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A37074 Just re-proposals to humble proposals. Or An impartiall consideration of, and answer unto, the humble proposals, which are printed in the name of sundry learned and pious divines, concerning the Engagement which the Parliament hath ordered to be taken Shewing, how farre those proposals are agreeable to reason, to Christianity and to policie. How the proposers thereof may receive satisfaction therein, in all these respects. Hereunto are added, The humble proposals themselves; because they are not currantly to be found. Written by John Dury. January 7. 1650. Imprimatur, Joseph Caryl. Dury, John, 1596-1680.; Reynolds, Edward, 1599-1676. 1650 (1650) Wing D2868A; ESTC R205390 24,964 38

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other_o resolution_n and_o engagement_n of_o that_o kind_n that_o the_o different_a apprehension_n of_o matter_n which_o now_o seem_v extreme_a and_o through_o our_o mutual_a mistrust_n of_o each_o other_o be_v like_a to_o be_v the_o utter_a ruin_n of_o both_o will_v be_v find_v very_o inconsiderable_a and_o such_o as_o will_v be_v whole_o swallow_v up_o by_o the_o ground_n of_o mutual_a assurance_n which_o natural_o result_v from_o every_o faithful_a engagement_n to_o practise_v thing_n wherein_o there_o be_v a_o full_a agreement_n between_o party_n for_o the_o not_o do_v as_o i_o say_v before_o of_o that_o which_o in_o our_o place_n we_o shall_v do_v with_o singleness_n of_o heart_n without_o contradict_v and_o contest_v one_o with_o another_o about_o that_o wherein_o we_o suspect_v each_o other_o as_o aim_v at_o that_o which_o we_o shall_v not_o do_v be_v the_o original_a and_o great_a cause_n of_o all_o our_o distraction_n and_o unsettlement_n which_o if_o we_o can_v intend_v to_o redress_v and_o remove_v viz._n by_o overcome_v evil_a with_o good_a that_o be_v the_o fear_n 21._o of_o evil_a design_n and_o erterprise_n with_o good_a motion_n and_o engagement_n unto_o unquestionable_a duty_n there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o we_o shall_v find_v a_o clear_a way_n to_o peace_n and_o reconcilement_n this_o therefore_o be_v the_o course_n which_o i_o will_v suggest_v to_o be_v follow_v between_o those_o that_o be_v scruple_v at_o the_o engagement_n and_o those_o that_o be_v not_o scruple_v at_o it_o in_o their_o friendly_a conference_n and_o treaty_n viz._n ingenuity_n first_o let_v matter_n of_o agreement_n be_v propose_v understand_v and_o ratify_v in_o thing_n positive_a and_o negative_a second_o let_v there_o be_v a_o profess_a engagement_n to_o practise_v that_o which_o be_v answerable_a unto_o their_o agreement_n and_o tend_v undoubted_o to_o edification_n between_o they_o three_o let_v matter_n of_o disagreement_n both_o positive_a and_o negative_a be_v think_v upon_o with_o these_o two_o caution_n premise_v to_o prevent_v a_o breach_n first_o that_o no_o disagreement_n in_o judgement_n or_o practice_n shall_v make_v void_a the_o dutiful_a engagement_n to_o follow_v joint_o the_o matter_n of_o agreement_n second_o that_o to_o take_v away_o the_o offence_n which_o may_v arise_v upon_o the_o difference_n of_o opinion_n and_o practice_n some_o rule_n be_v to_o be_v pre-determine_v whereby_o contentious_a debate_n about_o the_o same_o may_v be_v prevent_v and_o whereby_o the_o right_a use_n of_o christian_a of_o moral_a and_o of_o rational_a freedom_n therein_o may_v be_v settle_v if_o therefore_o those_o pious_a and_o learned_a brethren_n who_o scruple_n against_o the_o engagement_n be_v thus_o propose_v have_v a_o great_a influence_n upon_o the_o mind_n of_o other_o to_o make_v they_o scrupulous_a and_o disaffect_v at_o it_o if_o i_o say_v they_o will_v condescend_v to_o the_o overture_n of_o such_o a_o treaty_n which_o hither_o to_o some_o have_v not_o be_v willing_a to_o do_v i_o be_o very_o confident_a through_o the_o blessing_n of_o christ_n that_o a_o expedient_a will_v easy_o be_v find_v to_o