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A19569 A triall of our church-forsakers. Or A meditation tending to still the passions of unquiet Brownists, upon Heb.10.25 Wherein is iustified, against them, that the blessed Church of England 1 Is a true Church. 2 Hath a true ministry. 3 Hath a true worship. By Robert Abbot ... Abbot, Robert, 1588?-1662? 1639 (1639) STC 60; ESTC S100380 140,135 286

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kept back none of thy counsell I have not strengthened the hands of wickednesse I have loved the godly as such though I have hated their indiscretions as well as my owne J have been kinde and courteous to those that have ill rewarded me Onely this is the truth J have loved the Church of God amongst us and the whole governement ecclesiasticall and temporall If any thing have appeared harsh I have excused it a● I was bound I have not indured to heare publike scandalls to bee layed upon them I have opposed gainesayers with earnestnesse of spirit others will say like a man but J will say and J am sure like a minister This hath fallen upon darke melancholick high lookt and sowre natures and so hath suffered a disgust Some have beene sowred but sweetned againe with the trade of the good word of God and the practise of affability Some have beene estranged till this contracted folly hath beene digested Some have complayned of chiding when my nature can chide nothing but sinne and disorder and some have hardned themselves in error and schisme To crosse me I feare and my tenets for the Church they have revenged upon themselves What these few will gaine in the issue I doe not know This I doubt that they will repent if greatnesse of stomack will let them looke backe againe when it is too late But for you my good people in whose hearts God hath writ mee by the preaching of Christ and his truth ye have not so runne in vaine Ye will not be deluded with their pretences and sweet words Yee have heard formerly from me all these grounds and oppositions of Brownisme which here J present unto you and here have J thus addressed them for you that they may keepe you from that snare of simple ones and that they may ever lie by you when J am dead and with my Christ to keepe you upright in the waies of our blessed Church I know that some of you beare a deare and tender affection to these few seduced ones though now they will not heare you Ye have lived in the same Church together like friends ye have delighted in the same word of God prayer and sacraments yee have sweetly comforted one another in the private communion of Saints and ye see that still they seeme to live unblameable lives towards men and that they pretend to delight still in the word of Christ which is the onely rule of salvation These things will give great advantage to them to worke upon you and to you to keepe intimate familiarity with them But in the feare of God I beseech you take heede weigh well what in this discourse J say and God give you understanding in all things Jt is no small charge to unchurch a church to unminister a ministery and to unworship a worship They must be sure of their hands that they can and will answer it to Christ with confidence when they have done it To doe it with a trembling heart is to doe it against conscience To doe it with full assurance of understanding is to doe it with sure warrants and precepts of Christ If they have such against our Church I am sure we shall finde them if not let them goe if they will but follow not them in the breach To keepe you out of it I have done as J doe and to gaine them too if they will not bee resolved without grounds J am sure they shall have no iust cause to except against my dealing with them They may except against me as an English Priest and Bishops creature as I heare but shall never against my course with them I have dealt with them with matter more then with words and because they pretend to two things to the scriptures and to conscience and I know a third thing in them weakenesse Therefore have J dealt with them accordingly J have compared scripture with scripture to finde out the truth but cannot finde theirs I have dealt conscionably with them in fighting with that onely weapon against them of their owne choosing the word of Christ And because they are weake I have not shewed my selfe a man in giving them any bitter language or exasperating termes As the barking of one dogge begets the barking of another though it bee against the Moone so is it with high words and therefore it were glorious and above a man if it were layed downe on all sides and partakings But as the waves of the sea when they meete not with a rocke but with the sands they returne backe-againe with a watery flash so have J done by them that all our matters may be done in love Indeede I have taken their affected name out of their mouthes separatists and given their right one unto them Brownists and this J have done out of conscience I finde by experience that the word Separation doth winne to their cause For when people of strong affections and weaker Iudgements doe reade of the necessity of separation in the scriptures and can not discerne how we have made separation from heathenisme and when we have beene thrust out of Rome because wee were unwilling to bee so bad as shee have maintayned our just standing from her in a divided way they have beene willing to hearken to a separating plott Therefore Browne being the leader amongst us to this breach if now time hath not made it worse then he intended it J can not nickname but inconscience call the childe after the fathers name Jt was Christs course ye are of your father the Devill his children ye are and so must I. Jt is true also that afterwards yee may finde some opinions gone against that are held by some