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A47742 A discourse shewing who they are that are now qualify'd to administer baptism and the Lord's-Supper wherein the cause of episcopacy is briefly treated / by the author of A discourse proving the divine institution of water-baptism. Leslie, Charles, 1650-1722. 1698 (1698) Wing L1130; ESTC R25145 50,009 107

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Episcopis atque Calcatis Pax à Presbyteris verbis fallacibus Prodicetur ibid. Antichristi jam propinquantis adventum Imitantur Ep. LXXX Successo Rescripsisse valerianum ad Senatum ut Episcopi Presbyteri Diacones in continenti animadvertantur Firmillanus Cypriano Ep. LXXV p. 225. Potestas ergo Peccatorum remittendorum Apostolis data est Episcopis qui eis Ordinatione vicaria successerunt Ep. XVI p. 36. Cyprianus Presbyteris Diaconibus Quod enim periculum metuere non debemus de offensa Domini quando aliqui de Presbyteris nec Evangelu nec Deci sue memores sed ne que futurum Domini Judicium neque sibi praepositum Episcopum cogitantes quod nunquam omnino sub Antecessorthus factum est cum Contumelia Contemptu Praepositi totum sibi vendicent Contumeliam Episcopatus nostri dissimulare ferre possum sed dissimulandi nunc locus non est Optatus Milevitanus Bishop of Mileve or Mela in Numidia in Africa A. D. 365. A.D. 365 In his 2d Book against Parmenian The Church has her several Members Bishops Presbyters Deacons and the Company of the Faithful You found in the Church Deacons Presbyters Bishops you have made them Lay-men acknowledge that you have Subverted Souls St. Ambrose Bishop of Milan A. D. 370. upon Eph. iv 11. Speaking of the several Orders of the Church And he gave some Apostles and some Prophets and Evangelists c. Says that by the Apostles there were meant the Bishops by Prophets the Expounders of the Scriptures and by the Evangelists the Deacons But says that they all met in the Bishop for that he was the Chief Priest that is says he the Prince of the Priests and both Prophet and Evangelist to supply all the Offices of the Church for the Ministry of the Faithful And upon 1 Cor. xii 28. says that Christ Constituted the Apostles Head in the Church and that these are the Bishops And upon v. 29. are all Apostles i.e. all are not Apostles This is true says he because in the Church ther is but one Bishop And because all things are from one God the Father therefore hath He appointed that one Bishop shou'd Preside over Each Church In his Book of the Dignity of the Priesthood c. 3. he says That ther is nothing in this World to be found more Excellent than the Priests nothing more Sublime than the Bishops And speaking of what was Incumbent upon the several Orders of the Church he does plainly distinguish them For says he in the same place God does require one thing from a Bishop another from a Presbyter another from a Deacon and another from a Lay-man Optatus Milevitanus Bishop of Mileve or Mela in Numidia in Africa A. D. 365. l. 2. Contra Parmenianum Certa Membra sua habet Ecclesia Episcopos Presbyteros Diaconos turbam Fidelium Invenistis Diaconos Presbyteros Episcopos fecisiis La●cos agnoscite vos animas evertisse Quosdam dedit Apostolos A.D. 37● quosdam Prophetas c. Apostoli Episcopi sunt Prophetae Explanatores sunt Scripturum sicut Agabus Evangelist Diaconi sunt sicut fuit Philippus Nam in Episcopo omnes ordines sunt quia Princeps Sacerdos est hoc est Princeps est Sacerdotum Propheta Evangelista Caetera adimplenda offic●● Ecclesiae in Ministerio Eidelium Caput in Ecclesia Apostolos posuit Ipsi sunt Episcopi Verum est quia in Ecclesia unus Episcopus est Quia ab uno Deo Patre sunt omnia singulos Episcopos singulis Ecclesiis Prae-esse Decrevit De Dignat Sacerdot c. 3. ut ostenderemus nihil esse in hoc seculo Excellentius Sacerdotibus nihil Sublimius Episcopis reperiri Aliud est enim quod ab Episcopo requirit Deus aliud quod à Presbytero aliud quod à Deacono aliud quod à Laico St. Jerom A. D. 380. A. D. 380. In his Comment upon the Ep. to Titus When it began to be said I am of Paul I of Apollos c. and every one thought that those whom he Baptized belong'd to himself and not to Christ it was Decreed thro' The whole Earth that one Chosen from among the Presbyters shou'd be set over the rest that the Seeds of Schism might be taken away In his Epist to Evagrius From Mark the Evangelist