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A28379 An essay tending to issue the controversie about infant baptism from the parity, at least, of Scripture-light concerning infant-baptim [sic] with that of women's being admitted to the Lord's Supper, shewing that there is as good grounds out of Scripture for the one as for the other : occasioned by a tender made by H.D. in his late book against infant-baptism who is willing to put the whole controversie concerning it, upon this issue : together with an answer to the most material things in that book / Eremnalēthēs. 1674 (1674) Wing B3192; ESTC R25634 100,950 243

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9_o john_n reject_v they_o call_v they_o a_o generation_n of_o viper_n who_o say_v they_o have_v abraham_n for_o their_o father_n for_o answer_v 1._o these_o be_v not_o infant_n to_o who_o john_n speak_v but_o gross_a notorious_a hypocrite_n who_o carry_v their_o hypocrisy_n in_o their_o forehead_n so_o as_o that_o john_n can_v perceive_v it_o and_o continue_a obstinate_a and_o impenitent_a 2._o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n be_v a_o ordinance_n now_o newly-instituted_n and_o belong_v to_o the_o new-testament-dispensation_n mark_v 1.1_o 2._o etc._n etc._n and_o those_o pharisee_n be_v adult-person_n and_o notorious_o corrupt_v stand_v in_o opposition_n to_o christ_n and_o to_o the_o purity_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o power_n of_o godliness_n there_o be_v good_a reason_n why_o john_n shall_v require_v they_o to_o repent_v before_o they_o
which_o i_o hold_v their_o parent_n ought_v to_o do_v 4._o but_o that_o tree_n also_o be_v capable_a of_o circumcision_n i_o suppose_v you_o will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v if_o you_o diligent_o examine_v the_o text_n and_o consult_v judicious_a commentator_n upon_o it_o you_o will_v find_v no_o such_o sense_n as_o you_o and_o some_o other_o put_v upon_o it_o 19.23_o levit._fw-la 19.23_o hear_v what_o the_o learned_a buxtorfius_n that_o great_a hebraician_n and_o antiquary_n in_o the_o jewish_a writing_n say_v upon_o the_o hebrew_n word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d first_o it_o signify_v to_o hold_v or_o account_v one_o uncircumcised_a buxtorf_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d praeputiatum_n vel_fw-la obthuratum_fw-la habuit_fw-la vel_fw-la censuit_fw-la levit._fw-la 19.23_o et_fw-la ob_fw-la thurabitis_fw-la obthurationem_fw-la ejus_fw-la juxta_fw-la rab._n solomonem_fw-la i_o e._n arborem_fw-la impuram_fw-la &_o fructus_fw-la ejus_fw-la pollutos_fw-la &_o abominabiles_fw-la cenfesebitis_fw-la sicut_fw-la praeputium_fw-la seu_fw-la cutis_fw-la obthurans_fw-la membrum_fw-la virile_a interdum_fw-la significat_fw-la praeputium_fw-la absculit_fw-la quasi_fw-la depraeputiare_fw-la dicas_fw-la depraeputiabitis_fw-la i._n e._n auferetis_fw-la praeputium_fw-la ejus_fw-la i._n e._n fructus_fw-la ceu_fw-la impuros_fw-la decutietis_fw-la ut_fw-la chaldaice_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n removendo_fw-la removebitis_fw-la fructus_fw-la ejus_fw-la i._n e._n abjicietis_fw-la tanquam_fw-la immundos_fw-la buxtorf_n or_o close_v up_o hence_o rabbi_n solomon_n upon_o levit._n 19.23_o you_o shall_v close_v up_o the_o close_n thereof_o that_o be_v you_o shall_v account_v the_o tree_n unclean_a and_o the_o fruit_n of_o it_o pollute_v and_o abominable_a even_o as_o the_o foreskin_n or_o skin_n that_o close_v or_o stop_v up_o the_o member_n of_o a_o man._n second_o it_o signify_v to_o take_v away_o the_o foreskin_n or_o uncircumcision_n of_o any_o thing_n and_o 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the_o validity_n of_o it_o if_o stranger_n servants_z etc._n etc._n all_o ignorant_a child_n of_o eight_o day_n old_a yea_o and_o tree_n also_o be_v capable_a of_o circumcision_n then_o circumcision_n be_v administer_v to_o all_o abraham_n natural_a seed_n without_o any_o profession_n of_o faith_n repentance_n and_o regeneration_n at_o ergo._n let_v reasonable_a man_n judge_v of_o the_o inconsequence_n of_o this_o proposition_n have_v before_o read_v what_o i_o have_v answer_v to_o the_o particular_n in_o it_o i_o now_o come_v to_o your_o six_o proof_n 6._o circumcision_n be_v to_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o