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A52440 Two treatises concerning the divine light the first, being an answer to a letter of a learned Quaker, which he is pleased to call, A just reprehension to John Norris for his unjust reflections on the Quakers, in his book entituled, Reflections upon the conduct of human life, &c., the second, being a discourse concerning the grossness of the Quakers notion of the light within, with their confusion and inconsistency in explaining it / by John Norris ... Norris, John, 1657-1711.; Norris, John, 1657-1711. Grossness of the Quaker's principle. 1692 (1692) Wing N1276; ESTC R2996 64,661 150

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