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A89784 The nutcracker crackt by the Nutt, and the backers cake starke dow: being the vindication of honest men, from the scandalous aspersions of Thomas Bakewell the baker in hanging-sword court neere Fleetestreete Conduite. ... in his learned book called the confutation of the Anabaptists, with a nut-cracker. The which is crackt by the nut against whom it was made, who admonisheth Bakewell to turne to his old trade of bakinge again; and mend his manners therein: ... Thus in this following discourse you shall see the slanderous lyer found out: the fool answered according to his foolishnesse, and the bakers cake starke dow: / by Thomas Nutt. Nutt, Thomas, 17th cent. 1644 (1644) Wing N1476; Thomason E254_11; ESTC R210056 7,691 8

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to Christ if thy hand foot or eye offend thee do so and so whereas there is not such a word in my book Again where as thou blinde soul saist I speak of two eyes two hands two feet in his mysticall bodie and carnally aske which is the right eye or the right hand I answer thee pittying thy ignorance though a body politicke loose half the members it is a whole body still As the Corporation of London if there were a 1000 members more it were but a body so if it loose 2000 it is a compleat body still although if many of them taken away were eminent it would seem as a maimed body in comparison of what it was before And whereas thou saist that all the brains in the Nutt knows not how to answer thee I answer if he do know no thank to him but whereas thou speakest of two eyes in a Church and saist if one offend and be excommunicate and the other die in the mean time that so it leave all blinde I answer thy carnall objection thus that in a body politick every member in a greater or lesser measure should execute the office of the eye hand and foot and of every other member for the good of the body ye may all prophesie one by one that all may learn and all may be comforted 1 Cor. 14. and so ought all to bee helpfull to the body although the bodie may especially chuse those best gifted Then thou saist Well thus you see that Christ here speaketh of our naturall members but doest thou judge so or thinke that any that have any spirituall knowledge of God do judge it so surely if thou dost it is because thou fearest not God for he revealeth his secrets to them that fear him Ps 25.14 Again thou saist that a man in grace must needs grieve to see his members act sin I aske thee whether the heart or some other part of the body it be that grieves for those actions of the eye hand or foot if it be the heart consider I pray thee do that grieve that its servants do its will for from it they speak look act And whereas thou saist that the Word if is not a word of diffedence where it is said If God be God follow him I say so also and never said against it yet I do say it implies if he be not God do not follow him and so of the rest thou bringest for that purpose And whereas thou saist we should binde our eyes hands feet with the cords of a Covenant and then instancest Iob 31.1 and saist Iob made a covenant with his eyes not to look on a maid whereas hee saith no such thing but saith I made covenant with mine eyes why then should I think upon a maid Whence I infer that through grace he having resolved against acting sin through the strength given him of God he is now grieved with himself and implore strength from God against the first thoughts and motions thereunto And thus I conceive he intends I am by grace resolved not to commit a lustfull action with nor cast a lustfull look on a woman but then why am I yet troubled with the first motions and thoughts of it Lord help me aginst them also and speaks not of nor intends any other covenant as if the heart and the members were at one time different one from the other for then that body were divided against it self and so as a Kingdome divided could not stand Mat. 12.25 so there needs no tying together with the cords of a Covenant as you affirme Then as never weary of lying thou saist that my expositiou is that the eye there intended is the Minister I answer so it is But thou saist I say if he be blinde all the Annabaptists are blinde also whereas I say no such thing but if he be an hereticall wicked man and they walk by his light they namely every man and woman of that body walking by the light of their wicked eye or Minister which is darknes they namely all the body or Church will be full of darknes Mat. 6.23 and except they obey God in plucking out this wicked eye they are not his true Disciples but seeming so and so they being blinde are led by their blinde eye or Minister till both fall into the ditch namely Hell Again to leave many of thy ignorant foolish erationall reasonings because answering a fool according to all his foolishnesse were to be like him which were to make my book tedious as thine is but now another palpable lye as the thief crying stop thief thou fatherest upon me as any that will be pleased to read my book called the offending eye hand and foot which they may have for a penny being that which thou opposest may see But to returne to another lye of thine that it seemes cannot refrain lying thou saist I flatly contradict Christ saying that I say that the taking away of corruptions wounds the man which is the exposition of thy blinde guides whom thou so adorest and that the reader may know thy lying and falsehood I will quote the pages in my book which thou opposest this thy last lie may be found in pag. 21. of my book called The offending eye hand and foot Again thou askest how I will conster the two hands two feet or two eyes of the visible bedy of Christ for that is my term not mysticall as thou falsely affirmest thus I answer that it is Christs comparison taken from a naturall body that hath but two of each of those members and thefore he speakes so of them in the name of 2 of each of those members but you see in civill bodies politique as in this City there is every yeere a new hand of power nomely a L. Major so alwaies in bodies politicke either spirituall or temporall though many be cut off by death or otherwise yet there are more to come in their places by order of the surviving or living members but poore soule thou having not received the love of the tryth but rejected it Christs words are given to thee yet in parables that hearing thou understandest not and seeing thou perceivest not the Lord open thy spirituall eyes and eares and give thee unnerstanding what his Spirituall body is and make thee a true spirituall member thereof for his glory and thy comfort After this thou falsely taxest me to say that your Ministers have no faith which I deny but do say they are not faithfull Ministers by vertue of any thing they had from the unpurged fountaines of the Universities Then you come to prove yours the Ministers of Christ and you begin to shew that he received his ministery of his Father And the Apestles delivered what they received of Christ in his power and way which we grant and them we own for his Ministrs but as the Devill said Iesus we know and Paul we know but who are ye so Christ we acknowledge and the Apostles we acknoshledge but who are your Ministers if you or they can prove themselves the Ministers of Christ we will thankfully hear and joyfully ebrace them Again you say if your Ministers build their doctrines upon the Apostles and Prophets without addition or detraction the Gospell will remain in its integrity Alasse silly creature can any thing destroy the integritie of the Gaspel Wherefore break off thy blasphemies and intreat God with Simon Magus if it be possible the thoughts of thy heart may be forgiven thee which my soul humbly entreats the Lord to do for thee for his glory and thy comfort Farewell FINIS