to Heraclas and Dionysius the Bishops the Presbyters of Egypt have always chosen out one from among themselves whom having plac'd in an higher Degree than the rest they called their Bishop He that is Advanc'd is Advanc'd from less to greater The Greatness of Riches or the Humility of Poverty does not make a Bishop greater or less seeing all of them are the Successors of the Apostles That we may know the Apostolical Oeconomy to be taken from the Pattern of the Old Testament the same that Aaron and his Sons and the Levites were in the Temple the Bishops Presbyters and Deacons are in the Church of Christ To Nepotianus Be subject to your Bishop or Chief-Priest and receive him as the Father of your Soul Against the Luciferians The safety of the Ch. depends upon the Dignity of the High-Priest to whom unless a sort of absolute and eminent Power be given above all ther will be as many Schisms in the Church as ther are Priests Thence it is that without the Command of the Bishop neither a Presbyter nor a Deacon have Power to Baptize And the Bishop is to impose his Hands upon those who are Baptized by Presbyters or Deacons for the Invocation of the Holy Spirit And Comforting Heliodorus a Bishop upon the Death of Nepotian his Presbyter and his Nephew he Commends Nepotian in that he Reverenc'd his Bishop He Honour'd Heliodorus in publick as his Bishop at home as his Father But among his Presbyters and Co-equals he was the first in his Vocation c. Upon the 60th of Isa He calls the future Bishops Princes of the Church Of the Ecclesiastical Writers Concerning James James after the Passion of our Lord was immediatly by the Apostles ordained Bishop of Jerusalem The like he tells of the first Bishops of other Places Epist 54. against Montanus With us the Bishops hold the Place of the Apostles St. Jerom A. D. 380. A. D. 380. In his Comment upon the Ep. to Titus Postquam unusquisque eos quos Baptizabat suos putabat esse non Christi IN TOTO ORBE Decretum est ut unus de Presbyteris Electus superponeretur Caeteris ut Schismatum semina tollerentur A Marco Evangelista ad Heraclum usq●ad Dionysium Episcopos Presbyrari Aegypti semper unum ex se Electum in Clesiori Gradu collocatum Episcopum Nominabant Qui provehitur à Minori ad Majus provehitur Potentia Divitiarum Paupertatis Humilitas sublimiorum vel inferiorem Episcopum non facit Ceterum Omnes Apostolorum Successores sunt Ut sciamus Traditiones Apostolicas sumptas de veteri Testamento Quod Aaron Filii ejus
Let the Presbyters and Deacons do nothing without the Consent of the Bishop for it is He to whom the People of the Lord are committed and from whom an account of their Souls will be Requir'd Can. 41. We Ordain the Bishop to have power of the Goods of the Church And to Administer to those who want by the hands of the Presbyters and Deacons Can. 55. If any Clergy man shall Reproach his Bishop let him be Depos'd For Thou shalt not speak Evil of the Ruler of the People 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 After the Canons of the Apostles I produce next a Great Council of 87 Bishops held at Carthage in the Year of Christ 256 under St. Cyprian Archbishop of that Place which is Published in St. Cyprian's Works before quoted p. 229. where he tells us That besides the Bishops ther met there both Presbyters and Deacons and great Numbers of the Laity Episcopi plurimi cum Presbyteris Diaconibus c. The Council of Eliberis in Spain about the Year of Christ 305. Cap. 18. and 19. Bishops Presbyters and Deacons are Nam'd distinct And c. 32. Presbyters and Deacons are forbid to give the Communion to those who had grievously offended without the Command of the Bishop c. 75. Of those who shall falsly accuse a Bishop Presbyter or Deacon c. 77. It is ordained that those who are Baptiz'd by a Deacon without the Rishop or Presbyter shall afterwards be Confirm'd by the Bishop The Council of Eliberis in Spain about the Year of Christ 305. Cap. 18. and 19. Episcopi Presbyteri Diaconi c. Non est Presbyterorum aut Diaconorum Communionem talibus praestare debere nisi eis jusserit Episcopus Si quis Episcopum Presbyterum vel Diaconum falsis Criminibus appetierit c. Si quis Diaconus sine Episcopo vel Presbytero aliquos Baptizaverit Episcopus eos per Benedictionem perficere debebit The Council of Arles in France about the Year of Christ 309. c. 18. It is ordain'd that