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A68730 Certain general reasons, prouing the lawfulnesse of the Oath of allegiance, written by R.S. priest, to his priuat friend. Whereunto is added, the treatise of that learned man, M. William Barclay, concerning the temporall power of the pope. And with these is ioyned the sermon of M. Theophilus Higgons, preached at Pauls Crosse the third of March last, because it containeth something of like argument Sheldon, Richard, d. 1642?; Barclay, William, 1546 or 7-1608. De potestate Papæ. English.; Higgons, Theophilus, 1578?-1659. Sermon preached at Pauls Crosse the third of March, 1610.; Barclay, John, 1582-1621. 1611 (1611) STC 22393; ESTC S117169 172,839 246

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connivencie_n of_o the_o ancient_a pope_n and_o the_o vanity_n thereof_o discover_v chap._n 12._o that_o the_o pope_n have_v no_o authority_n not_o so_o much_o as_o indirect_o over_o christian_a prince_n in_o temporal_a matter_n prove_v both_o by_o the_o special_a prerogative_n of_o a_o absolute_a prince_n and_o also_o by_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o catholic_n and_o the_o inconueniency_n ensue_a of_o the_o admittance_n thereof_o chap._n 13._o he_o undertake_v bellarmine_n his_o proof_n propound_v his_o first_o main_a reason_n with_o the_o media_n whereby_o bellarmine_n enforce_v the_o same_o chap._n 14._o he_o take_v away_o the_o ground_n which_o bellarmine_n lay_v for_o the_o strengthen_n of_o his_o first_o proposition_n and_o lay_v open_v the_o lightness_n and_o vanity_n thereof_o chap._n 15._o he_o amplifi_v the_o answer_n to_o the_o last_o ground_n lay_v by_o bellarmine_n and_o explain_v in_o what_o term_n of_o relation_n or_o subordination_n the_o power_n both_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a do_v stand_v second_o he_o show_v that_o clergy_n person_n be_v as_o well_o and_o full_o to_o be_v repute_v the_o subject_n of_o temporal_a prince_n as_o lay_v man_n be_v three_o that_o the_o clergy_n first_o receive_v their_o privilege_n from_o the_o favour_n of_o prince_n and_o that_o the_o pope_n himself_o as_o successor_n of_o peter_n must_v necessary_o be_v subject_a to_o a_o temporal_a prince_n but_o that_o he_o be_v a_o temporal_a prince_n in_o italy_n himself_o which_o state_n also_o he_o receive_v at_o the_o first_o by_o the_o bounty_n of_o temporal_a prince_n chap._n 16._o he_o detect_v a_o plain_a fallacy_n in_o a_o reason_n of_o bellarmine_n which_o in_o school_n be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d addictum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o show_v at_o large_a that_o temporal_a prince_n have_v submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o pope_n as_o their_o spiritual_a father_n but_o not_o so_o absolute_o but_o that_o they_o ever_o reserve_v their_o 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spiritual_a chap._n 20._o he_o encounter_v bellarmine_n his_o three_o reason_n and_o the_o pro●●es_n of_o the_o same_o wherein_o he_o except_v especial_o against_o this_o proposition_n of_o bellarmine_n that_o it_o be_v as_o dangerous_a to_o choose_v a_o heathen_a prince_n as_o not_o to_o depose_v he_o that_o be_v not_o a_o christian_a but_o the_o elench_v or_o fallacy_n of_o the_o whole_a argument_n he_o plain_o discover_v chap._n 21._o he_o insist_v further_a on_o the_o point_n whether_o christian_n ought_v to_o suffer_v over_o they_o a_o king_n that_o be_v not_o a_o christian._n the_o text_n of_o the_o 1._o cor._n 6._o be_v discuss_v of_o go_v to_o law_n under_o infidel_n prince_n or_o judge_n and_o bellarmine_n his_o fraud_n and_o captiousnes_n discover_v in_o abuse_v that_o place_n to_o serve_v his_o turn_n second_o a_o place_n of_o thomas_n aquinas_n examine_v touch_v the_o point_n of_o take_v from_o heathen_a prince_n their_o right_n three_o that_o it_o be_v not_o want_v of_o 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and_o show_v that_o nothing_o can_v be_v make_v thereof_o to_o prove_v bellarmine_n assertion_n for_o the_o pope_n temporal_a authority_n over_o christian_a prince_n chap._n 25._o he_o examine_v the_o last_o reason_n of_o bellarmine_n ground_v on_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n to_o peter_n pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la meas_fw-la the_o which_o reason_n from_o these_o word_n if_o it_o have_v any_o edge_n at_o all_o he_o turn_v the_o same_o back_n upon_o bellarmine_n himself_o chap._n 26._o he_o prove_v that_o bellarmine_n be_v deceive_v or_o do_v deceive_v of_o purpose_n in_o his_o reason_n draw_v from_o the_o comparison_n of_o the_o pope_n as_o a_o shepherd_n and_o a_o heretic_n prince_n as_o a_o wolf_n 2._o what_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o shepherd_n in_o case_n the_o prince_n do_v of_o a_o sheep_n become_v a_o wolf_n chap._n 27._o he_o debate_v the_o power_n of_o the_o pope_n to_o dispense_v what_o be_v the_o nature_n of_o those_o law_n wherewith_o the_o pope_n may_v dispense_v but_o 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as_o the_o bond_n of_o lawful_a matrimony_n which_o be_v between_o man_n and_o wife_n can_v be_v dissolve_v by_o man_n the_o lord_n say_v in_o the_o gospel_n 19_o those_o who_o god_n have_v join_v let_v not_o man_n separate_v so_o the_o spiritual_a contract_n of_o marriage_n which_o be_v between_o the_o pope_n and_o the_o church_n can_v be_v dissolve_v without_o his_o authority_n who_o be_v the_o successor_n of_o peter_n and_o vicar_n of_o jesus_n christ._n and_o lest_o any_o man_n shall_v object_v if_o god_n have_v reserve_v to_o his_o own_o only_a judgement_n the_o dissolution_n of_o both_o the_o marriage_n both_o carnal_a and_o spiritual_a and_o the_o spiritual_a bond_n be_v strong_a than_o the_o carnal_a how_o can_v it_o be_v that_o the_o pope_n who_o be_v sure_o but_o a_o man_n can_v dissolve_v that_o spiritual_a bond_n innocentius_n answer_v in_o that_o place_n that_o it_o be_v do_v in_o that_o regard_n
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