whatsoever is or can bee said against it So that you conceive although God doth not shew mecanick fooles his misteries as you say my booke teacheth yet mecannick wisemen such as your selfe he doth and that in such sort as none can after argue against it but he is already answered Now I shall without scoffing or deriding thee as a man who art a wise man or else thou art deceived but I think few else judge thee so and pittying thee as considering thee a poor ignorant selfe-conceited man Yet I must not hate thee in my heart but I must reprove thee Deut. 19. And that before all that others mny fear 1 Tim. 5.20 but any thing thou hast done against me the Lord lay it not to thy charge Act. 7. First thou falsly saist I am an Anabaptist and so as I said before the Thiefe cry stop thiefe and secondly thou saist that thou supposest me to be the son of the old Mouse-catcher who some yeers since cried Mouse traps Doe not thine owne conscience give thee the lie for if thou doest not suppose so art thou not a liar and of thy father ther the Devill as aforesaid And thirdly thou saist I profered ten pounds to be Hangman hath thy father aforesaid prevailed with thee so to byely me and my Father whom thou never knewst who neither of us ever attempted to be hangman no nor to make a Pillorie for Bakewell the false baker Again thou saist that having but little trading for my Axe I use it to cut off men in bodies politicke What more lies yet I confesse thou mightest not lie so willingly as before for I instanced indeed in bodies politick for illustration but thou mayst see that I conclude that our Saviour speaks there of a spirituall bodie or Church of visible Saints or such as visibly appeard so to be which he owns for his visible Church and searcheth the heart himself Again thou saist I dare not tell what the offence is lest I should be hanged see thou wilt imagine lies rather then thou wilt be out of the exercise of them whereas the Reader may see I did but suppose such a thing for illustration as in the Offending Eye pag. 25. Again as never wearie of lying thou saist that for his being a Magistrate that offending the Anabaptists is that for which I would have him cut off although he were faithfull to King and State the which I and those whom thou Antebaptist reproachfully callest Anabaptists do utterly denie and abhorre and do heartily desire the execution of all civill Laws established by the Word of God and grieve that the good Laws of England are no better executed And thou further saist that I think Magistrates ought to be cut off for maintaining the Wars wherein both Parliament and Magistrates will condemne thee for a liar who know that I have used my utmost endeavours to further their designes but indeed with desire of as much spare of bloud as might lawfully be Then thou chargest me that I say that the members of the mysticall bodie whereof I used not the phrase must be cut off but I shew not the offence wherefore I answer thee poore ignorant soule that if thou knewest what it were to be a member of a Church of Christ thou wouldest know that owning and maintaining any sin against God is offence to his true Church and to every true living member in it And whereas thou saist that I would have them cut off for every sin I answer the Churches of Christs dare not cut off any member till they appeare to be such as Christ would have to be cut off namely rotten or unsound ones which the wilfull owning any knowne fin against admonition denominates any to be And whereas thou saist thou wilt rake the hammer of Gods Word anti-spirit my shell and give a farther taste of the devillish kernell that is in me p●●re soule if the Lord would please to make thee an instrument in ●●●s hand to discover to me that devillishnesse that is in mee which yet I see not I hope I should thankfully take notice of my sin and praise him for thee as his instrument but poore heart thou knowest not yet how to handle that hammer to break thine own heart if thou canst cast the beame or if but a moat out of thine eye thou shalt see the cleerer to help thy brother Mat. 7.5 And whereas thou demandest of me if the not cutting off a member from the visible bodie or Church cause the body to bee cast into hell Judge you whether if a foot that carrieth the bodie or a hand that draws or drives or an eye that directs the bodie thitherward if it be not cut off will not bring it thither Again thou saist that if Christ were on earth again I would be offended at him for many were offended at him it is true and thou poore soul art offended at him and opposest his way as truly as Paul did when he was going to Damascus although thou thinkest not so The Lord if it be his will shew thee himselfe as he did to him Then thou affirmest that the meaning of cutting off a member is the cutting off the corruption of the members then I conceive it would be said Wash or clense thy members as else where clense your selves from all filthinesse of flesh and spirit 2 Cor. 7.1 But thou affirmest that if wee cannot cut off lusts without the members we must cut off the member and saist we shall have it at the Resurrection I pray thee doth not the Apostles say No man ever hated his own flesh but nourished it and whereas thou saist we should be as much offended with the evill of sin that is in the eye as the evill of pain in the tooth I pray thee cōsider doth not Christ say that from within namely from the heart comes evill thoughts and lusts and so do not the heart employ the eie the tongue the care the hand and all to serve its turn And so as our Saviour saith An evill man out of the evill treasury of his heart bringeth forth evill things he doth not say Out of the evill treasure of his eie or hand or foot but of his heart and marke thy absurdity which poor soule thou canst not see Thou saist when all means is used our eie hand or foot will not be reclamed we must cut them off or pluck them out rather then employ them to our eternall ruine of bodie and soul Marke you said even now if wee could not reclaime them and now yee say wee employ them then if the fountain fill the channels will it find fault and cut them off for running when being filled from it they cannot ceasse running so if the heart employ the eie hand and foot and enforce their acting and without it they act not good or evill will or can the heart cut them off for obeying its command Again thou as never weary of thy lying chargest me that I say