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A01148 The conuersion of a most noble lady of Fraunce In Iune last past, 1608. Madame Gratiana, wife to the high and mightie lord; Claudius, Lord of Tremoille; Duke of Thouars; peere of Fraunce, and Prince of Talmonde. A most Christian epistle, written by her, to the ladyes of Fraunce, to resolue them in the cause of her conuersion from popery, to the the profession of Gods Gospell: and aduising them to imitate her religious example. Truely translated out of French. Tremoille, Charlotte Brabantina, Duchess of, 1580-1631.; Munday, Anthony, 1553-1633. 1608 (1608) STC 11262; ESTC S102563 29,611 56

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according to the verie words vsed by the Priest may be caried by the hands of his holy Angell into the high Altar before Iesus Christ As if Iesus Christ himselfe had forsaken Heauen stood in neede to be caried thither againe and by the hands of an Angell O honorable Ladies what a blasphemie is this against him that hath all power subiected vnder his feete and sitteth for euer at the right hand of God his Father Also in the Priests Memento for the dead he prayeth for them that alreadie are sleeping in the very height of peace that God would giue them a place of peace refreshing But to what purpose is this when the parties are possessed of such a peacefull place alreadie why should they mooue any such place afterward in vaine There are many other things louing Madames the collection whereof would be very tedious vnto you and which you may see very learnedly confuted ech point by point in the Booke which I shewed you at our last meeting called the Anatomie of the Masse printed for your more easie vnderstanding in our owne language more then thirtie yeares since and neuer all this while answered by the contrarie side But come we now to the especiall point concerning the confidente and peruerse opinion wherein I my selfe haue sinned too often and which you hold as no meane Article of faith That the Masse is a worke meritorious to cancell all our sinnes Ex epere operato as themselues vse to say Which is as much to say as that by the vertue of that worke the labour is performed without making mention of his faith and repentaunce for whom the Masse is sayd and is therein assisted Heereby you may perceiue good Ladies that the efficacie of the death of Iesus Christ whereof by true faith we are all made pertakers is now attributed to a work done by man yea may as wel be applied to the dead as the liuing By which means the Sacraments shall but profit them only which communicated in true saith and repentaunce But then this cannot be spoken thus of them that are deceased and departed out of this world because they haue no more communion with the liuing whereby to participate of their Sacraments As for the Sacrifice of Iesus Christ that is saith the Apostle through faith in his bloud which makes vs partakers of the propitiation thereby obtained Now the dead can haue neither faith nor repentaunce but are gone as they placed before the end of their faith either for the saluation of their soules or to be punished in hell for their incredulitie Iouerslip a great many blasphemies which deserue ech one to be seuerally spoken of For you haue tolde me that some things you giue credit to and others you doe not especially any thing which you conceite to be damnable But you being heerein gouerned only by your Priests opinions you hang your selues on their sleeues and are neuer the neerer when you shall come to make your account And your excuse concerning those prayers which they sing or say in their Masse that they are in Latine and you vnderstand them not but beleeue them to be good and holy Trust me worthy Ladies it is idle and friuolous for you ought to vnderstand them and may if you will thereby to examine and trie the spirits whether they be of God or no. You haue them published in printed bookes and so haue had for many yeares together And the Scriptures themselues remaine for your further instruction which though they forbid you the reading of them yet be you rulde by him that saith Search the Scriptures it is they that doe beare true witnes of me But leauing all other there is one most signall and apparant and such a blasphemie whereof I knowe you are almost daily partakers being present at Masse For both common opinion and intention as well of the Priest himselfe as the persons there in place doe run in this current That it is an absolute sacrifice which is there performed by him wherein all remission of sins is to be sought for and all prosperitie as well of the bodie as of the soule For they auouch it to be the selfe same sacrifice of Iesus Christ which they but renew againe to receiue a further fruite thereby and so they reiterate the same as often as they doe either sing or say Masse euen according as it was done vnder the Lawe But what saith the blessed Apostle to this The law hauing the shadow of good things to come not the very image of the things can neuer with those sacrifices which they offer yeere by yeere continually sanctifie the commers thereunto And it is imposisible that the bloud of Bulles and Goates should take away sinnes For would they not then haue ceased to haue bin offered because that the offerers once purged should haue had no more conscience of sins This is then the reason wherfore euery Priest appeareth daily sacrificing oft times offereth