temporal_a blessing_n and_o benefit_n to_o be_v enjoy_v in_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n whereas_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o many_o spiritual_a benefit_n viz._n remission_n of_o sin_n justification_n sanctification_n and_o eternal_a salvation_n to_o which_o i_o reply_v 1._o and_o why_o be_v it_o not_o a_o seal_n rather_o than_o a_o sign_n or_o at_o least_o as_o well_o as_o 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benefit_n to_o they_o this_o seem_v not_o fair_a deal_n but_o rather_o a_o impose_v upon_o your_o inadvertent_n reader_n and_o have_v you_o fair_o grant_v this_o soon_o it_o will_v have_v spare_v you_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o needless_a labour_n circumcision_n then_o by_o your_o own_o grant_n signify_v heart-circumcision_n and_o initiate_a into_o the_o visible_a church_n even_o as_o baptism_n also_o do_v which_o be_v that_o we_o plead_v for_o and_o if_o it_o do_v signify_v so_o then_o both_o the_o parent_n and_o children-circumcised_n have_v a_o advantage_n hereby_o to_o seek_v unto_o god_n to_o circumcise_v their_o heart_n who_o have_v signify_v and_o seal_v it_o to_o they_o in_o that_o holy_a ordinance_n 3._o if_o circumcision_n signify_v heart-circumcision_n to_o those_o that_o be_v circumcise_a than_o it_o must_v also_o signify_v remission_n of_o sin_n and_o justification_n by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o sanctification_n also_o and_o consequent_o eternal_a salvation_n follow_v those_o benefit_n which_o they_o be_v in_o that_o order_n to_o look_v after_o of_o which_o canaan_n be_v a_o type_n unto_o they_o and_o then_o what_o substantial_a difference_n be_v there_o between_o baptism_n and_o circumcision_n this_o be_v to_o seek_v a_o knot_n in_o a_o bulrush_n as_o the_o proverb_n be_v 4._o to_o wave_v the_o force_n of_o your_o own_o grant_v you_o tell_v we_o though_o it_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o initiate_a into_o the_o church_n yet_o it_o be_v a_o different-church_n different_a subject_n and_o church-member_n upon_o different_a ground_n and_o to_o different_a end_n etc._n etc._n to_o which_o i_o return_v what_o if_o it_o be_v a_o different_a church_n in_o some_o circumstance_n be_v it_o not_o a_o church_n of_o god_n a_o church_n of_o god_n institute_v and_o constitute_v do_v it_o not_o consist_v of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n make_v with_o abraham_n and_o afterward_o continue_v unto_o his_o posterity_n into_o which_o the_o christian_a gentile_n be_v ingraft_v and_o into_o which_o the_o jew_n and_o israelite_n shall_v be_v again_o ingraft_v in_o these_o latter_a day_n of_o the_o gospel_n see_v rom._n 11.17_o 23_o 24_o 26_o 27_o 31._o be_v not_o their_o child_n then_o external_o and_o ecclesiastical_o in_o covenant_n and_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o child_n of_o inchurch_v parent_n and_o do_v then_o partake_v of_o the_o initiatory_a sign_n and_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o shall_v their_o child_n then_o be_v leave_v out_o when_o god_n shall_v again_o engraft_v their_o parent_n in_o weigh_v the_o promise_n make_v to_o these_o gospel-time_n when_o god_n shall_v bring_v they_o in_o their_o child_n shall_v be_v as_o afore-time_o and_o their_o congregation_n shall_v be_v establish_v before_o i_o jer._n 30.20_o with_o deut._n 29.10_o 11._o to_o v._o 16._o they_o be_v the_o seed_n of_o the_o bless_a of_o the_o lord_n and_o their_o offspring_n with_o they_o isa_n 65.23_o the_o child_n of_o thy_o servant_n shall_v continue_v and_o their_o seed_n shall_v be_v establish_v before_o thou_o psal_n 102._o last_o see_v more_o ezek._n 37.25_o 26._o the_o promise_n be_v to_o you_o and_o to_o your_o child_n act_n 2.39_o the_o ground_n and_o end_n also_o that_o be_v of_o god_n appoint_v be_v for_o the_o substance_n the_o same_o as_o have_v be_v prove_v though_o in_o some_o circumstance_n they_o may_v differ_v god_n have_v enlarge_v his_o grace_n towards_o poor_a wretch_n now_o in_o these_o gospel-day_n and_o that_o analogy_n and_o proportion_n which_o you_o yourself_o do_v grant_v in_o the_o main_a substantial_a thing_n signify_v by_o circumcision_n and_o baptism_n together_o with_o what_o i_o have_v evidence_v out_o of_o coloss_n 2._o do_v give_v we_o sufficient_a ground_n to_o conclude_v that_o baptism_n be_v come_v into_o the_o room_n stead_n &_o use_v of_o circumcision_n notwithstanding_o all_o that_o you_o have_v bring_v to_o the_o contrary_a which_o i_o hope_n do_v appear_v by_o what_o have_v be_v reply_v to_o you_o before_o and_o whereas_o you_o say_v by_o
