Selected quad for the lemma: hand_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
hand_n	bishop_n	ordination_n	presbyter_n	4,322	5	10.6970	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A78783	His Majesties finall ansvver concerning Episcopacie. Delivered in to the commissioners of Parliament the first of Novemb. 1648.	England and Wales. Sovereign (1625-1649 : Charles I); Charles I, King of England, 1600-1649.	1648 (1648)	Wing C2306; Thomason E469_17; ESTC R205464	21,665	30

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