that keepe Communion with our Church as of a true Church But I am sure they are the Brownists opinions also to whom I speake All that I can say therefore for that is this Jt may bee that some of you know or have heard of that Noble Moralizers fable of Amphiolus who when hee was in all his military accoutraments to give combate as hee thought to Argalus a Knight of the Sunne This mans wife dressed her selfe in her husbands armour and gave her husbands enemy meeting Amphiolus encounters valiantly gave a wound in the necke closeth overthrowes and gives a mortall wound in the body But when hee opened the armour viewes his Conquest and saw it was faire Parthenia Argalus his wife he could have no comfort of the day it became not a man so to ruine a woman Such is my case heere J say as a father of old I dare not write against a Bishop of my communion the love of brotherly peace is glorious in the Church even among men that otherwise differ in opinion But if they put on the armes of an enemy because they will bee so with whom I fight for truth I cannot helpe it if they meete with a blow though I glory not in it yea am sorry that there should be any such cause I
have now done and commend you all to the word of Gods grace which is able to save your soules though no Bownist nor Anabaptist had ever beene hatched Live in peace and the God of peace shall bee with you Give not way to any opinion whereby the unity of spirit and the bond of love may be broken Play the men be strong and of a good courage Have prepared hearts to dye for Christs cause but to bee sticklers in such poore quarrels as can neither bring peace to the Church nor comfort to you at last abhorre Wee must all appeare before the Iudgement seate of God where colours shall doe us no good because we shall be iudged naked where pretences shall doe us no good because the bookes shall bee opened and where no authors or favourers of Sects or Schismes shall shelter us because we must stand before the man Christ Iesus to whom I ever leave you and in whose name ye shall have the prayers of Yours to be used in the service of the Gospel ROBERT ABBOT The Contents of this Meditation is thus summed up In Section 1. The state of Christians and their care to keepe it Section 2. The way to keepe a Christian state is publick communion in assemblies Section 3. The vice of those that forsake publick communion and first of the prophane Section 4. The forsakers of our assemblies that would be accounted holy and first of their name of Iustice Brownists which is due to them Section 5. Of that name they would have Separatists and how unjustly it is expected and assumed by them Section 6. Of the Brownists opinions upon which they forsake our Church and first whether we be a true Church Section 7. Of their first exception against us about the nature of a visible Church Section 8. Of their second exception against us about our enterance into a true Church where of their covenant Section 9. A question by the way because some of them question it about baptizing of Bastards of impenitent Christians Section 10. Of their third exception against us about the head of our Church Christ and the King under him Section 11. Of their fourth exception against us about the members of our Church where is debated of wicked professors comming to the Lords table Section 12. Of their last exception against our Church about the government of it and first of the power of Governement whether in the whole assembly Section 13. Of their exceptions against the persons governing Bishops and the exercise of their goverment in ordination excommunication imposing oathes Section 14. Of their second opinion upon which they separate from us because wee have not a true ministery where of ordeyners titles callings infirmities and maintenance Section 15. Of their last opinion upon which they separate from us because wee have not a true worship where of Ceremonies of order and significant and of stinted prayers Section 16. Of their maine exception in their former argument to witt our common prayer booke where of the order of divine service and their exceptions against kneeling Crosse and responses or answers in Baptisme Section 17. Of the use that is to bee made of all good assemblies to learne consideration and exhortation because the day is approaching which is applied to our foasakers A Postscript GOod Reader there are two texts of scripture whereupon the Brownists do build their frame besides many other in particular questions These thou shalt finde cleared as I judge in conscience in most Sections as thou goest along These are 1 Cor. 6.17 whereupon they ground their separation and Mat. 18.15 16 17 18. 1 Cor. 5. whereupon they ground the new Parish discipline Thou shalt finde these cleared Section 5. and 12. But before thou readest I would intreate thee to correct the errours of the presse printed at the latter end of the booke and then learne with me or learne me A TRIALL OF OVR CHVRCH FORSAKERS OR A meditation to still the passions of unquiet Brownists upon Heb. 10.25 Not forsaking the assembling of our selves together as the manner of some is but exhorting one another and so much the more as yee see the day approaching SECTION I. The estate of Christians and their care to keepe it THe better our estate is the more wee must labour to keepe it A poore man takes no great thought for iron bolts and barres a wooden latch a pin serves his turne and yet hee sleepes securely A rich man whose treasure is great and whose heart is nailed to it hath lockes bolts and barres of strongest assurance Thus must it be with a Christian He is not now in a beggerly estate he is crowned with loving kindnesses and tender mercies unspeakable He hath liberty to enter into heaven hee hath a way made to leade him thither and he