the_o same_o argument_n we_o may_v as_o well_o conclude_v that_o it_o come_v in_o the_o room_n and_o stead_n of_o the_o ark_n manna_n rock_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v a_o grand_a mistake_n for_o circumcision_n be_v one_o of_o the_o two_o ordinary_a sacrament_n and_o seal_n of_o god_n covenant_n give_v to_o abraham_n and_o the_o church_n in_o his_o family_n about_o four_o hundred_o year_n before_o the_o ark_n manna_n or_o that_o rock_n you_o speak_v of_o gal._n 3.17_o there_o be_v many_o extraordinary_a sacrament_n that_o god_n appoint_v to_o that_o nonage-people_n or_o heir_n under_o age_n to_o use_v the_o apostle_n phrase_n gal._n 4.1_o 2_o 3._o which_o god_n in_o mercy_n give_v to_o help_v their_o faith_n upon_o special_a occasion_n and_o emergency_n beside_o some_o that_o you_o mention_v to_o wit_n the_o brazen-serpent_n for_o one_o which_o be_v but_o occasional_a jo._n 3.14_o 15._o but_o circumcision_n be_v one_o of_o the_o stand_a sacrament_n and_o seal_n annex_v to_o the_o 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have_v as_o good_a ground_n leave_v we_o in_o scripture_n to_o convince_v they_o as_o you_o have_v and_o i_o hope_v shall_v be_v as_o ready_a to_o do_v it_o as_o occasion_n shall_v be_v offer_v and_o thus_o i_o have_v do_v with_o your_o six_o question_n propound_v long_o before_o and_o your_o answer_n to_o it_o &_o now_o come_v to_o the_o seven_o quest_n 7._o whether_o the_o not-baptizing_a infant_n make_v the_o privilege_n under_o the_o gospel_n less_o than_o the_o circumcise_n they_o under_o the_o law_n p._n 205._o which_o you_o somewhat_o alter_v p._n 228._o saying_n less_o than_o under_o the_o law_n who_o have_v then_o circumcision_n your_o answer_n be_v not_o at_o all_o and_o give_v your_o reason_n why_o not-baptizing_a of_o infant_n make_v not_o gospel-priviledge_n less_o than_o legal_a first_o they_o be_v not_o say_v you_o circumcise_a because_o child_n of_o believer_n or_o seal_v with_o a_o new-covenant-seal_n as_o be_v in_o the_o new-covenant_n but_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o a_o birth-priviledge_n as_o of_o the_o natural_a lineage_n and_o seed_n of_o abraham_n as_o a_o typical_a shadowy_a thing_n etc._n etc._n i_o reply_v 1._o be_v not_o their_o parent_n professing-believer_n at_o least_o under_o such_o a_o profession_n as_o suit_v that_o dispensation_n do_v they_o not_o attend_v upon_o the_o sacrifice_n which_o point_v their_o faith_n at_o christ_n to_o come_v and_o be_v not_o they_o as_o they_o grow_v up_o to_o come_v before_o the_o lord_n and_o say_v a_o syrian_a ready_a to_o perish_v be_v my_o father_n etc._n etc._n see_v deut._n 26.5_o to_o v._o 12._o and_o there_o they_o be_v to_o worship_v before_o the_o lord_n and_o afterward_o v._o 27._o to_o avouch_v the_o lord_n to_o be_v their_o god_n as_o he_o also_o avouch_v they_o to_o be_v his_o people_n v._o 26._o be_v there_o no_o profession_n of_o faith_n in_o all_o this_o 2._o be_v they_o not_o seal_v with_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n under_o a_o external_a and_o ecclesiastical_a dispensation_n i_o suppose_v you_o will_v not_o say_v it_o be_v the_o covenant_n of_o work_n though_o when_o it_o become_v national_a it_o be_v give_v in_o somewhat_o a_o legal_a manner_n 3._o what_o be_v that_o birth-priviledge_n do_v it_o not_o depend_v upon_o the_o covenant_n ecclesiastical_o dispense_v and_o submit_v to_o i_o will_v be_v thy_o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o thy_o seed_n gen._n 17.7_o and_o do_v it_o not_o run_v in_o the_o natural_a lineage_n and_o seed_n of_o abraham_n as_o they_o be_v his_o church-seed_n as_o have_v be_v show_v i_o pray_v consider_v what_o be_v the_o proselyte_n and_o their_o child_n who_o be_v also_o circumcise_a they_o be_v not_o at_o all_o the_o natural_a seed_n of_o abraham_n but_o they_o be_v his_o visible-church_n seed_n 4._o you_o say_v circumcision_n be_v to_o distinguish_v