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A71279 A compendious discourse on the Eucharist with two appendixes. R. H., 1609-1678. 1688 (1688) Wing W3440A; ESTC R22619 186,755 234

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necessario_fw-la contradicendum_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n see_v dr._n taylor_n p._n 331._o before_o the_o lateran_n council_n say_v he_o transubstantiatio_fw-la non_fw-la fuit_fw-la dogma_fw-la fidei_fw-la as_o scotus_n say_v and_o how_o it_o can_v be_v afterward_o since_o christ_n be_v only_o the_o author_n and_o finisher_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o therefore_o all_o faith_n be_v deliver_v from_o the_o beginning_n be_v a_o matter_n of_o high_a danger_n and_o consideration_n thus_o he_o i_o think_v it_o be_v sufficient_o answer_v and_o the_o offence_n thereof_o take_v away_o in_o my_o note_n of_o infallibility_n so_o that_o i_o need_v say_v little_a here_o only_o this_o first_o they_o make_v this_o point_n of_o transubstantiation_n no_o more_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n than_o their_o other_o decree_n to_o which_o they_o require_v assent_v under_o anathema_n as_o they_o do_v to_o this_o for_o example_n it_o be_v make_v no_o more_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n by_o they_o than_o this_o 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