the Deacons shou'd be subject to the Presbyters And c. 19. That the Presbyters shou'd be subject to their Bishop and do nothing without his consent The Council of Arles in France about the Year of Christ 309. c. 18. It is ordain'd that the Deacons shou'd be subject to the Presbyters And c. 19. Presbyteri sine Conscientia Episcopi nihil faciant The Council of Ancyra A. D 315. A. D. 315. c. 1. and 2. Having Prohibited those Presbyters and Deacons who had in times of Persecution Offer'd to Idols from the Execution of their Office says that notwithstanding the Bishop may Dispence with them if he sees their Repentance sincere for that this Power is lodg'd in the Bishop The Council of Ancyra A. D 315. A. D. 315. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Council of Laodicea A. D. 321. A. D. 321. Can. 41. That no Clergy-man ought to Travel without the consent of his Bishop Can. 56. That the Presbyters ought not to go into the Church and sit in their Stales till the Bishop come and to go in with the Bishop The Council of Laodicea A. D. 321. A. D. 321. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The First and Great Council of Nice A. D. 325. Can. 16. That if any Presbyters or Deacons leave their own Churches they ought not to be receiv'd into another Church And that if any shall ordain such in his Ch. as belong to another without the consent of his proper Bishop let such Ordination be void The First and Great Council of Nice A. D. 325. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Council of Gangra 326. A. D. 326. Can. 6. If any have private Meetings out of the Church without their Preshyter let 'em be Anathematiz'd by the Sentence of the Bishop Can. 7. If any will take or give of the Fruits offer'd to the Church out of the Church without leave of the Bishop let him be Anathema The Council of Gangra 326. A. D. 326. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Council of Antioch A. D. 341. A. D. 341. Can. 3. If any Presbyter or Deacon leaving his own Parish shall go to others and refuse to return when his own Bishop shall summon him let him be Depos'd Can. 4. If any Bishop being Depos'd by a Synod or a Presbyter or Deacon being Depos'd by his own proper Bishop shall presume to exercise his Function let no room be left them either for Restauration or Apology Can. 5. If any Presbyter or Deacon despising his own Bishop shall separate himself from the Church and gather a Congregation of his own and set up a different Altar and shall refuse to submit himself to his Bishop calling him the first and second time let him be absolutely Depos'd Can. 12. If any Presbyter or Deacon being Depos'd by his own proper Bishop or a Bishop by the Synod dare Appeal to the King seeing his Appeal lies to a greater Synod of more Bishops where he is to expect the Examination of his Cause and to teserr the Decision to them But if making light of these he trouble the King with it such an one is worthy of no Pardon nor ought to be admitted to make any sort of Apology or to have hopes of his being ever Restor'd any more Can. 22. That a Bishop ought not to Ordain Presbyters or Deacons in another Bishop's Diocess without his leave The Council of Antioch A. D. 341. A. D. 341. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 In the Council of Carthage A. D. 348. C. xi The Case is put where a Deacon being accus'd shall be Try'd by three Neighbouring Bishops a Presbyter by six and a Bishop by twelve In the Council of Carthage A. D. 348. A tribus vicinis Episcopis si Diaconus est arguatur si Presbyter à sex si Episcopus à duedecim Consacerdotibus audiatur The second Oecumenical Council of Constantineple A. D. 381. Can. 6. Ranks those with Hereticks who tho' they prosess the true Faith yet run into Schism and gather Congregations apart from and in opposition to our Canonied Bishops The second Oecumenical Council of Constantineple A. D. 381. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Council of Carthage A. D. 419. Can. 3. Mentions the three distinct Orders of Bishop Presbyter and Deacon and compares them to the High-Priest Priests and Levites In the same manner they are as distinctly mention'd Can. 4. Bishop Presbyter and Deacon and their Powers distinct For Can. 6. It is declar'd not to be lawful for Presbyters to Consecrate Churches or Reconcile Penitents but if any be in great Danger and desirous to be Reconcil'd in the absence of the
