Selected quad for the lemma: hand_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
hand_n	bishop_n	ordain_v	presbyter_n	6,414	5	11.1866	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85312	Of schism. Parochial congregations in England, and ordination by imposition of hands. Wherein Dr. Owen's discovery of the true nature of schism is briefly and friendly examined, together with Mr. Noyes of New England his arguments against imposition of hands in ordination. / By Giles Firmin, sometime of new England, now pastor of the Church at Shalford in Essex.	Firmin, Giles, 1614-1697.	1658 (1658)	Wing F958; Thomason E1819_1; ESTC R209761	90,499	170

extraordinary_a presbyter_n a._n say_v what_o presbyter_n and_o prove_v the_o extraordinary_a presbyter_n be_v enumerate_v 1._o the_o synod_n of_o n.e._n mr._n hooker_n nor_o a_o thousand_o more_o ever_o think_v of_o any_o such_o thing_n the_o synod_n conceive_v it_o be_v the_o presbytery_n of_o ephesus_n which_o impose_v hand_n on_o timothy_n junius_n conceive_v it_o be_v the_o presbytery_n of_o derbe_n and_o lystra_n where_o paul_n take_v he_o 1960._o eccles_n p._n 1960._o act_v 16.2_o chrysostom_n indeed_o think_v they_o be_v bishop_n for_o presbyter_n can_v not_o ordain_v bishop_n say_v he_o mr._n n._n do_v not_o believe_v chrysostom_n i_o know_v nor_o do_v i_o believe_v they_o be_v extraordinary_a presbyter_n 2._o i_o wonder_v the_o bishop_n of_o old_a and_o our_o latter_a bishop_n do_v not_o hit_v of_o this_o notion_n but_o that_o both_o according_a to_o the_o canon_n of_o old_a and_o so_o of_o our_o bishop_n presbyter_n be_v admit_v to_o join_v in_o ordination_n with_o the_o 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minister_n who_o know_v they_o beside_o be_v illiterate_a and_o person_n who_o neither_o be_v ordain_v nor_o will_v be_v ordain_v nor_o i_o think_v will_v sober_a minister_n ever_o ordain_v they_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o secret_a but_o more_o public_o speak_v off_o then_o my_o book_n can_v publish_v whence_o their_o friend_n be_v grieve_v their_o enemy_n rejoice_v have_v cause_n they_o think_v to_o open_v their_o mouth_n against_o they_o and_o to_o vilify_v reformation_n beside_o the_o hindrance_n of_o union_n in_o the_o church_n chap._n ii_o concern_v imposition_n of_o hand_n in_o ordination_n although_o our_o divine_n have_v all_o i_o think_v unless_o a_o few_o rise_v up_o in_o our_o day_n agree_v in_o the_o necessity_n of_o ordination_n to_o a_o minister_n yet_o they_o have_v not_o all_o have_v the_o same_o thought_n about_o imposition_n of_o hand_n as_o if_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o ordination_n most_o have_v agree_v in_o this_o that_o though_o they_o look_v on_o it_o as_o a_o 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that_o worthy_a divine_a doctor_n seaman_n have_v answer_v i_o cast_v my_o eye_n upon_o it_o long_o since_o but_o do_v not_o now_o remember_v any_o thing_n pro_n or_o con_n what_o there_o be_v say_v or_o in_o any_o other_o man_n what_o then_o i_o can_v gather_v from_o scripture_n and_o reason_n i_o shall_v humble_o offer_v to_o the_o reader_n and_o to_o mr._n noyes_n in_o answer_n to_o what_o he_o have_v say_v against_o it_o not_o many_o year_n since_o humane_a ceremony_n add_v to_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n how_o much_o trouble_n and_o misery_n they_o add_v to_o the_o church_n we_o have_v not_o yet_o forget_v man_n write_v and_o speak_v so_o far_o as_o they_o dare_v and_o suffer_v by_o reason_n of_o they_o man_n wit_n be_v now_o busy_v as_o much_o in_o throw_v out_o of_o god_n worship_n as_o they_o