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A41009 Kātabaptistai kataptüstoi The dippers dipt, or, The anabaptists duck'd and plung'd over head and eares, at a disputation in Southwark : together with a large and full discourse of their 1. Original. 2. Severall sorts. 3. Peculiar errours. 4. High attempts against the state. 5. Capitall punishments, with an application to these times / by Daniel Featley ... Featley, Daniel, 1582-1645. 1645 (1645) Wing F586; ESTC R212388 182,961 216

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christen_n of_o child_n accomplish_v the_o promise_n act._n 2._o 39_o the_o promise_n be_v to_o you_o and_o your_o child_n and_o to_o those_o that_o be_v afar_o off_o and_o to_o as_o many_o as_o the_o lord_n shall_v call_v by_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o gospel_n into_o his_o church_n yea_o but_o say_v he_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n upon_o infant_n stand_v upon_o the_o ground_n and_o interest_n which_o they_o have_v in_o the_o covenant_n by_o natural_a generation_n only_o or_o by_o the_o mere_a profession_n of_o faith_n in_o their_o parent_n and_o surety_n without_o faith_n in_o their_o person_n this_o be_v a_o false_a charge_n we_o teach_v no_o such_o thing_n but_o that_o child_n have_v interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n by_o virtue_n of_o god_n promise_v above_o mention_v and_o not_o without_o faith_n in_o their_o own_o person_n as_o without_o may_v signify_v the_o