settle_v their_o doubtful_a thought_n and_o so_o to_o make_v all_o other_o willing_a to_o yield_v unto_o their_o superior_n that_o ground_n of_o just_a assurance_n and_o acquiescence_n for_o which_o the_o engagement_n by_o they_o propose_v be_v requisite_a and_o this_o be_v the_o course_n by_o which_o those_o that_o be_v ingenuous_a may_v receive_v satisfaction_n if_o they_o seek_v it_o as_o they_o ought_v but_o if_o any_o do_v scruple_n more_o through_o policy_n than_o piety_n this_o course_n will_v not_o take_v be_v like_v of_o because_o it_o will_v cross_v their_o design_n which_o be_v to_o keep_v the_o mind_n of_o the_o weak_a sort_n in_o a_o stagger_a condition_n that_o they_o may_v not_o close_o to_o any_o settlement_n but_o lie_v open_a to_o all_o manner_n of_o change_n i_o shall_v not_o charge_v any_o of_o the_o author_n of_o these_o proposal_n with_o any_o such_o design_n yet_o i_o can_v absolve_v all_o of_o they_o from_o it_o for_o i_o may_v as_o lawful_o suspect_v they_o in_o this_o matter_n as_o in_o any_o other_o policy_n matter_n i_o may_v do_v i_o own_o heart_n whereof_o although_o i_o know_v none_o evil_a yet_o i_o shall_v do_v myself_o no_o injury_n to_o say_v that_o yet_o there_o may_v be_v some_o mixture_n of_o deceitfulness_n in_o it_o when_o i_o think_v my_o meaning_n be_v at_o the_o best_a for_o the_o apostle_n himself_o will_v not_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o justify_v himself_o in_o all_o thing_n i_o know_v say_v he_o nothing_o by_o myself_o yet_o i_o be_o not_o thereby_o justify_v but_o he_o that_o judge_v i_o be_v the_o lord_n so_o i_o may_v without_o offence_n say_v of_o the_o proposer_n of_o 4._o these_o scruple_n that_o although_o i_o know_v nothing_o by_o they_o but_o judge_v charitable_o that_o their_o scruple_n as_o to_o they_o be_v true_o conscientious_a yet_o i_o must_v also_o say_v that_o thereby_o they_o be_v not_o justify_v from_o the_o mixture_n of_o collateral_a design_n but_o that_o it_o be_v the_o lord_n who_o will_v judge_v they_o the_o main_a of_o the_o business_n may_v be_v true_o a_o doubt_n of_o conscience_n and_o yet_o the_o manage_n of_o it_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o some_o may_v be_v somewhat_o else_o nor_o do_v i_o wrong_v the_o christian_a charity_n which_o i_o owe_v to_o all_o or_o any_o of_o they_o in_o this_o because_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o i_o to_o be_v jealous_a over_o they_o with_o godly_a jealousy_n lest_o by_o any_o mean_n as_o the_o serpent_n beguile_v eve_n by_o his_o subtlety_n so_o their_o mind_n shall_v be_v corrupt_v from_o the_o simplicity_n which_o be_v in_o christ_n 3._o and_o true_o to_o look_v but_o upon_o the_o matter_n itself_o by_o compare_v the_o former_a and_o latter_a part_n of_o the_o proposal_n together_o a_o doubt_n may_v be_v make_v thus_o that_o see_v the_o main_a scruple_n where_o at_o they_o stick_v be_v not_o so_o much_o against_o the_o duty_n express_v in_o the_o word_n of_o the_o engagement_n which_o be_v to_o be_v true_a and_o faithful_a or_o against_o the_o object_n of_o the_o duty_n consider_v in_o itself_o which_o be_v this_o commonwealth_n or_o against_o the_o immediare_a qualification_n of_o the_o object_n and_o of_o the_o duty_n which_o be_v as_o it_o be_v now_o establish_v without_o a_o king_n and_o house_n of_o lord_n which_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o god_n providence_n but_o only_o against_o the_o act_n of_o subscribe_v to_o the_o whole_a in_o reference_n to_o some_o state-consideration_n and_o consequence_n follow_v thereupon_o which_o tend_v to_o nothing_o else_o but_o to_o suspend_v the_o mind_n of_o man_n and_o take_v they_o off_o from_o the_o regular_a performance_n of_o a_o present_a duty_n by_o the_o conjectural_a apprehension_n of_o doubtful_a inconvenience_n which_o may_v ensue_v as_o to_o the_o state_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o 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