be_v in_o add_v why_o then_o we_o may_v not_o now_o stand_v up_o in_o desence_n of_o god_n ceremony_n if_o this_o be_v but_o a_o ceremony_n as_o they_o oppose_v man_n ceremony_n i_o know_v not_o come_v then_o to_o imposition_n etc._n etc._n let_v we_o hear_v a_o little_a what_o other_o man_n have_v say_v about_o it_o and_o first_o for_o great_a calvin_n who_o i_o hear_v allege_v against_o imposition_n which_o i_o a_o little_a wonder_v at_o know_v calvin_n have_v speak_v sufficient_o for_o it_o 1._o 16._o instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 3._o s_o 16._o licet_fw-la nullum_fw-la extet_fw-la certum_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la de_fw-la manuum_fw-la impositione_n quia_fw-la tamen_fw-la fuisse_fw-la in_o perpetuo_fw-la usu_fw-la apostolis_n videmus_fw-la illa_fw-la tam_fw-la accurata_fw-la eorum_fw-la observatio_fw-la prae_fw-la cepti_fw-la vice_fw-la nobis_fw-la esse_fw-la debet_fw-la 2._o again_o impositionem_fw-la manuum_fw-la 20._o l._n 4._o c._n 14._o s_o 20._o qua_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ministri_fw-la in_fw-la suum_fw-la munus_fw-la initiarentur_fw-la non_fw-la invitus_fw-la patior_fw-la vocari_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la 3._o again_o 16._o l._n 4._o c._n 2._o s_o 16._o et_fw-la certè_fw-la utile_fw-la est_fw-la ejusmodi_fw-la symbolo_fw-la ministerii_fw-la dignitatem_fw-la populo_fw-la commendari_fw-la etc._n etc._n praeterea_fw-la non_fw-la erit_fw-la inane_fw-la signum_fw-la si_fw-la in_o germanam_fw-la svam_fw-la originem_fw-la restitutum_fw-la fuerit_fw-la nam_fw-la si_fw-la nihil_fw-la frustra_fw-la spiritus_fw-la dei_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la instituit_fw-la hanc_fw-la ceremoniam_fw-la cum_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la profecta_fw-la sit_fw-la sentiemus_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la inutilem_fw-la modo_fw-la in_o superstitiosum_fw-la usum_fw-la now_o vertatur_fw-la see_v he_o again_o l._n 4._o c._n 19_o s_o 31._o calvin_n judgement_n be_v clear_a with_o his_o reason_n for_o it_o chemnitius_n give_v we_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o lutheran_n church_n say_v 221._o exam._n council_n trid._n p._n 221._o nec_fw-la manuum_fw-la impositionem_fw-la vocare_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la gravabimur_fw-la i_o omit_v austin_n who_o call_v it_o so_o long_o before_o they_o be_v bear_v in_o a_o large_a sense_n not_o the_o popish_a sense_n nos_fw-la uno_fw-la verbo_fw-la dicimus_fw-la si_fw-la per_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la jusjurandum_fw-la 321._o loc._n com._n p._n 321._o &_o religiosam_fw-la obstrictionem_fw-la intelligunt_fw-la sit_fw-la ordo_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la per_fw-la i_o licet_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la quale_fw-la veteribus_fw-la erat_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la militare_fw-la say_v musculus_fw-la walaeus_n say_v 473._o loc._n com._n l._n 1._o p._n 473._o in_o all_o the_o confession_n of_o their_o church_n except_o one_o or_o two_o it_o be_v require_v and_o because_o the_o apostle_n always_o use_v it_o and_o the_o apostle_n give_v that_o precept_n to_o tim._n 5.22_o not_o to_o lay_v on_o hand_n sudden_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o omit_v it_o because_o in_o that_o negative_a a_o affirmative_a be_v contain_v that_o he_o shall_v impose_v on_o worthy_a person_n where_o since_o by_o a_o synecdoche_n it_o be_v take_v for_o the_o election_n of_o a_o pastor_n 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