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A31490
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Some observations on William Curtis with three queries to T.C. and the other Quakers in communion with him.
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W. C.
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1697
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Wing C170; ESTC R32533
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some_o observation_n on_o thomas_n curtis_n with_o three_o query_n to_o t._n c._n and_o the_o other_o quaker_n in_o communion_n with_o he_o i._o thomas_n curtis_n be_v to_o be_v blame_v for_o what_o he_o act_v and_o do_v at_o kings-heath-meeting_a october_n the_o four_o 1696._o or_o he_o be_v not_o to_o be_v blame_v the_o print_a narrative_n give_v a_o account_n of_o the_o most_o material_a thing_n that_o pass_v in_o discourse_n ii_o if_o he_o be_v to_o blame_v for_o maintain_v such_o erroneous_a doctrine_n and_o also_o in_o public_a whether_o all_o those_o that_o be_v his_o friend_n or_o pretend_v so_o to_o be_v and_o take_v his_o part_n ought_v not_o to_o disow_v he_o till_o he_o have_v make_v a_o public_a confession_n and_o acknowledgement_n under_o his_o hand_n that_o what_o he_o there_o maintain_v and_o challenge_v five_o thousand_o to_o meet_v half_a way_n between_o his_o dwelling_n and_o i_o to_o maintain_v be_v damnable_a heresy_n otherwise_o to_o be_v deem_v equal_o guilty_a with_o t._n c._n and_o to_o hold_v such_o error_n as_o t._n c._n do_v or_o be_v connivers_n and_o cloaker_n of_o they_o iii_o it_o appear_v from_o his_o letter_n under_o his_o hand_n that_o he_o act_v contrary_a to_o it_o iv_o he_o never_o give_v a_o meeting_n to_o his_o last_o challenge_n october_n the_o four_o 1696._o though_o desire_v and_o urge_v to_o do_v it_o by_o two_o letter_n the_o second_o he_o never_o answer_v v._o he_o promise_v the_o people_n oftentimes_o he_o will_v never_o leave_v they_o as_o long_o as_o he_o be_v able_a to_o come_v and_o if_o not_o able_a to_o come_v be_v say_v he_o will_v send_v one_o and_o then_o at_o last_o come_v and_o tell_v they_o he_o will_v pay_v the_o rent_n no_o long_o then_o to_o michaelmas_n post_n contrary_a to_o what_o i_o hear_v he_o tell_v the_o landlord_n that_o when_o he_o be_v mind_v to_o leave_v it_o he_o shall_v have_v half_a a_o year_n warning_n or_o if_o he_o be_v mind_a t._n c._n shall_v hold_v it_o no_o long_o he_o shall_v give_v half_a a_o year_n warning_n and_o yet_o contrary_a to_o all_o he_o throw_v it_o up_o october_n the_o four_o 1696._o vi_o in_o that_o meeting_n the_o four_o of_o october_n he_o say_v none_o be_v against_o his_o doctrine_n but_o w._n c._n and_o then_o j._n r._n speak_v than_o he_o say_v none_o but_o he_o and_o i_o see_v what_o a_o shepherd_n this_o be_v to_o leave_v a_o flock_n as_o he_o say_v because_o two_o oppose_a his_o gross_a antichristian_a error_n vii_o he_o keep_v not_o to_o his_o former_a challenge_n nor_o to_o his_o latter_a nor_o to_o his_o letter_n and_o yet_o we_o do_v not_o find_v that_o either_o the_o reading-quakers_n belong_v to_o sun-lane_n nor_o some_o of_o the_o nâwberry-quakers_n have_v disow_v he_o but_o rather_o cloak_n and_o connive_v at_o it_o viii_o whether_o any_o hold_v such_o gross_a antichristian_a