hath an able guide for his conduct The holiest is set before him His liberty to enter is purchased by the bloud of Iesus His way thither is Christs flesh consecrated by the fulnesse of the God-head dwelling in him bodily His guide is the high-priest over the house of God Christ the Lord Christ alone purchased this liberty he alone is this way by the marriage of our flesh hee alone is this guide who hath authority over the house of God and cannot bee defeated His liberty is of the surest tenure by purchase with the bloud of the sonne of God His way is of the firmest sooting surest foundation and best making by Christ himself And his guide is truth it selfe one that cannot deceive even our Iesus Christ who is all and in all What therefore should hee now doe Let them get an estate in meanes offered which may present to God this coate o● armes A field of heavenly truth and sincerity the royallest in Gods eies charged with a cleane washed body opened for all the world to looke upon In the midst an heart sprinckled from an ill conscience breathing out by degrees a full assurance of faith And because he is a souldier and many enemies will assault his colours to win them that he may never give them againe let him not only have such christian armes but hold fast the profession of his faith without wavering that he doe not loose his crowne and honour with Christ But Lord how hard is this The Christian is weak and his enemies many mighty It is true therefore let him be strong in the Lord and run to such meanes as God hath appointed who knowes best how to give and how to guard all his graces given And what meanes are they The publike and private communion of Saints mentioned in these words The publicke is not to forsake the assembling of our selves together The private is upon due consideration of our selves to exhort one another These will make the christian keepe his ground not loose his colours not quit the field but overcome in living and bee more then Conquerours in dying
those rams-hornes of old when we are in publicke worship There yee have not onely the spirit promised which will lead you into all saving truth convince convert and comfort you till yee are of full stature in Christ but yee have many hands to help you in confession supplication deprecation intercession and giving of thankes There ye have many encouragements to hold on in the way of Christ There is the word to promise sacraments to confirme prayer to procure and many of Gods people to give you the right hand of fellowship till you come to your journeyes end The first step to apostacy is the neglect of publick assemblies As a man that hath an inclination to take wicked courses withdrawes himselfe from good company as Iudas when he went out from Christ and his disciples and yoaked with the high-priest and elders so if a man encline to warp hee declines the assemblies of Gods people as one wearie of such a course But if hee stick unto them his hands are strengthened to hold God fast by the word of precept promise and correction by the sacraments wherein a bargaine is strook betweene God and us by the prayers of our selves and others which bring God neere to helpe and by the examples of others which have a compelling vertue to good as well as ill When therefore yee consider this bundle of profit yee cannot wonder that Gods people have so constantly tyed themselves to watch at the gate and wait at the postes of the doores where publicke worship hath beene prepared Oh that all Gods people that ate good and would be better would lay these things to heart and not forsake our assembling together God workes by these meanes and if wee forsake them wee forsake the hands of the God of strength which are in them stirred up to come and help us Forsake church assemblies and yee turne your backes upon Gods face angels saints and comforting acts of worship Forsake church assemblies and ye sad the hearts of Gods people strengthen the hands of wickednesse and shew no reverence to worship Forsake church-assemblies and yee let loose thousand of temptations upon you against faith and manners the Devill will take you upon his owne ground You wil say happily that great presence and profit is talked of but ye see none nor feele any upon you It maybe so yet without the fault of our assemblies and with the fault of none but your unworthy selves Take therfore this advice in Gods feare and speed better hereafter First come with prepared hearts that is hearts unloaded of the guilt of wilfull sins hearts standing in awe of Gods presence and worshipping in feare and hearts sincerely purposing to bee better Yee know Gods advice lay apart all filthinesse and superfluity of naughtinesse and receive with meeknesse the ingraffed word which is able to save your souls Ye know Peters proposition now are we all here present before God to heare all things that are commanded thee of God and Daevids practise In thy feare wil I worship towards thy holy temple Ye know the prophecy that went of you of old and Davids resolution to keepe the law yea to observe it with his whole heart according to grace given Do but you thus and yee shall find presence and profit Secondly bring an humble soule along with you to God house If God doe meete with you in our assemblies hee acknowledgeth a Publican before a Pharisee hee calls no man Benjamin the sonne of his right hand but those whom their owne hearts call Benoni in their humility hee salutes them not Naomi beautifull who doe not humbly feele themselves Marah bitter The humble God wil teach and the humbled God will lift up for he fills the hungry with good things Bring but such senses and yee shall see presence and profit But if yee bee swift to heare and not slow to speak slow to wrath God sends such rich ones emptie away and casts such