one manner of thing which can neuer take away sinnes But this man after he had offered one sacrifice for sinne sitteth for euer at the right hand of God And wherefore one sacrifice only Because saith he in the verse following that by that alone sacrifice he hath consecrated for euer them that be sanctified There is nothing deare Ladies more cleare and euident then these words of the holy Apostle to manifest openly That the sacrifice of Iesus Christ whereby we were once for all redeemed and sanctified cannot neither ought to be reiterated or renewed Therefore in Poperie when they doe enterprise to reiterate or renew or continue the same for they make vse of all these seueral tearmes is it any thing else but a meere renouncing of that only sacrifice remaining fresh in full strength and vigour which Christ once offred vpon his Crosse to sanctifie all beleeuers And the fruite heereof is daily presented to vs in the preaching of the Gospell and we reeeiue the same by a true sanctified faith in him only For to this end was the sacred ministerie of Gods word instituted by God himselfe in his Church and not for any nouell order of sacrifices as your soules heauie enemies doe make you to beleeue I knowe honorable Ladies and haue had such particular interest in some of you during the time of our often conuersing in this manner together that in hart you are far off from these grosse prophanations and haue assured me in soule you doe much greeue thereat Let me then perswade you not to come in such places where the Sonne of God is so highly iniuried be not led by their outward appearaunce of deuotion which serues but to beguile and abuse the simple Euen as is vsed in our ceremonie of meeting and manner of courtship in the streetes or else where a good looke is giuen or an affable conge allowed when falshood and trechery lurketh oftentimes in the hart Make
Masse Now we say that this is a very great outrage and wronge done to our Lord Iesus Christ and to his true sacrifice First of all in transferring to mortall men or communicating to them the dignitie of his supreme Priesthood we woonder by what authoritie or allowance this should be done For the whole bodie of the Scripture declareth plainly to vs That he is the eternall sacrificer according to the order of Melchizedeck yea and that in such sort As he is the only Priest of that order and permitteth not the receipt of successors or Vicars For as concerning the sacrificers of the Law there were made many to succeede one after another Because they were not suffered to endure by the reason of death But this man saith the Apostle to the Hebrewes because he endureth for euer hath an euerlasting Priesthood Which needed not daily as those high Priests under the Law to enter the holy places yearely with other bloud first for his owne sinnes and then for the peoples Otherwise it had bin needfull for him to haue suffered many times since the foundation of the world But now in the consummation of the world hath he appeared once to put away sinne by the sacrifice of himselfe Being both the offering sacrificer the sacrifice offered for sinne according to the nature of this holy sacrifice of the new Testament that the Sacrifice and Sacrificer should be both one To Iesus Christ then only appertaineth the honor to be the Sacrificer of the new couenant and they doe him intollerable outrage to appoint him any Successors or Suffragans in regard the Apostle saith There is one euerlasting Sacrificer which neuer ceaseth and passeth not from one to another Nor can this honor be attributed to any other but only he that is called of God as Aaron was So likewise Christ tooke not to himselfe this honor to be made the high Priest but he glorified him that saide vnto him Thou art my Sonne this day begate I thee And as in the former place Thou art an euerlasting sacrificer after the order of Melchisedeck It is not I Ladies that haue spoken all this but Gods infallibe word the sacred Scripture And now if the Priests of the Papacie would haue vs to acknowledge them for sacrificers let them shew vs how the charge to sacrifice Iesus Christ is giuen them by God in the holy Scriptures and then we will lend a better eare to them But this is not the proposition only that Christ Iesus is the sole sacrificer of the new couenant but there remaines a far greater matter For his sacrifice neither can or ought to be iterated or performed againe nor can it be by any other because he offered himselfe once for all and it appertaineth to no man whatsoeuer to make the like offering as he hath done Neither could he as of himselfe offer himselfe againe for then he must haue suffered and died againe as I haue prooued before by the Apostle And the offering which he made of himselfe was once only and that sacrifice is of perpetuall efficacie for the clearing and wiping away of our sinnes Whereupon the same Apostle saith We are sanctified euen by the offering of the bodie of Iesus Christ once made And by one sole oblation which he once only offered hath he consecrated for euer them that are to be sanctified And since he hath purchased for vs the remission of our sinnes there remaineth no more oblations to be made for sinne but his blood only is sufficient whereby he is entred into the holy places hauing obtained euerlasting redemption for vs And we haue daily libertie likewise by the blood of Iesus to enter into the holy places in regard that he is the eternall