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A17985 Tithes examined and proued to bee due to the clergie by a diuine right VVhereby the contentious and prophane atheists, as also the dissembling hypocrites of this age, may learne to honour the ministers and not to defraude them, and to rob the Church. The contents heereof is set downe in the page next following. Written by George Carleton Batchelour in Diuinitie. Carleton, George, 1559-1628. 1606 (1606) STC 4644; ESTC S107556 55,614 94

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expound_v that_o say_n mat._n 23._o these_o thing_n you_o ought_v to_o have_v do_v and_o not_o to_o have_v leave_v the_o other_o undo_v to_o be_v a_o precept_n no_o less_o for_o the_o use_n of_o christion_n than_o jew_n out_o of_o which_o testimony_n we_o see_v plain_o what_o origen_n who_o hierom_n account_v the_o most_o learned_a of_o the_o father_n esteem_v of_o tithe_n of_o diverse_a thing_n so_o express_o affirm_v by_o he_o we_o may_v especial_o observe_v two_o first_o that_o origen_n who_o by_o hieroms_n account_n be_v bear_v in_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n 188._o have_v receive_v from_o his_o elder_n no_o other_o knowledge_n of_o this_o question_n than_o this_o that_o tithe_n be_v due_a among_o christian_n secundum_fw-la literam_fw-la aswell_o as_o among_o jew_n second_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o as_o soon_o as_o we_o first_o hear_v any_o thing_n speak_v of_o this_o question_n in_o the_o church_n we_o find_v that_o tithe_n be_v not_o account_v ceremonial_a or_o judicial_a but_o moral_a and_o perpetual_a precept_n for_o the_o church_n now_o as_o origen_n receive_v and_o report_v the_o