mighty ones from their thrones Thirdly carry your hearts along thorough the whole service Loose your hearts and loose your comforts in any thing ye do It was sweetly sung of old rejoyce the soule of thy servant for unto thee doe I lift up my soule Let that plummet runne downe to the ground and the wheeles of your actions will not runne to your content Therefore do but you come with prepared hearts humbled soules and binde your hearts for hearty service in the whole and then the presence in our assemblies shall bee for you and the profit for you too as well as for others who are thus vertuous as not to forsake our assemblings together SECT 3. The vice of those that forsake publick Communion 1 of the prophane ALl that can be said will not prevaile with all There are so many vices to overwhelm that as it was of old so is it stil it is the manner of some to forsake our assemblings together The Apostle saw it of old and laboured against it as an enemy to perseverance in the unity of faith and manners we see it stil and must labour against this act of many vices I le speake thorough Gods helpe but of two sorts of persons too neere unto us who give themselves unto this fault the first are prophane the second would be accounted truely religious The prophane shew themselves by foure degrees of forsaking our assemblies The first is coming to our assemmblies like those that are unwilling These that doe so are not altogether withdrawn in body but in heart are too farre from us The godly say let us go speedily and pray before the Lord they are like the Isles that wait for the law because they are willing people But they come as if they were in fetters and bolts like Zachariahs women pressed into an Epha with a talent of lead Lord how slow is their pace as if it were to the jaile or Bridewel The second is loving to be any where rather then in the assembly Surely when any act this though sometimes they come yet they forsake apace Gods people cannot rejoyce in such commers when God told Ezekiel that hee should goe to a rebellious people that were unwilling to submit hee went in bitternesse and indignation of spirit Such needes must be the movings of the heart of the assembly about such commers These thinke not that they should come to doe homage to God as David presseth give give unto the Lord glory strength worship due unto his name They thinke not that hee that despiseth the ministery done in assemblies despiseth not man but Christ therefore they love any meetings rather then them They account church-assemblies rather matters of complement then necessitie They need no soule reparations so their bodies bee fat and well-liking Wee read of one Victorinus of old who would bee a Christian but frequented not christian assemblies But godly Simplicianus met him
lashed who would rashly father it to such a breach yea and they tell us that they will have their name from scriptures not from men and will be called they of the separation In this I am yet glad that they love the scriptures more then men and I humbly pray that all that would be accounted good men would not tell us what this good man and that held and said but what Jesus Christ hath left to be held in the sure word of God that their faith may not stand in the wisedome of men But yet before we believe them we must know in what scripture their name of separation stands We reade indeed that God saith to Israel I am the Lord thy God which separate you from other people which Salomon thus expounds thou didst separate them from among all the people of the earth But are not all christians separated thus as well as they from Iewes Turkes Heathens Israel was not separate from raigning sinne and sinners but for profession and service of the true God For even then God said of them yee have tempted me these tenne times and have not harkened unto my voyce this evill congregation are gathered together against mee thou art a stiffenecked people thou hast provoked me to wrath and I was angry with thee to destroy thee and I hope all christians are of no worse separation then this We reade againe that Paul at Ephesus departed from the wicked and separated the disciples It is well it was an Apostle who had an universall Jurisdiction by immediate Call and not private persons who may not doe as hee It was well it was Paul who went to Jewish synagogues to have spirituall communion and preached none other thing but that which Moses and the Prophets did say should come to passe and not his owne dreames But for his separating the disciples we reade he separated them from divers not from all and that from those that were hardened and believed not and spake evill of faith in Christ before the multitude as the text saith What is this to our church wherein they cannot find one member that believes not in Christ at least doctrinally nor one that speakes evill of the way of believing in Christ though thousands justly speak evill of their way which is the thing in question Wee reade also againe that renowned place come out from among them and be yee separate and touch no uncleane thing and I will receive you saith the Lord. For what fellowship hath righteousnesse with unrighteousnesse and what agreement hath light with darknesse But this will not affoord them the name of separatists neither Looke to the persons that must be separated from They are heathenish Infidels unbelievers Idolaters in utter darkenesse and so not acknowledging the true God And are wee in the church of England such Doe wee not pr●fesse saving truth Doe we not look from the first to the last to bee saved onely by Christ If any professe they know God and by workes deny him yet shall not all things be pure to them that are pure Looke next to the persons that are charged to separate They are the christian Corinthians