants Baptisme So desiring you to passe by infirmities in it and make a good construction of it I leave you to Truth desiring you not to have any prejudiciall thoughts against him that spake it notwithstanding any infirmities you may see in him that writes it Yours in the Lord Jesus S.S. THE FALLACY OF INFANTS Baptisme discovered Dearest Freinds SEeing a providence hath brought us together at this time I shall therefore endevour according to the intent of our meeting to declare my selfe and so declare my selfe that I may not only answer your expectations but directly our intentions in speaking to the point in hand which this day should have been discussed in publike But seeing a providence hath prevented us and wee who thought to have been in publike are now prevented by the Civill Magistrate whom wee much honour and with all willing Subjection are willing to Obey in all things that crosse not the LORD JESUS CHRIST And truly here is that which stayes our spirits though wee were willing to declare our Judgments in publike to the view of Many Yet if GOD will have it other wayes herein is our joy That the Truth knowes how best to make out it selfe And it God by our Silence will cause Truth to speake Wee rejoyce Or if the time is not yet come to have things brought to a publike View Wee desire to wayte upon God knowing that his time is best to make out Truth to the Sons of men But before I addresse my selfe to what I intend to speake I desire that you would give mee leave to speake to two or three things First To desire you not to thinke it strange that not onely one but two or three should speak to one and the same thing Secondly That you would not think it strange for us to trade so much in the shadow in breaking up the shell and not a little to trade in the kernell My meaning is that wee should speake so much of the outward Ordinance and not enter into the unfolding of the sweet and glorious mystery of God in Christ wrapt up in the Ordinance which is the Life as of the Ordinance so of Saints while they are observing it Thirdly I desire that you would not thinke it strange for mee to speake to you contrary to my wonted practice which I shall at this time doe onely speaking in a Syllogisticall way for the truth is I shall here endeavour to declare my selfe in private as I did intend to declare my selfe in publike and the same grounds I intended to lay downe in publike I shall lay downe here Against the Baptizing of Infants And the reason of my speaking Syllogistically is because it was an Injunction laid upon us so to speake had we met in publike But before I come to lay downe my Reasons I shall take a portion of Scripture and draw a Conclusion which Conclusion shall be as a Ground from whence I purpose to build all my following Discourse the Scripture is MATTH. 28.20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you IN the words there are these two things considerable An Exhortation And a sweet Direction The Exhortation doth arise from the words considered in reference to the words before Verse 19. Go●e therefore and teach all Nations The Direction in these words Teaching them to observe Whatsoever I have commanded you In the Exhortation if we had time we might observe First The Party exhorting that 's Christ Secondly The Parties exhorted That was the Disciples or Apostles who were taught of Christ Thirdly The matter exhorted to Go teach From all which you may observe this Conclusion That it is the duty of all those who are taught of Christ to declare to other what they enjoy from Christ But this is not that which I intend to build my following discourse upon Therefore I passe it over And I come to the Direction in which we may observe First The Party directing Secondly The Parties directed And Thirdly The Direction it self Firt The Party directing That 's Christ Secondly The Parties directed That is the Aposles on the Disciples in this word Ye And Thirdly The Direction it self in these words Go and teach them to observe whatsoever I have commanded you That which I shall