sacrificer to saue all such as he shall present to God liuing there as their continuall intercessor In all which alleadged places the Apostle makes no mention at all of any new oblation or continual offering the bodie of Christ by the hands of men Who will not say then that this is blasphemie not only in transferring to mortall men the dignitie of the eternall Priesthood of Iesus Christ who neuer resigned his office to any other but likewise to reiterate and renew his sacrifice daily as if the efficacie of the sacrifice which himselfe once offered vpon the Crosse were not sufficient to endure and for our reconciliation to God What shall we also thinke of this saying of the Apostle If when we were enemies we were reconcilea to God by the death of his Sonne much more being reconciled we shall be saued by his life That is to say because he is daily aliue to intercede in our behalfe and procure vs grace and fauour as hath bin before declared Or as he elsewhere saith In regard he appeareth now for vs before the face of God to wit in the powerfull vertue of his sacrifice to communicate the same to all beleeuers There is therefore no neede of any new sacrifice or reiteration thereof Vnderstand good Ladies that I doe not tie my selfe to note euery particular which is condemned thorow the whole passage of the Masle which is very thicke sowen with blasphemies from the beginning to the end therein I should tier both my selfe and you As for example should I speake of the Priests entraunce to the Altar wherein you knowe I vtter no lye First the Priest confesseth himselfe not only to God but likewise both to he Saints and she Saints not so much as naming Iesus Christ Then afterward in the beginning of their Canon and before he goes to any consecration he saith That he offers that Sacrifice to God to wit the bread and wine which are vpon the Altar and as yet not consecrated first of all for the Catholique Church next for the redemption of all their souls that are assistant at the Masse O deare Ladies what a blasphemie is this O that it should euer be receiued among Christians Or that a sinfull man should presume to say That he offers an oblation of bread wine to God and for there demption of soules Nay admit that it were the bodie blood of Iesus Christ yet deare soules you see it manifestly prooued vnto you alreadie that it is not now at this day to be offred againe neither can it by the Apostles testimonie alreadie rehearsed I passe ouer also manyp rayers ful of iniquitie as well before as after the consecration As in the Memento when the Priest requireth the fauour of God by the merits and intercession of Saints As if the sacrisice of Iesus Christ which they say they preferre in the formost place were not sufficient to impetrate such grace of God Then after consecration they commit a sinne whereof by no meanes I thinke they can excuse themselues For the Priest prayeth to God that the oblation which he offereth to wit the bodie and the bloud of Iesus Christ
a meere imagination of For the promise wherein Iesus Christ offered vnto vs his body and bloud vnder the signes of bread and wine appertaineth to none else as hath beene already prooued but onely vnto the faithfull that receiue the same by faith in the lawfull communion of the Euchariste celebrating the mysterie according to the manner as our heauenly Maister did ordaine it Wherfore they which imagine to haue any other thing then common bread without the lawful vse of our Lords Supper are but abused and beleeue meere dreames as it can be no otherwise because they faile of the promise For seeing that Iesus Christ promised vs to giue vs his body in the Sacrament when the faithfull should communicate together after his institution we may not be so vain or idle-headed as to seeke it elsewhere or according to our fantasies Let such men therfore be admonished that they cannot excuse themselues of idolatry both before God and men when they are made to worshippe as if God himselfe were substantially present a round cake of bread which is lifted vp to be seen aboue the shoulders of the Priest and with exceeding great deuotion to be reuerenced and adored of all there present But Ladies I haue held ye somewhat long in this point because it is of such maine importance yet perswading my selfe to haue said sufficient albeit not halfe so much as I could I will proceed to discouer another wicked Idolatry which they procure the poore people to commit euen without so much as thinking theron And that is wheras in their Masse they should obserue the communion in that kinde as our Lord Iesus Christ did first institute it by inniting the people to communicate with the Preist they fly from his example and indeed once a yeare they are contented to doe so and that is at Easter for then the people shall bee permitted to communicate and yet it is but of one moitie onely of the Sacrament wherein likewise they intermingle many fond inuentions yea and all the accustomed superstitions of their ordinarie Masses without expounding or declaring any part of the mistery to the people According to the institution of our Lord in the Sacrament they should inuite the people and breaking the body of Christ after his example it should be truely giuen to the faithfull Communicants according to the promise of our Sauiour Notwithstanding all this they will obserue their owne deuised manner wherein they can no way exempt themselues from being Idolaters