atque Levitae in Templo fuerunt hoc sibi Episcopi Presbyteri Deaconi vendicent in Ecclesia Ad Nepotianum Esto sujectus Pontisici tuo quasi animi Parentem suscipe Advers Luciferianos Ecclaesiae salus in summi Sacerdotis Dignitate pendet cui nisi exors quaedam ab emnibus Eminens detur Potestas tot in Ecclaesia efficientur Schismata quot Sacerdotes Inde venit ut sine Episcopi jussione neque Presbyter neque Diaconus jus haebeant Baptizandi Ad eos qui per Presbyteros Diaconos Baptizati sunt Episcopus ad Invocationem sancti Spiritus manum Impositurus excurrat Epitaphium Nepotiani à Heliodorum Episcopum venerebatur In publico Episcopum domi Patrem noverat Inter Presbyteros Co-aequales primus in opere c. Principes futuros Ecclesiae Episcopos Nominavit In script Ecclesiast De Jacobo Jacobus post Passionem Domini statim ab Apostolis Hierosolimorum Episcopus est ordinatus Ep. 54 contra Montanum Apud nos Apostolorum locum Episcopi tenent St. Augustine Bishop of Hippo in Africa A. D. 420. Epistle 42. A. D. 420. The Root of the Christian Society is diffus'd throughout the World in a sure Propagation by the Seats of the Apostles and the Succession of the Bishops Quest veter novi Test N. 97. Ther is none but knows that our Saviour did Constitute Bishops in the Churches for before He Ascended into Heaven He laid His Hands upon the Apostles and Ordained them Bishops l. 7. c. 43. The Sentence of our Lord Jesus Christ is clear who sent His Apostles and gave to Them alone that Power which He had Received from His Father to whom we have Succeeded Governing the Church of God by the same Power Ep. 162. speaking of the Bishops being call'd Angels Rev. 2. he says By the voice of God the Governor of the Church is Praised under the Name of an Angel Of the words of our Lord Serm. 24. If He said to the Apostles alone he that despiseth you despiseth me then despise us But if those words of His come down even unto us and that He has Called us and Constituted us in their Place see that you do not despise us Against Faustus We embrace the Holy Scripture which from the Times of the Presence of Christ himself by the Disposition of the Apostles and the Successions of other Bishops from their Seats even to these Times has come down to us safely kept commended and honour'd through the whole Earth Against Petilian What has the Chair of the Church of Rome done to thee in which Peter sat and in which at this day Anastasius sits or of the Church of Jerusalem in which James did sit and in which John does now sit Against Julian Irenaeus Cyprian Reticius Olympius Hilary Gregory Basil John Ambrose these were Bishops Grave Learned c. Questions upon the Old Testament Quest 35. The King bears the Image of God as the Bishop of Christ Therefore while he is in that Station he is to be Honour'd if not for himself yet for his Order St. Augustine Bishop of Hippo in Africa A. D. 420. Epistle 42. Radix Christianae Societatis per sedes Apostolorum Successiones Episcoporum certa per orbem Propagatione diffunditur Nemo ignorat Salvatorem Episcopos Ecclesiis Instituisse Ipse enim priusquam Coelos Ascenderet Imponens Manus Apostolis ordinavit eos Episcopos Quod dixit Clarus à Muscula in Concilio Carthag Repetit August de Baptismo contra Donatist Manifesta est sententia Domini nostri Jesu Christi Apostolos suos mittentis ipsis solis Potestatem à Patre sibi traditam permittentis quibus nos nos Successimus eadem Potestate Ecclesiam Domini Gubernantes Divina voce sub nomine Angeli Laudatur Praepositus Ecclesiae De verbis Domini Serm. 24. Si solis Apostolis dixit Qui vos spernit me spernit spernite nos Si autem Sermo Ejus pervenit ad nos vocavit nos in eorum loco Constituit nos videte ne spernatis nos Contra Faust Lib. 33. cap. ult Scripturam amplectimur quae ab Ipsius Presentiae Christi temporibus per Dispensationes Apostolorum caeteras ab eorum sedibus Successiones Episcoporum usque ad haec tempora toto Orbe terrarum custodita commendata clarificata pervenit Lib. 2. contra Literas Petiliani C. 51. Cathedra quid tibi fecit Ecclesiae Romanae in qua Petrus sedit in qua hodie Anastasius sedet aut Ecclesiae Hierosolimitanae in qua Jacobus sedit in qua hodie Joannes sedet Vid. contra Crescon l. 2. c. 37. Contra Julianum l. 2 cap. ult Irenaeus Cyprianus Reticius Olympius Hilarius Gregorius Basilius Joannes