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good_a in_o confound_v but_o too_o bad_a in_o distinguish_v wherefore_o you_o have_v untrue_o report_v of_o that_o worthy_a bishop_n chap._n 3._o the._n 16._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 171._o sect._n 3_o and_o therefore_o i_o conclude_v that_o forsomuche_o as_o vutruthi_fw-la as_o wherefare_n you_o not_o asha_n med_n of_o vutruthi_fw-la both_o the_o holy_a scripture_n do_v teach_v that_o minister_n ought_v not_o to_o meddle_v with_o civil_a office_n and_o reason_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n do_v confirm_v it_o that_o they_o ought_v to_o keep_v themselves_o within_o the_o limit_n of_o the_o ministry_n and_o ecclesiastical_a function_n lest_o while_o they_o break_v forth_o into_o the_o call_n of_o a_o magistrate_n in_o stead_n of_o show_v themselves_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v overseer_n they_o be_v find_v to_o declare_v themselves_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v busy_a body_n meddling_n in_o thing_n which_o belong_v not_o unto_o they_o and_o thus_o put_v they_o in_o remembrance_n of_o that_o which_o they_o know_v well_o mough_o that_o they_o aught_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ▪_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v to_o say_v study_n to_o adorn_v that_o charge_n which_o they_o take_v in_o hand_n and_o do_v profess_v i_o leave_v to_o speak_v any_o further_a of_o this_o matter_n io._n whitgifte_n melchisedech_n be_v a_o priest_n do_v exercise_v civil_a jurisdiction_n for_o he_o be_v king_n of_o salem_n jurisdiction_n the_o scripture_n teach_v that_o ecclesiastical_a person_n may_v have_v civil_a jurisdiction_n gen_n 14._o aaron_n be_v a_o priest_n do_v judge_v the_o whole_a people_n in_o temporal_a matter_n even_o in_o cause_n of_o inheritance_n num._n 27._o in_o the._n 17._o of_o deuteronomie_n there_o be_v a_o commandment_n that_o civil_a matter_n of_o difficulty_n shall_v be_v refer_v to_o the_o priest_n and_o to_o the_o judge_n elye_o and_o samuel_n priest_n do_v judge_v the_o people_n in_o matter_n 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