and making the people to commit Idolatry in their giuing worship to the bare signe The reason is because Iesus Christ in the Sacrament gaue his bodie to be lookte vpon with our soules eyes and not to be superstitiously adored in the bread which is no more but the outward signe and by faith to bee eaten to euerlasting life For worthy Ladyes Christ did not say looke vpon this bread then take eate and worship it but he simply said Take eate this is my body Therefore whereas the Sacrament should bee a helpe to list vp the vnderstanding of the faithfull vnto heauen where Christ Iesus is and no where else as concerning his true body from thence giues himselfe in powerfull vertue to enioy and possesse the soules of the faithfull vnder those formes by himselfe assigned your Romanists doe abuse the Supper very vildlie and take it in a quite contrary nature for they are onely pleas'de with looking vpon the bare signe and worshiping it taking the thing it selfe for that which is meerely signified thereby answerable to their doctrine of Transubstantiation meerely forged against the true nature of all Sacraments They seeke not to eleuate mens vnderstandings to the place where Christ sitteth at the right hande of his Father but to lift vp their eies to their God-like Idoll Whereas Christ without all doubt in instituting this Sacrament neuer addressed his promise to the bread and wine simply thereby to make them become his body and bloud as hath beene before declared But to the faithfull communicants and so thereby to assure them that he would giue them the true participation and communion of his body answerable to that which the blessed Apostle S. Paule saith he being a most faithfull expositor of this misterie The Cup of blessing which we blesse is it not the Communion of the blood of Christ The bread which we breake is it not the Communion of the bodie of Christ Me thinkes honorable Ladies these words should resolue you that Christ hath comprised nothing else vnder these signes and elements of bread and wine but what was behoouefull for the faithfull communicants to whom the plaine signification directeth it selfe and whereof true faith dooth make them partakers to vnice themselues spiritually with a meruailous efficacy into the glorious body of our Lord Iesus Christ to participate in the end of all his benefits and deriue from him life and immortality In these fewe words vertuous Ladies you may behold both what we teach and beleeue that our feeding on Christ is by faith onely that is in beleeuing the words of our Sauiour in the vse of the Sacrament wherby we are drawne much neerer to him and more stricktly vnited and incorporated euen by the incomprehensible vertue of his spirit to communicate and partake of all the benefits of his death and to be renewed by him and nourished vnto euerlasting life vntill such time as he shall put vs into full possession that is at the departure of our soules from this world and when our bodyes shall arise againe at the day of our generall resurrection This is the fruit which we make account of and are perswaded to gather out of this Sacrament and wherevnto faith serues vs as the onely instrument Euen as with hand eyes and mouth to beholde take and eate Iesus Christ without any need of his forsaking the heauens or of his reall appearance vnder the formes of bread and wine and so to communicate himselfe vnto vs. Wherefore to go and adore the signe as if the signe onely were Iesus Christ himselfe Or that hee should descend downe from heauen and be newely formed for one of these twoo must needs ensue by their transubstantiation which we mayntaine to be flat Idolatry Neuerthelesse we are taught in Scripture that Iesus Christ ought to be adored in the Sacrament and we doe dayly and religiously worshippe him as being most especially present in the holy action euen in our spirits and faith to vnite vs vnto him and to impart his blessings to vs when the Supper is celebrated according to his institution and wee endeuour to haue it so stil continued and ministred among vs. But the manner of our worshippe and adoration is in hauing our soules eleuated vp to heauen and thither true faith is our onely conduct there to behold him as our soueraigne assurance We looke not for him in the naked elemēts of bread and wine
for there we haue no commandement to honour him but wee rather choose to worship him according as we ought and that is in spirit and truth Iudge now good Madames where reason abydeth most on your side or ours and whether your Priests commit not manifest Idolatry in their actions when they receiue and admit the people to the communion of a Sacrament which neuer was ordained by Iesus Christ May not wee then well and truely say that they haue no communion at all but what is of their owne inuentions And that which they carry about the streets going in a solemne Procession is but a round Cake being closed vp in a Boxe or Pixe which they cause to be adored with great veneration It remaineth now that wee come to the third propertie which I haue obserued in the Masse to wit Sacriledge which already hath beene sufficiently discoursed in our former proceeding and yet we will note a fewe obseruations more This holy and diuine Sacrament was instituted to make a Communion of the faithfull in the body and bloud of our blessed Lord and by celebrating it commonly in remembrance of his death and passion But Noble Ladyes your Priests doe conuert