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A57068 The tabernacle of God with men, or, The visible church reformed a discourse of the matter and discipline of the visible church, tending to reformation / by Richard Resbury ... Resbury, Richard, 1607-1674. 1649 (1649) Wing R1136A; ESTC R32282 56,135 82

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but_o whatsoever_o be_v comprehend_v in_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d belong_v to_o the_o presbyter_n by_o express_a testimony_n here_o they_o must_v act_v the_o part_n of_o bishop_n which_o be_v they_o not_o the_o same_o with_o bishop_n will_v be_v to_o usurp_v therefore_o if_o not_o only_a ordination_n but_o jurisdiction_n belong_v to_o bishop_n the_o same_o by_o as_o authentic_a commission_n belong_v to_o presbyter_n or_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n of_o several_a congregation_n hence_o as_o former_o for_o ordination_n so_o for_o jurisdiction_n we_o may_v observe_v that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v perform_v without_o bishop_n distinct_a from_o and_o above_o presbyter_n 1_o cor._n 5._o per_fw-la totum_fw-la there_o be_v then_o no_o bishop_n in_o corinth_n object_n the_o apostle_n there_o excommunicate_v vers_fw-la 3._o i_o have_v judge_v already_o etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o some_o as_o beza_n for_o one_o hold_v excommunication_n prevent_v by_o public_a rebuke_n and_o repentance_n thereupon_o 2_o cor._n 2.6_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d render_v punishment_n signify_v rebuke_v 2._o the_o apostle_n judgement_n be_v a_o judgement_n of_o doctrinal_a determination_n appoint_v they_o what_o to_o do_v in_o case_n public_a rebuke_n or_o admonition_n shall_v not_o reclaim_v he_o not_o of_o juridical_a execution_n the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v gather_v in_o the_o name_n and_o with_o the_o power_n of_o christ_n to_o deliver_v etc._n etc._n 3._o have_v not_o this_o church_n the_o same_o power_n with_o those_o church_n rev._n 2_o but_o they_o be_v to_o proceed_v by_o the_o apostle_n direction_n blame_v that_o they_o have_v suffer_v such_o and_o such_o as_o the_o nicolatians_n jezabel_n etc._n etc._n the_o apostle_n himself_o not_o formal_o execute_v 1_o tim._n 5.17_o all_o church_n rule_n be_v distribute_v among_o the_o elder_n or_o presbyter_n therefore_o
distinct_a from_o and_o above_o presbyter_n be_v manifest_a in_o this_o instance_n of_o the_o church_n of_o alexandria_n where_o till_o heraclas_n and_o dionysius_n a_o bishop_n be_v no_o other_o but_o one_o of_o the_o presbyter_n by_o the_o choice_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o rest_n set_v in_o a_o high_a degree_n 2._o another_o pretence_n from_o antiquity_n be_v the_o catalogue_n of_o bishop_n succeed_v each_o other_o in_o such_o and_o such_o church_n answ_n how_o do_v it_o appear_v that_o these_o bishop_n have_v peculiar_a ordination_n and_o above_o presbyter_n there_o be_v as_o formal_a a_o catalogue_n give_v in_o of_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n as_o of_o any_o other_o church_n succeed_v mark_n the_o evangelist_n in_o this_o order_n 1._o anianus_n 2._o abilius_n 3._o cerdo_n 4._o primus_fw-la 5._o justus_n 6._o eumenes_n 7._o marcus_n 8._o celadion_fw-la 9_o agrippa_n or_o agrippinus_n 10._o julianus_n 11._o demetrius_n 12._o heraclas_n 13._o dionysius_n whereas_o yet_o we_o have_v it_o clear_a from_o jerome_n that_o heraclas_n be_v the_o first_o who_o have_v distinct_a ordination_n and_o office_n above_o a_o presbyter_n 3._o pretence_n from_o antiquity_n such_o testimony_n as_o be_v give_v to_o the_o honour_n and_o power_n of_o bishop_n by_o the_o ancient_n and_o here_o above_o all_o ignatius_n help_v at_o every_o turn_n answ_n 1._o forasmuch_o as_o five_o of_o his_o epistle_n be_v grant_v by_o diverse_a advocate_n of_o episcopacy_n to_o be_v such_o as_o do_v evident_o betray_v no_o little_a forgery_n who_o shall_v assure_v we_o that_o those_o seven_o by_o they_o avouch_v in_o all_o thing_n genuine_a be_v so_o indeed_o what_o more_o unlikely_a then_o that_o they_o shall_v escape_v tamper_n by_o the_o same_o hand_n 2._o those_o seven_o most_o stand_v upon_o be_v by_o very_o learned_a man_n among_o other_o salmasius_n judge_v in_o the_o very_a testimony_n very_o spurious_a and_o that_o not_o from_o blasse_o but_o upon_o good_a ground_n 1._o the_o 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for_o the_o salvation_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n 4._o the_o impertinency_n of_o some_o take_v that_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o philadelphian_o let_v the_o prince_n obey_v the_o emperor_n the_o soldier_n the_o prince_n the_o deacon_n the_o presbyter_n those_o high-priest_n the_o presbyter_n and_o the_o deacon_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o who_o be_v they_o i_o wonder_v and_o what_o part_n of_o the_o clergy_n be_v the_o deacon_n with_o all_o the_o people_n and_o the_o soldier_n and_o the_o prince_n and_o the_o emperor_n let_v they_o obey_v the_o bishop_n set_v aside_o other_o flaw_n what_o impertinency_n be_v here_o to_o enjoin_v the_o prince_n and_o the_o emperor_n to_o obey_v the_o bishop_n when_o there_o be_v not_o at_o this_o time_n nor_o many_o year_n after_o any_o emperor_n or_o prince_n christian_a these_o be_v some_o few_o glean_n more_o of_o the_o like_a stamp_n there_o to_o be_v find_v that_o not_o without_o reason_n it_o be_v by_o the_o learned_a 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