to whom the Apostle gives sweete words The church of God called to be saints a gracious people by Iesus Christ called to the fellowship of Gods son in Christ Christs owne begotten in Christ Iesus thorough the Gospell the seale of mine Apostleship in the Lord whom I praise because yee keepe the ordinances and who are full of godly sorrow with the signes of it yet will these Corinthians justifie the church of England by their wicked vices both in publicke and in their private meetings as I shall if God please sh●w hereafter Consider now that this christian church which was commanded to separate from heathens in their Idol-feasts and abominable atheisme was yet in something worse then the heathens themselves yet doth hee not teach them to separate one from another in christian duties of piety and charity but to redresse each other as they could and onely to separate from the heathens that they may be all knowne to be professed and not dissembled christians Looke lastly to the matter the Apostle treateth of It is to warne christians from having fellowship with the unfruitfull workes of darkenesse and to reprove them in their places in word judgement affection and conversation That with which they must have no fellowship Paul termeth unrighteousnesse darknesse Belial Idols The way whereby they may have fellowship with them he termes yoaking concord partaking and agreement And it plainely appeares that it is as murh as if he had said yee that are christians must not be with the unrighteous men of darkenesse sonnes of Belial and Idolaters as if ye were yoaked in their society living at one partaking and agreeing with them in their wicked course How I pray can they raise a name of separation to themselves from hence except they can prove that all of us live in unrighteousnesse and darknesse in league with Satan and in idolatrie and that we as paires and couples are linked together and partake of these evils or how can we justly give them that name of Separatists except wee will grant our selves to bee such let them bee from their first father Brownists and because they will be of the number and manner of those some that forsake the assembling of our selves together therefore let us with a good conscience and as quiet a spirit as their cause will permit examine their grounds by the word of God SECT 6. Of the Brownists opinions upon which they forsake our church 1. Because we are not a true church These grounds of Brownisme they referre to three heads to wit our church our ministery and our worship 1 They deny us to have a true church 2 They deny us to have a true ministery 3 They deny us to have a true worship If this charge were true surely they might say as David to Eliab Is there not a cause But whether it bee not most false let a good conscience guided by the word of God Judge First they deny that wee have a true church And though wee being in possession and they labouring to cast us out we might put them to the proofe yet shall I by Gods helpe tender them this one reason among many to prove that we have a true church Where there is the true matter and form of a true church there is a true church For this cannot be denied that the matter and forme of a true man make a true man that is the body and soule united so must it be in the church But our church hath the true matter and forme of a true church and therefore is a true church It is denied by the Brownists that wee have such matter and forme and it is proved thus first for the matter The true matter of a true church is such as professe saving
house though they bee worse then Peter in his worse part not walking with a right foote yea though too many of them bee as bad as Simon Magus who joyned to Philip and was baptized When God sent forth his servants to invite guests there was the calling of a church When good and bad that were invited came to the wedding feast there was their profession This made up a visible church though many were called and few chosen but left in their chosen wayes to their ruine When wise and foolish virgines came of duty to attend their Lord though five only had lasting oile and five had but lampes only there was a true visible church When the sower went out to sowe the word of God though some fell in the high-wayes and some among the stones some among thornes and but some in good grounds yet all these professing hearers made up a true visible church When a man sowed good seed and his enemie sowed tares or blasted corne which sprang up as from the same roote which must grow together till the harvest there is a true visible church When a net was cast into the sea and gathered together fish both good and bad good to bee reserved in vessels and bad to be cast away there also is a true visible church the kingdome of heaven upon earth The word comes and when it is received it makes the church by profession a candlesticke a citie set on an hill which cannot be hid especially when those that receive it are baptized which is the seale of profession As open profession of men who say they are willing to fight under the colours of a captaine and therefore take their military sacrament are a true visible army though many runne away in the day of battell so is it in the visible church which is as acompany of two armies Cains Chams Iudasses Simon the sorcerers and Demas their profession made them all members of the visible church with Abel Noah Peter Philip and Paul It is true that afterwards they either went backe or were throwne out by justice but the question is what made them members of the visible church and that was joyning in profession of the truth as the profession of the same trade art craft science or mystery makes men of such a society though some are more worthy and some lesse This therefore being Gods truth concerning the