error_n and_o damnable_a heresy_n ought_v not_o as_o much_o to_o be_v disow_v as_o a_o man_n charge_v with_o adultery_n ix_o whether_o such_o of_o t._n c.'s_n communion_n that_o do_v not_o disow_v he_o be_v not_o equal_o guilty_a with_o himself_o and_o how_o can_v any_o christian_a people_n ever_o think_v they_o be_v sincere_a until_o they_o disow_v he_o for_o a_o preacher_n or_o that_o he_o make_v a_o public_a and_o sincere_a retract_n of_o those_o gross_a error_n t._n c._n public_o maintain_v at_o kings-heath_n meeting_n october_n the_o four_o x._o whether_o that_o be_v not_o a_o great_a cheat_n that_o t._n c.'s_n name_n shall_v be_v to_o a_o print_a sheet_n wherein_o many_o of_o those_o thing_n he_o maintain_v at_o kings-heath_n he_o contradict_v and_o yet_o have_v not_o retract_v those_o gross_a error_n he_o not_o only_o the_o four_o of_o october_n maintain_v but_o many_o of_o they_o at_o divers_a meeting_n before_o at_o the_o same_o place_n as_o many_o can_v testify_v to_o the_o truth_n of_o xi_o t._n c._n say_v to_o the_o people_n october_n the_o four_o 1696._o he_o be_v not_o angry_a nor_o in_o a_o passion_n but_o say_v he_o have_v clear_v his_o mind_n which_o be_v the_o more_o to_o be_v note_v that_o these_o gross_a error_n be_v firm_o believe_v by_o he_o and_o long_a and_o deep_o root_v in_o he_o for_o many_o year_n for_o now_o he_o say_v some_o say_v we_o keep_v our_o meaning_n hide_v but_o say_v t._n c._n i_o declare_v open_o and_o after_o the_o conference_n be_v over_o some_o considerable_a time_n one_o of_o the_o meet_v say_v to_o t._n c._n sure_a thou_o be_v in_o a_o passion_n no_o say_v t._n c._n i_o be_v not_o all_o which_o confirm_v his_o firm_a belief_n in_o these_o sadducean_n and_o gross_a antichristian_a error_n mention_v in_o our_o one_o blow_n more_o etc._n etc._n xii_o what_o ground_n have_v t._n c._n to_o have_v challenge_v i_o to_o stand_v ãâã_d if_o he_o have_v not_o oppose_v those_o great_a fundamental_a doctrine_n i_o use_v write_v to_o he_o about_o near_o six_o month_n before_o and_o it_o be_v evident_a ââis_n be_v their_o difference_n at_o read_v about_o some_o of_o these_o fundamental_a point_n as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o a_o print_a sheet_n by_o w._n p._n r._n s._n ãâã_d j._n contain_v twelve_o query_n with_o their_o answer_n to_o their_o ââeriâs_n and_o also_o by_o a_o print_a letter_n to_o thomas_n curtis_n w._n s._n ãâã_d c._n etc._n etc._n wherein_o their_o hypocrisy_n be_v lay_v open_a and_o discover_v ând_v in_o my_o narrative_n entitle_v one_o blow_n more_o etc._n etc._n xiii_o t._n c._n do_v usual_o tell_v we_o before_o the_o four_o of_o october_n 1696._o âhat_n he_o know_v no_o other_o jesus_n but_o a_o spiritual_a jesus_n who_o the_o heaven_n ãâã_d heaven_n can_v not_o contain_v and_o also_o do_v use_v to_o tell_v we_o he_o can_v ââke_v no_o distinction_n of_o the_o godhead_n and_o manhood_n and_o not_o only_o ââe_v four_o of_o october_n 1696._o he_o say_v he_o can_v not_o tell_v whether_o it_o ãâã_d the_o godhead_n or_o manhood_n that_o suffer_v but_o i_o hear_v t._n c._n maintain_v the_o same_o and_o in_o the_o same_o word_n long_o before_o at_o read_v ãâã_d ben._n coal_n chamber_n to_o g._n k._n myself_o and_o other_o one_a query_n what_o do_v thomas_n curtis_n and_o the_o