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A66964 A discourse of the necessity of church-guides, for directing Christians in necessary faith with some annotations on Dr Stillingfleet's answer to N.O. / by R.H. R. H., 1609-1678. 1675 (1675) Wing W3446; ESTC R38733 248,311 278

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igitur_fw-la ostensiones_fw-la cùm_fw-la sint_fw-la haec_fw-la non_fw-la oportet_fw-la adhuc_fw-la quaerere_fw-la apud_fw-la alios_fw-la veritatem_fw-la quam_fw-la facile_fw-la est_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la sumere_fw-la and_o see_v what_o be_v quote_v before_o note_n on_o p._n 197._o l._n 7._o quid_fw-la enim_fw-la si_fw-la quibus_fw-la de_fw-fr aliquâ_fw-la modicâ_fw-la quaestione_fw-la disceptatio_fw-la esset_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o which_o place_n suppose_v a_o fallibility_n of_o the_o consenting-testimony_n of_o the_o present_a church-governor_n when_o consult_v concern_v the_o traditive_a faith_n that_o have_v descend_v to_o they_o and_o all_o this_o father_n say_v fall_n to_o the_o ground_n pag._n 204._o l._n 13._o and_o sure_o then_o he_o do_v not_o imagine_v that_o god_n have_v appoint_v a_o infallible_a judge_n on_o purpose_n to_o prevent_v the_o be_v of_o heresy_n by_o give_v a_o infallible_a sense_n of_o scripture_n yes_o such_o a_o infallible_a judge_n hence_o the_o more_o necessary_a to_o cure_v and_o remedy_v the_o heresy_n which_o tertullian_n say_v the_o scripture_n be_v so_o frame_v as_o not_o to_o prevent_v neither_o have_v god_n in_o provide_v such_o a_o judge_n constrain_v also_o all_o man_n free_a will_n to_o believe_v his_o infallibility_n and_o acquiesce_v in_o his_o judgement_n and_o so_o the_o oportet_fw-la esse_fw-la haereses_fw-la may_v be_v verify_v still_o pag._n 207._o l._n 4._o the_o sense_n they_o the_o heretic_n give_v of_o scripture_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n etc._n etc._n which_o he_o irenaeus_n call_v the_o unmoveable_a rule_n of_o faith_n receive_v in_o b._n pt_n sm_n and_o which_o the_o church_n disperse_v over_o the_o earth_n do_v equal_o receive_v in_o all_o place_n with_o a_o wonderful_a consent_n if_o the_o dr_n here_o will_v restrain_v the_o father_n urge_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o apostolical_a church_n against_o heretic_n only_o to_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n or_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n the_o creed_n process_v in_o their_o baptism_n we_o must_v know_v that_o they_o urge_v not_o the_o concurrent_a testimony_n of_o the_o present_a church_n only_o for_o those_o against_o some_o gross_a heretic_n that_o deny_v the_o text_n and_o letter_n of_o they_o but_o also_o against_o other_o more_o subtle_a pervert_v such_o a_o sense_n of_o they_o as_o these_o consent_a church_n pretend_v d_o be_v apostolical_a see_v jrenaeus_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n 2._o cùm_fw-la ex_fw-la scripture_n arguuntur_fw-la in_fw-la accusationem_fw-la convertuntur_fw-la ipsarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la where_o among_o other_o their_o accusation_n he_o allege_v this_o quia_fw-la variè_fw-la sint_fw-la dictae_fw-la ambiguous_a in_o their_o sense_n &_o quia_fw-la non_fw-la possit_fw-la ex_fw-la his_fw-la inventri_fw-la veritas_fw-la ab_fw-la his_fw-la qui_fw-la nesciant_fw-la traditionem_fw-la cùm_fw-la autem_fw-la ad_fw-la eam_fw-la iterùm_fw-la traditionem_fw-la i.e._n 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