nature of the visible church and the Brownists visible church being coupled of many falshoods whatsoever they say cannot helpe their new church nor hurt our old church which is built upon the rocke the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles Jesus Christ himselfe being the chiefe corner stone SECT 8. Brownists second exception against us about the entrance into a true church NExt they object against us the entrance into a true church Wee should say they have entred into the state of a visible church by voluntary covenant upon knowledge to advance the kingdome of Christ and so to have a right to the name of a true church and to the priviledges of it for us and our children but wee were forced in our first planting by edicts lawes and proclamations and yet admitted members and our posteritie after us by baptisme even of such of us as are not members indeed Put case this great plea were true at first yet may not an after mending of what was first amisse rectifie and confirme all Things may bee ill done at first which being once done may bee of force and being well carried may end with a blessing A child marries without consent of parents and it is wickedly done yet when it is done and sealed with the bed by free consent shall it not bee of force Nay doe not parents looke upon their courses and if they see a good carriage and good successe doe they not like it well and follow it with their blessings Shall wee make God an harder master will hee not love Iacob though hee got the blessing by deceit God purposed him the blessing and though hee got not the possession the right way shall his purpose faile God forbid yea let God be true and every man a lyar Iacobs unbeliefe makes not the faith of God of none effect So might God deale with us Hee purposed to us the covenant of the Gospell and wee came not to it the right way yet when we are in it in the place where it was said unto us ye are not my people wee shall bee called the children of the living God Put case a childe bee cut out of the mothers belly and come not the ordinary way shal the father when hee sees it live and thrive deny it to be his childe and conclude it to be a bastard So will our God deale with us But why should wee grant them this wee failed not in our entrance they can never prove it by the word of Christ A true visible church may bee considered two waies in the planting and in the reforming of it How wee entred into a true church in our first planting God knowes we know not from his word The sound of the Apostles went into all the earth and their words into the end of the world The Gospel is come unto you saith Paul to the Colossians and to all the world and bringeth forth fruit and surely it entred to us as it should by some Apostle or Apostolicke men to make our ancient predecessours a true church Before we were without Christ now wee know him Before wee were without the covenant now wee are in by baptisme Before wee were no professours now we are and God shewes mercy to thousands among them that love him and keepe his commandements and is their God and the God of their seede But this is not the state of the question now Therefore for the reforming of a church God would have this course As it was with Iob hee was first of Gods making and next by Gods permission of the Devils marring when he was full of botches and sores scarce knowne to his friends and loathsome to his wife All this while Iob was a true man as he was before though clouded with some fearefull fits of impatience But when God would lift up Iob againe hee did not make a new Iob but reformed the old he cured and cleansed him that hee might appeare like himselfe and his end was happy So God dealt with the church After it had covenanted with God at first it wanted no botches it was fearefully overspread with diseases But when God would have it raised againe hee doth not build a new church but reformeth the old Hee shewes our forefathers where they were at a losse that they had the faith of Christ in the articles and the profession of it in publicke festivities but with fearefull superstitions and vanities Therefore hee puts into their hands and the hands of his ministers the word of his covenant
the full advantage of their plea. But if all this were true it doth not follow that wee are not the true ministers of Christ nor that our Church is not his true Church Not the first because that exposition of Christs words is their owne and not Christs If Christ had said unto us that hee would have such a governement erected in every parish then wee should dishonour our master and rob Gods people not to preach it Others have with prayer care and conscience looked upon those words of Christ as well as they and yet some finde in that Church mentioned by Christ onely the Iewish Sanhedrim some the Pope and his conclave some the presbytery of mixt elders some the consistory of preaching elders and some Bishops and superintendents who have the highest oversight to punish Church scandals under the Magistrates under whom they live But these men as if they would exclude other mens discourses and binde up their consciences to their interpretations will have their meaning to be the true sence and no other Neither doth it follow that our Church is not the true Church of Christ What though-something that Christ hath commanded to be observed be not taught nor observed doth it therefore follow that such a Church is not his What Christian is there that hath all Christs observations taught in every congregation where hee comes or if hee have them all doth observe and doe them as he ought And yet I hope he may be a true Christian and saved in the day of Christ As in a Christian wee must observe what gives him saving fellowship with Christ to wit Repentance from dead workes and