reading-quakersââblish_a ââblish_z that_o for_o they_o call_v the_o reading-quakers_n vindicate_v &_o c_o do_v you_o do_v it_o that_o the_o world_n shall_v know_v you_o have_v change_v our_o principle_n and_o that_o you_o do_v now_o believe_v otherwise_o then_o ââmerly_o or_o do_v you_o do_v it_o to_o make_v your_o hearer_n and_o the_o world_n believe_v you_o have_v change_v your_o faith_n and_o yet_o have_v not_o âât_n do_v it_o only_o to_o delude_v the_o people_n and_o continue_v to_o believe_v ââe_z same_o principle_n thomas_n curtis_n maintain_v at_o kings-heathâeeting_a âeeting_z and_o challenge_v 5000_o to_o maintain_v it_o by_o dispute_v with_o ââem_n 2d_o query_n whether_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v your_o print_a vindication_n be_v but_o a_o mere_a cheat_n and_o no_o sincere_a confession_n of_o âhat_n you_o believe_v and_o t._n c_n name_n to_o it_o be_v the_o more_o to_o be_v noââd_v and_o remarkable_a and_o whether_o b._n c._n be_v not_o a_o great_a hypoââe_n who_o have_v some_o time_n before_o print_v that_o faith_n in_o christ_n âeath_n and_o suffering_n resurrection_n and_o ascension_n be_v absolute_o necessary_a to_o every_o man_n and_o woman_n but_o when_o afterward_o he_o ââme_n to_o oppose_v we_o he_o answer_v that_o what_o he_o have_v print_v in_o that_o book_n be_v not_o his_o faith_n and_o that_o he_o have_v do_v it_o only_o ãâã_d please_v george_n keith_n 3d._n query_n whether_o t._n c._n do_v keep_v his_o word_n according_a to_o hiâ_n letter_n date_v april_n the_o 29_o 1696._o to_o w._n c._n print_v at_o the_o end_n oâ_n one_o blow_v more_o etc._n etc._n second_o whether_o he_o have_v not_o break_v hiâ_n word_n as_o much_o in_o his_o public_a challenge_n at_o kings-heath-meeting_a to_o meet_v 5000_o to_o dispute_n and_o maintain_v his_o principle_n then_o assert_v and_o w._n c._n urge_v he_o with_o two_o letter_n to_o perform_v his_o challenge_n which_o he_o never_o do_v whether_o he_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v disow_v for_o a_o preacher_n till_o he_o make_v a_o public_a and_o sincere_a acknowledgement_n and_o retract_v of_o those_o gross_a error_n there_o maintain_v and_o whether_o you_o that_o be_v his_o hearer_n and_o still_o keep_v in_o communion_n with_o he_o and_o have_v not_o disow_v he_o for_o a_o preacher_n be_v not_o equal_o guilty_a with_o he_o and_o believe_v the_o same_o he_o maintaineâ_n at_o kings-heath_n or_o be_v cloaker_n and_o connivers_n at_o it_o and_o whether_o you_o must_v not_o be_v so_o deem_v till_o you_o disow_v he_o for_o ãâã_d preacher_n or_o he_o make_v a_o public_a acknowledgement_n he_o have_v change_v his_o faith_n and_o confess_v he_o be_v not_o of_o the_o same_o principle_n he_o maintain_v at_o kings-heath_n the_o four_o of_o october_n 1696._o and_o divers_a time_n before_o at_o the_o place_n many_o of_o they_o which_o many_o can_v testify_v answer_v direct_o to_o these_o query_n and_o do_v not_o as_o t._n c._n do_v at_o kings-heath-meeting_a who_o toâd_v w._n c._n those_o great_a fundamental_o in_o w._n c._n be_v letter_n be_v quibble_n that_o the_o world_n may_v know_v what_o faith_n you_o profess_v w._n c._n lamborn-woodlands_n may_v the_o 13_o 1697._o london_n print_v by_o j._n bradford_n in_o new-street_n without_o bishopsgate_n 1697._o