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A20950 A learned treatise of traditions, lately set forth in French by Peter Du Moulin, and faithfully done into English by G.C.; Des traditions et de la perfection et suffisance de l'Escriture Saincte. English Du Moulin, Pierre, 1568-1658.; G. C. 1631 (1631) STC 7329; ESTC S111075 138,687 440

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