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debet_fw-la nec_fw-la se_fw-la ad_fw-la sacrilegi_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la sacrificsa_fw-la miscere_fw-la cum_fw-la ipsa_fw-la maximè_fw-la babeat_fw-la poteslatem_fw-la vel_fw-la eligendi_fw-la dignos_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la vel_fw-la indignos_fw-la recusandi_fw-la quod_fw-la &_o ipsum_fw-la videmus_fw-la de_fw-la divina_fw-la authoritate_fw-la descendere_fw-la etc._n etc._n a_o people_n obey_v the_o lord_n commandment_n and_o fear_v god_n ought_v to_o separate_v themselves_o from_o a_o wickeâ—_n minister_n and_o not_o join_v themselves_o to_o the_o divine_a service_n of_o a_o sacrilegious_a priest_n seeing_z they_o the_o people_n chief_o have_v power_n to_o choose_v worthy_a minister_n and_o to_o refuse_v unworthy_a one_o which_o thing_n also_o we_o see_v come_v fiâ—_n divine_a authority_n etc._n etc._n lo_o what_o cyprian_n judgement_n be_v of_o the_o people_n power_n &_o right_v in_o the_o make_n of_o minister_n he_o with_o divers_a other_o his_o fellow-bishop_n do_v here_o profess_v 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