Faith unfained and how he walketh worthy of this fellowship in the way of life to wit by deniall of himselfe taking up of the crosse and following Christ so farre that no wilfull nor deliberate sinne raigne in him and then though he do not observe every outward forme and rule yet I hope Christ may be his Christ and he Christs member to life So in a church must we observe what gives it true ecclesiasticall fellowship with Christ to wit the Apostles doctrine and fellowship breaking of bread and praier and then if it professe to know these and to continue in them so far as it is come though it observe not every thing that other men thinke it should yet I hope it is a true church of Christ But say they we have not the Apostles doctrine and fellowship for want of this popular governement Let them prove once that this is any part of the Apostles doctrine and fellowship Indeed they tell us as before that Christ said goe tell the Church and so forth but how this Last serves their feet comes next to bee discussed If this church were every congregation and if one man may bind and loose it is certaine the whole congregation may doe so also and so have the greatest power of church governement in their owne hand but whether the text will conclude for such power is the thing in question Learned men of most ages have much looked upon that text and have applied it either by way of allusion or properly to church discipline some way or other Some churches in this last age have looked upon it fully and as they thinke have squared an exact discipline according to it though I cannot finde that they cut their course fully according to their owne sence Some particular persons finding this to bee the strongest hold for that new discipline have sought to overthrow it so as utterly to roote out excommunication from the church and others finding the good use of that censure for the well being of the church have beene as eagar to maintaine this hold But discipline and that censure hath hold strong enough from other texts though that of Christ bee set in its proper sence For when wee looke to that promise of Christ to his disciples in the name of Peter and how he made it good to his Apostles lay together the rules practises of the apostles especially in the epistles to the Corinthians and to Timothy which last are spent in rules for the well ordering of the governing and the governed we shall find ground sufficient for church governement either in patterne or precept generall or speciall though we suffer this text to appear in its own colors Let me tell them then that as Paul saith Forbeare one another and forgive one another if any man have a quarrel or complaint against any so Christ in that chapter gives a remedy against private contentions This is plaine to everie eye that is not wilfully blinded that Christ in that chapter tells of the danger of scandals and thereupon he gives a double direction first to live so as not to give scandal to others and secondly to carry themselves aright to others that give scandal to them and that all this is to bee referred to private offences the unbroken course of the chapter shewes as Saint Basil hath observed many hundred yeares agoe That which moved Christ to this discourse was the present state of the Iewish disciples under the Romane Empire The Romanes had no governement over them and the authority of their edlers was much diminished For many of the Iewes became servants to the Romanes as their Publicanes to gather in their tribute such were Zacheus yea and Matthew These were freed from the authority of the Iewes as all other Iewes were that were freemen of Rome which made Paul when hee saw oppression before him to appeale to Caesar and to plead that he was free borne This was a great vexation to the Iew in recovering of right and defending himselfe from wrong Therefore Christ to moderate the Iewes passions arising one against another directs them what course to take you must not deale saith hee one with another presently as with Publicanes Heathens who are out of Iewish power and cannot bee impleaded any where but before a Romane barre but to cut off al differences betwixt you and your brethren yee must proceed in a gentle way Why what must they doe If thy brother a Iew shall trespasse against thee a Iew right thy selfe by degrees First deale with him fraternally according to the rule of charity tel him his fault betweene thee and him alone If that will doe no good to gaine him then secondly deale with him legally take with the one or two more that may heare the difference convince him of errour and perswade him to peace for this is Moses law that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word bee established If that will not yet bring him home then thirdly deale with him Iewishly tell it unto the Church complaine to the Sanhedrim tell the seventy elders who sit yet by Gods approbation to heare harder causes and to decide greater doubts against peace and charity If yet hee bee
