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A92075 The Cyprianick-Bishop examined, and found not to be a diocesan, nor to have superior power to a parish minister, or Presbyterian moderator being an answer to J.S. his Principles of the Cyprianick-age, with regard to episcopal power & jurisdiction : together with an appendix, in answer to a railing preface to a book, entituled, The fundamental charter of presbytery / by Gilbert Rule ... Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701. 1696 (1696) Wing R2218; ESTC R42297 93,522 126

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ad_fw-la demetrium_n sunt_fw-la quos_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la reprehendit_fw-la quos_fw-la interdum_fw-la abjicit_fw-la in_fw-la quos_fw-la nonnunquam_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la &_o presbyterorum_fw-la censura_fw-la desaevit_fw-la ambrose_n give_v account_n ep._n 80._o of_o the_o excommunication_n of_o jovinianus_n and_o other_o with_o he_o by_o syricius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n who_o word_n to_o ambrose_n be_v omnium_fw-la nostrum_fw-la tam_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la quam_fw-la diaconorum_fw-la quam_fw-la totius_fw-la cleri_fw-la scissitata_fw-la fuit_fw-la sententia_fw-la it_o be_v show_v §_o 37._o that_o penitent_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n as_o cypr._n ep._n 12._o it_o be_v then_o strange_a if_o they_o be_v cast_v out_o by_o the_o bishop_n alone_o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n who_o can_v for_o further_a satisfaction_n will_v read_v paul_n baynes_n diocesan_n trial_n and_o mr._n peregrin_n letter_n patent_n of_o presbytery_n they_o have_v somewhat_o that_o 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celerini_n ad_fw-la lucium_fw-la §_o 3._o quorum_fw-la jam_fw-la causa_fw-la
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