they_o from_o the_o nation_n and_o to_o keep_v that_o line_n clear_a from_o whence_o christ_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n shall_v come_v suppose_v this_o last_o to_o be_v true_a of_o abraham_n natural_a seed_n what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o proselyte_n and_o their_o seed_n from_o who_o christ_n be_v not_o to_o come_v yet_o they_o be_v to_o be_v circumcise_a 5._o you_o say_v there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o the_o gospel_n the_o body_n and_o substance_n be_v come_v the_o shadow_n be_v to_o vanish_v and_o pass_v away_o no_o birth-priviledge_n but_o the_o new_a birth_n etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v 1._o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n as_o bodily_a circumcision_n in_o the_o gospel_n that_o be_v indeed_o abolish_v but_o 2._o that_o there_o be_v no_o birth-priviledge_n of_o the_o child_n of_o inchurched-parent_n under_o the_o gospel_n but_o the_o new-birth_n that_o i_o must_v deny_v and_o have_v already_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v and_o that_o that_o birth-priviledge_n be_v a_o mean_n and_o help_n tend_v to_o the_o new-birth_n if_o it_o be_v right_o improve_v christ_n be_v the_o common_a father_n of_o inchurched-parent_n and_o their_o seed_n now_o in_o these_o gospel-day_n and_o they_o be_v external_o and_o ecclesiastical_o christ_n and_o abraham_n seed_n and_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n heir_n of_o promise_n as_o have_v be_v already_o prove_v and_o this_o privilege_n be_v not_o a_o bondage_n and_o a_o return_v to_o the_o type_n and_o shadow_n as_o you_o term_v it_o but_o a_o bless_a fruit_n of_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n who_o have_v a_o church-seed_n now_o as_o well_o as_o heretofore_o what_o else_o be_v the_o hypocrite_n that_o you_o admit_v if_o he_o be_v not_o one_o of_o abraham_n church-seed_n he_o be_v not_o one_o of_o abraham_n seed_n spiritual_o and_o save_o nor_o have_v the_o new-birth_n indeed_o yet_o you_o judge_v he_o to_o have_v it_o ecclesiastical_o and_o hence_o you_o baptise_v he_o so_o much_o to_o your_o first_o second_o neither_o ought_v such_o a_o thing_n say_v you_o to_o be_v any_o more_o esteem_v the_o loss_n of_o a_o privilege_n than_o our_o not_o enjoy_v literal_o a_o holy-land_n city_n temple_n succession_n of_o a_o highpriest_n etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v 1._o the_o loss_n of_o baptise_v the_o infant_n of_o inchurched-parent_n under_o the_o gospel_n will_v be_v the_o loss_n of_o a_o great_a privilege_n both_o to_o parent_n and_o child_n which_o under_o the_o law_n they_o do_v enjoy_v for_o it_o will_v be_v a_o loss_n of_o that_o which_o signify_v and_o seal_v god_n to_o be_v their_o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o their_o seed_n and_o to_o circumcise_v their_o heart_n to_o love_v the_o lord_n and_o to_o signify_v their_o initiate_a into_o the_o church_n by_o your_o own_o concession_n and_o this_o will_v be_v the_o loss_n of_o no_o small_a privilege_n and_o therefore_o we_o can_v easy_o bear_v this_o loss_n 2._o it_o be_v the_o loss_n of_o a_o privilege_n also_o in_o reference_n to_o temporal_a blessing_n and_o external_n ordinance_n and_o mean_n of_o conversion_n as_o canaan_n be_v a_o external_n bless_v signify_v and_o seal_v to_o they_o by_o circumcision_n so_o temporal_a blessing_n be_v to_o we_o and_o our_o infant_n by_o baptism_n 111._o psal_n 111._o for_o it_o be_v a_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o god_n covenant_n wherein_o temporal_a blessing_n be_v also_o imply_v and_o in_o the_o explanation_n of_o it_o by_o other_o scripture_n express_o promise_v so_o also_o for_o external_n mean_v of_o grace_n 3._o it_o be_v the_o loss_n of_o a_o privilege_n also_o in_o reference_n to_o heaven_n and_o eternal_a happiness_n there_o of_o which_o canaan_n be_v a_o type_n unto_o they_o that_o if_o they_o do_v true_o believe_v in_o the_o messiah_n then_o to_o come_v and_o walk_v in_o the_o way_n of_o god_n eternal_a salvation_n be_v seal_v unto_o they_o thereby_o all_o those_o we_o must_v lose_v and_o yet_o esteem_v the_o loss_n of_o they_o the_o loss_n of_o no_o privilege_n 4._o there_o be_v not_o the_o like_a reason_n of_o the_o loss_n of_o baptism_n