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B20736 The vvay of the churches of Christ in New-England, or, The vvay of churches walking in brotherly equalitie, or co-ordination, without subjection of one church to another measured and examined bythe golden reed of the sanctuary, containing a full declaration of the church-way in all particulars / by Mr. J. Cotton ... Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1645 (1645) Wing C6471; ESTC R209858 96,219 122

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