Ambrosius isti erant Episcopi Docti Graves c. in Ecclesiae Regimine Clari. Quest. ex vet Test qu. 35. Dei enim Imaginem habet Rex sicut Episcopus Christi Quamdiu ergo in ea traditione est Honorandus est si non propter se vel propter Ordinem Let this suffice as to the Testimonies of particular Fathers of the Church tho' many more may be produc'd in that compass of time to which I have confin'd our present Inquiry And now that no Conviction might be wanting I will set down some of the Canons of the Councils in those times to the same purpose whereby it will appear that Episcopacy as distinct from and superior to Presbytery was not only the Judgment of the first Glorious Saints and Martyrs of Christ but the current Doctrin and Government of the Church both Greek and Latin in those early Ages of Christianity In the Canons of the Apostles the distinction of Bishop Presbyter and Deacon is so frequent that it is almost in vain to give Citations The 1st and 2d Can. shew the difference to be observ'd in the Ordaining of them Let a Bishop be Consecrated by two or three Bishops Let a Presbyter and Deacon be Ordained by one Bishop See the same Distinction of these Orders Can. 3.4 5 6 7 8. 17 18 25. 27 28 29. 32 33. 36. 42. 44 45. 51 52 53. 63. 68 69 70 83. Can. 15. shews the Jurisdiction of the Bishops over the Presbyters and Deacons If any Presbyter or Deacon or any of the Clerical Order shall leave his own Parish and go to another without the Bishop's leave he shall officiate no longer especially if he obey not the Bishop when he exhorts him to Return persisting in his Insolence and disorderly Behaviour but he shall be reduc'd there to Communicate only as a Lay-man And Can. 31. If any Presbyter despising his own Bishop shall gather Congregations apart and erect another Altar his Bishop not being Convict of Wickedness or Irreligion let him be Depos'd as an Ambitious Person for he is a Tyrant And likewise such other Clergy or Laity who shall joyn themselves to him shall be Excommunicated But let this be after the first second and third Admonition of the Bishop Can. 39.
from and Superior to Presbyters before the Vaudois in Piedmont the Hugonots in France the Calvinists in Geneva and the Presbyterians thence Transplanted in this last Age into Holland Scotland and England V. If it shou'd be retorted that neither is the Church of England without Opposers for that the Church of Rome opposes Her as do likewise our Dissenters Ans None of them do oppose Her in the Point we are now upon that is the Validity of Episcopal Ordination which the Church of Rome does own and the Presbyterians dare not deny it because they wou'd thereby overthrow all their own Ordinations for the Presbyters who Reformed as they call it from Bishops receiv'd their Ordination from Bishops And therefore tho' the Episcopal Principles do Invalidate the Ordination by Presbyters yet the Presbyterian Principles do not Invalidate the Ordination by Bishops So that the Validity of Episcopal Ordination stands safe on all sides even by the Confession of those who are Enemies to the Episcopal Order and in this the Bishops have no opposers Whereas on the other hand the Validity of the Presbyterian Ordinations is own'd by none but themselves and they have all the rest of the World as opposite to them Therefore to state the Case the most Impartially to receive Baptism from these Dissenters is at least a hazard of many Thousands to One as many as all the rest of Christianity are more than they But to receive it from the Bishops or Episcopal Clergy has no hazard at all as to its Validity even as own'd by the Presbyterians themselves SECT V. The Personal Sanctity of the Administrator of the Sacraments tho' highly Requisite on his Part yet not of Necessity as to the Receivers to Convey to them the Benefits of the Sacraments I. THE only Objection of those Quakers who are otherwise convinc'd of the Obligation of the Sacraments is the Necessity they think ther is of great Personal Holiness in the Administrators without which they cannot see how the Spiritual Effects of the Sacraments can be convey'd But I wou'd beseech them to consider how by this instead of referring the Glory to God and lessening the Performance of Man which I charitably presume and I am confident as to some of whom I speak that it is their true and sincere Intention but instead