all to a contrary end not onely in that which they doe in the sacrifice but in meere robbery and stealth beside For they take from the people the Communion in chiefe yea that which is the principall fruite of this Sacrament restraining it to the Priests onely And the people there present are made no more but silly spectatours of that which the Priest doth alone by himselfe without knowing or vnderstanding what hee saith or doth I know you will answere me as God forgiue me for it I my selfe haue often done that the priest beeing the publike Minister doth communicate in the names and behalfes of all that are present at his Masse Why then let me faire Ladyes mooue this question Where is any such commandement throughout the whole booke of God that wee should see the Priest to haue one Supper for himselfe first then at his leasure to communicate another to vs ●urely as we cannot liue by that which another eateth but of and by that which wee our selues doe eate Euen so as needfull is it for vs that wee should communicate in this holy and diuine Sacrament to liue in the true life of Iesus Christ who hath giuen himselfe therein to vs Not that any other there should receiue it for vs but that wee ought and should receiue it our selues thereby to haue Christ make his dwelling in vs. Alas good Ladyes let vs not seeke to bee wiser then our Lord and Maister for if wee doe it is but in vaine And well you know that hee neuer saide Behold the Priest or Minister of the Church bee eateth and drinketh for you and I haue so appointed it But hee spake plainely without any sophistication and said Take eate drinke you all of this And after him his faithfull Seruant Saint Paul writing to the children by adoption among the Corinthians said Wee are many partakers of one and the same bread And againe Let euery man eate of this bread and drinke of this cup. The countersaite pretence then which they doe alleadge can no way couer or maske their sacriledge because the commaundement is precisely to all faithfull people to take eate and drincke in this holy Supper And Saint Chrysostome hath spoken very well to this purpose Wee are no longer saith hee vnder the olde Law where the Priest did eate his portion and the people had the rest But here one body is giuen to all and likewise one cup And what soeuer is in the Eucharist Sacrament is common as well to the people as the Priest And gratious Ladyes desire them but to satisfie you in this one particular poynt namely that if they beleeue or giue any credit to the Canons of their owne Popes they cannot then but confesse and acknowledge their sacriledge for these bee their owne words All they that are present at the Masse and communicate not confesse themselues to bee excommunicated For their Canons further say That the consecration being ended all are to communicate or else they are depriued of entring into the Church For so did the Apostles set downe the ordinance and wee hold the same in the holy Romaine Church Moreouer in the Canons that beare the title By the Apostles it is thus ordained That all they which continue in the Church to the end of Mosse and doe not receiue the Sacrament ought to be corrected as perturbers and disquieters of the Church According to that which was ordained in the Counsell of Antioche That all they which entred into the Church should behaue themselues well and heare the Sermon and if they abstained from the Sacrament they ought to bee excommunicated vntill they had bin sufficiently chastised for that vice And therefore Saint Chrisostome in his Homilies vpon the Epistle of Saint Paul to the Ephesians doth reproue them very sharpely that in his time would be present in the assembly at the Communion and yet not communicate What say you to this sweete Ladyes when you see how many are present with your selues at their daily Masses and yet none of you are suffered to communicate but the Priest himselfe onely Besides all this the prayers which they yet vse to say in their Masse do likewise very sufficiently conuince them for when the Church retained her wonted puritie the people were then receiued to the Communion and behold what their prayers then contained and yet doe Lord thou hast filled and satisfied thy familie with thy holy giftes to wit the Sacrament And another speaks thus We being filled and satisfied with the sacrifice of thy pretious body most holy bloud c. And another We pray thee lord that these things may be carryed by the hands of thy holy Angell vnto thy high Altar speaking of the oblations of the faithfull in receiuing the bread and wine vsed in the Sacrament To the end that all others as well as wee that shall receiue the participation of the Altar in the blessed body and holy bloud of thy Sonne may be filled with all happy benedictions These are the very true words dere Ladies vsed in their prayers wherein if you will not credit me I desire you to reade them your selues for your further satisfaction And doubtlesse they would neuer haue spoken in this manner if the Priest onely had then communicated as now a dayes you see he doth Otherwise it had beene to say one thing and performe the contrary as you may perceiue hath happened since for now they haue vtterly depriued the people of the Communion Tell me then I intreate yee is it not a mockery of God and of the people to tell them that they are pertakers in those giftes of the Altar and yet all the while to giue them iustnothing at all In