They are but seers and sufferers in it not doers of it If therefore wee can satisfie our selves in the doing of it that wee may preach IESUS CHRIST unto them in the Churches peace they have cause to thanke us and to thanke GOD for pacifying our consciences for their good and not cry out against us and runne away from us O but they cannot abide to see that idolatrous and abominable Crosse to passe over poore Childrens faces without either reason or religion There is reason for it because it depends upon the commands of superiours and reason wills that they bee obeyed in lawfull and possible things There is Religion for it because it is but a ceremony testifying our communion with the primitive CHVRCH which gloryed in and was persecuted for the Crosse of CHRIST and good Religion hath never beene against such things As to testifie Communion with believing Iewes even the Gentiles abstained from stranguled and bloud so to testifie our Communion with the believing Gentiles of old wee retayne that signe still which they used in the face of their Persecutours to signifie that they were ready to confesse that LORD who dyed for them on the Crosse What though the Church of ROME did afterwards fearefully abuse it yet it is certainely to us neither abominable not idolatrous Wee use it not as a signe from GOD to men as the Sacraments are nor as a signe from Men to GOD as bowing in Prayer● is but as a signe from Men to Men as that old kisse of love For as that did signifie Christian concord and agreement so this our hope if the Childe lives that it will fight under the banner of CHRIST therefore if the Childe bee ready to dye this signe by good order is omitted The Church of ROME useth it both for Consecration Benediction and Operation effective of I know not what feates but wee use it to none of these purposes If it bee sayd that the Child by that badge is dedicated to GODS service in our use of it as the CANON runnes yet the sence must not bee contrary to the commanded use Therefore as wee are sayd to wed with a ring which is nothing but a declaring of a marriage knot by giving and receiving of a ring and by joyning of hands and as the Priest was said to cleanse the leaper by the appointed meanes when hee did onely declare and pronounce him to bee cleane so the Crosse is no dedicating signe for that is done in Baptisme which receives it into the Congregation of CHRISTS flocke but onely declares to the hope of the CHURCH that it shall so live to CHRIST I see not but this may satisfie the soule of any good Christian knowing what I said before of ceremonies concerning the use of the Crosse in our good Church As for the Godfathers and Godmothers answering in the name of the childe though it seeme unreasonable to them yet is there excellent reasons for it They know there were questions and answeres in Philips baptizing of the Eunuch which hath ever beene continued in the Church because of the covenant in Baptisme And though infants cannot answer yet are there three reasons why their sureties should The first is ecclesiasticall the second civill and the third divine The Church reason is because it might put the whole congregation in minde of what was done by them when they were baptized they entered covenant with God As the Prophet spake to the dead altar to admonish living Ieroboam O Altar Altar heare the word of the Lord so doe wee to infants to admonish all that heare ●t The Civill reason is because by the 〈◊〉 of Guardianship the Guardian answeres for the Pupil under their charge and by this takes upon him an obligation of dut● his power and promise of faithfulnesse as hee can and what he doth stands in law as his pupils act Now because our sureties in Baptisme are such therefore they answere for children and what they doe professe to doe is accounted the infants act to which hee is bound as wee see in the civill covenant betwixt David and Ionathan and their seedes for ever The Divine reason is because in the very substance of Baptisme which is a signe and seale of the covenant of grace there is an interrogation on GODS part for repentance and beliefe of the GOSPEL and on our parts a repromission or answere of a good conscience which is opened and expounded by these questions and answeres If notwithstanding these reasons they seeme yet to bee unreasonable it is enough they know them and they must stand till they can from sound grounds overthrow them from the word of Christ Thus by GODS blessing I have finished the three grounds upon which our forsakers leave us and I hope I shall satisfie them in this that wee have a true CHURCH a true MINISTERY a true WORSHIP and that they for any thing I know have no just cause to say otherwise If yet they persevere and multiply scandal and schisme they must once againe remember the blessed wordes wee beganne with Not forsaking the assembling of our selves together as the manner of some is but exhorting one another and so much the more as yee see the day approaching SECT 17. The use to bee made of the constancy of some and forsakings of o●her consideration exhortation because the day is approaching IT is the course of too many to cleave to the assemblies but they are never the better They onely stand to outward profession but grow not in grace and the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Iesus Christ Hence is it that if never so many of them stand they cannot incourage them nor if never so many fall away they cannot wisely consider them and exhort unto faithfulnesse Therefore the Apostle would have us such knowing and wise Christians by the helpe of publicke assemblies that wee may wisely consider one another and weightily exhort one another that wee may keepe one another in sound knowledge and pious practise There are three things which wee shoud consider in our selves our aptnesse to fall the difficulty of our standing and our love to that way which is most dangerous Though God set us not justly in slipperie places yet are apt to slide away continually Wee carry about with us the foolish and unwise flesh which makes us unwarie and so we are soone caught in a deceitfull net There are questing snares of gaine and questioning snares or frivolous and idle things which end in noyse and tumult without profit and thus wee are apt to fall We as hardly keepe our standings we are children and doe not play the men We are a mixture of weakenesse and must have Gods good spirit lead us or downe wee goe Satan is principality and power by whom the winde rises and the rayne falls and the flouds come and then our house if it bee not strongly founded goes to wrack