of that I do in great Good will invite them to reflect whither their well-intended Zeal has turn'd the Point of this Question even to over-magnifie Man and transfer the Glory of God unto His weak Instrument as if any the least Part of the Divine Vertue which God has annexed to His Sacraments did proceed from His Minister If this be not the meaning as sure it is not why so much stress laid upon the Sanctity of the Ministers Act. iii. 12. as if thro' their power or holiness the Holy Ghost was given II. To obviate this pretence our Saviour Christ chose a Devil John vi 70. to be one of His Apostles and he was sent to Baptize and work Miracles as well as the rest And those whom Judas did Baptize were no doubt as well Baptized and did partake of the Communication of the Spirit according to their Preparation for it as much as any who were Baptized by the other Apostles unless you will say that Christ sent him to Baptize who had no Authority to Baptize and that none shou'd receive Benefit by his Baptism which wou'd be to Cheat and Delude the People and is a great Blasphemy against Christ and a distrust of His Power as if it were Limited by the poor Instrument He pleases to make use off whereas III. His Greatness is often most Magnify'd in the meaness of the Instruments by which He works Thus He destroy'd Egypt by Frogs and Lice and the Philistines by Emerods and Mice and sent His Armies of Flies and Hornets to dispossess the Canaanites Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies Psal viii 2. that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger i.e. That the Enemies of God might be confounded when they saw His great Power Exerted by such weak and contemptible Instruments The Walls of Jericho the Type of Spiritual wickedness were thrown down by the blast of seven Rams Horns when blown by the Priests whom He had commanded And He rebuked the Iniquity of Balaam by the mouth of an Ass to shew that no Instruments are Ineffectual in His Hands and made use of the mouth of Balaam to Prophesie of Christ. For this cause says St. Barnabas in his Catholick Epistle c. 5. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 did Christ choose Men who were Exceeding great Sinners to be His Apostles to shew the Greatness of His Power and Grace and put the Inestimable Treasure of His Gospel into Earthen Vessels that the Praise might be to God and not to Men. IV. St. Paul rejoyced in Christ being Preached Ihil i. 16. tho' not sincerely by those who did it because God can bring Good out of Evil and by wicked Instruments Propagate His Gospel turning their malice even of the Devil himself to the furtherance of the Faith Otherwise the Apostle cou'd have no cause to Rejoyce in the Preaching of wicked Men if none cou'd receive benefit by it And he plainly supposes 1 Cor. ix 27. That a Man may save others by his Preaching and yet himself be a cast-away V. And so far as we can know or judge any thing we see daily Experience of this That God has touched Mens Hearts upon hearing the Truth spoken tho' by Men who were great Hypocrites and very Wicked And what reason can be given to the contrary Truth is Truth whoever speaks it And if my Heart be prepared the good Seed receives no evil Tincture of the Hand that sowed it And who can Limit God that His Grace may not go along with me in this I have heard some of the now separate Quakers confess that they have formerly felt very sensible Operations of the Spirit upon the Preaching of some of those whom they have since Detected of gross Errors and Hypocrisies and they now think it strange But this were enough to convince them that the wind bloweth where it listeth otherwise they must condemn themselves and confess that in all that time they had no true Participation of the Spirit of God but that what they mistook for it was a meer Delusion Or else confess that by the Truths which were spoken by these Ministers of Satan for they speak some Truths God might work a good Effect upon the Hearts of some Well-dispos'd tho' then Ignorant and much Deluded People If not so we must judge very severely of all those who live in Idolatrous or Schismatical Countries ther were great Prophets and good Men among the Ten Tribes And if the Words nay Miracles of Christ did render the Hearts of many yet more obdurate Matth. xii from v. 22. to v. 32. even to sin against the Holy