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A13295 A reply to a pretended Christian plea for the anti-Chistian [sic] Church of Rome: published by Mr. Francis Iohnson a⁰. 1617 Wherin the weakness of the sayd plea is manifested, and arguments alleaged for the Church of Rome, and baptisme therein, are refuted; by Henry Ainsworth. Anno 1618. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1620 (1620) STC 236; ESTC S122155 171,683 191

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question_n be_v of_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n whereof_o paul_n speak_v 2._o thes._n 2._o 4._o and_o of_o the_o court_n and_o holy_a city_n whereof_o john_n speak_v rev._n 11._o 2._o thus_o neither_o the_o prophecy_n of_o god_n nor_o the_o compliment_n of_o they_o show_v by_o the_o man_n themselves_o who_o the_o prophecy_n concern_v may_v be_v bring_v to_o clear_v the_o controversy_n but_o my_o opposite_a will_v insist_v upon_o dark_a and_o figurative_a speech_n that_o man_n may_v be_v the_o more_o easy_o delude_v for_o how_o shall_v we_o prove_v against_o papist_n that_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n if_o we_o may_v not_o allege_v the_o pope_n own_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o christ_n yea_o how_o shall_v we_o judge_v of_o any_o church_n but_o by_o their_o own_o confession_n publish_v and_o compare_v they_o with_o the_o scripture_n wherefore_o the_o profession_n of_o papist_n concern_v their_o church_n be_v a_o strong_a argument_n whereby_o they_o may_v be_v discover_v to_o be_v none_o of_o christ_n &_o even_o the_o cretian_a liar_n testimony_n against_o themselves_o be_v true_a as_o the_o apostle_n note_v tit._n 1._o 12._o 13._o a_o answer_n to_o the_o argument_n bring_v for_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n my_o opposite_a plead_v thus_o 1._o first_o i_o take_v a_o argument_n from_o the_o baptism_n have_v in_o the_o church_n aforesaid_a the_o apostate_n church_n of_o christian_n thus_o the_o baptism_n have_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o lord_n baptism_n the_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o his_o covenant_n the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n have_v in_o that_o church_n from_o the_o apostle_n time_n before_o antichrist_n there_o arise_v rom._n 6._o 2._o 3._o and_o so_o be_v true_a baptism_n which_o be_v from_o heaven_n and_o not_o of_o man_n that_o one_o baptism_n which_o pertain_v to_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n eph._n 4._o 4._o 5._o which_o the_o lord_n have_v give_v to_o his_o church_n and_o not_o man_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o under_o his_o covenant_n etc._n etc._n answ._n here_o let_v it_o first_o be_v observe_v whether_o my_o opposite_a plead_v against_o the_o present_a estate_n of_o that_o church_n as_o before_o he_o pretend_v for_o if_o they_o be_v under_o god_n covenant_n &_o have_v it_o seal_v unto_o they_o from_o heaven_n by_o that_o one_o true_a baptism_n then_o be_v they_o in_o the_o state_n of_o grace_n and_o of_o salvation_n which_o be_v the_o very_a thing_n that_o all_o papist_n at_o this_o day_n do_v plead_v for_o concern_v his_o argument_n i_o deny_v that_o the_o baptism_n have_v in_o all_o apostate_n church_n of_o christian_n and_o particular_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o lord_n true_a baptism_n or_o the_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o his_o covenant_n of_o grace_n unto_o they_o here_o my_o opposite_a refer_v i_o to_o a_o other_o place_n of_o his_o book_n for_o proof_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o their_o baptism_n whereto_o i_o will_v make_v answer_n anon_o in_o their_o place_n and_o now_o that_o my_o denial_n may_v not_o be_v so_o bare_a as_o be_v his_o assertion_n here_o i_o will_v insist_v upon_o the_o two_o scripture_n which_o he_o cit_v and_o disprove_v their_o baptism_n in_o rom._n 6._o 2._o 3._o 4._o the_o apostle_n say_v how_o shall_v we_o that_o be_v dead_a to_o sin_v live_v any_o long_a therein_o know_v you_o not_o that_o so_o many_o of_o we_o as_o be_v baptize_v into_o christ_n jesus_n be_v baptize_v into_o his_o death_n therefore_o we_o be_v bury_v with_o he_o by_o baptism_n into_o death_n that_o like_a as_o christ_n be_v raise_v up_o from_o the_o dead_a by_o the_o glory_n of_o the_o father_n even_o so_o we_o also_o shall_v walk_v ●n_v n●wnes_n of_o life_n here_o first_o the_o
say_v a_o little_a before_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v fall_v into_o most_o sinful_a and_o deep_a defection_n and_o apostasy_n and_o so_o be_v a_o notorious_a harlot_n and_o idolatress_n wherefore_o his_o distinction_n here_o between_o the_o apostasy_n &_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n make_v the_o one_o antichrist_n the_o other_o god_n temple_n under_o his_o covenant_n of_o grace_n neither_o accord_v with_o the_o scripture_n nor_o with_o his_o own_o assertion_n next_o this_o where_o he_o say_v that_o by_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n in_o israel_n be_v figure_v the_o church_n of_o god_n among_o christian_n it_o be_v grant_v but_o withal_o let_v it_o be_v note_v that_o himself_o can_v not_o deny_v 58._o but_o the_o temple_n and_o tabernacle_n in_o israel_n be_v not_o the_o church_n and_o congregation_n of_o god_n people_n proper_o but_o a_o sacramental_a sign_n of_o god_n dwell_v with_o they_o which_o i_o before_o 79_o confirm_v by_o these_o scripture_n exod_a 25._o 8._o 2._o chron._n 6._o 2._o ezek._n 37._o 26._o 27._o rev._n 21._o 3._o second_o he_o himself_o affirm_v that_o 149._o the_o temple_n at_o jerusalem_n do_v primary_o figure_v out_o christ_n and_o secondary_o the_o church_n both_o the_o catholic_n or_o universal_a and_o particular_a church_n likeweise_v &_o particular_a christian_n and_o in_o several_a respect_n both_o their_o body_n and_o their_o soul_n and_o conscience_n upon_o which_o grant_n of_o he_o it_o follow_v that_o there_o be_v no_o necessary_a consequence_n of_o this_o his_o proposition_n if_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n with_o his_o hierarchy_n be_v the_o man_n of_o sin_v speak_v of_o in_o 2._o thes._n 2._o then_o be_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n the_o temple_n of_o god_n there_o speak_v of_o for_o he_o understanding_n by_o the_o church_n the_o people_n as_o in_o 1._o cor._n 3._o 16._o 17._o 2._o cor._n 6._o 16._o eph._n 2_o 21._o and_o yet_o grant_v that_o the_o temple_n in_o israel_n be_v not_o the_o people_n all_o may_v see_v the_o weakness_n and_o insufficiency_n of_o this_o inference_n that_o because_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n sit_v as_o god_n in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n therefore_o the_o people_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v that_o temple_n of_o god_n there_o speak_v of_o &_o consequent_o god_n true_a church_n for_o why_o now_o may_v 4._o we_o not_o as_o well_o if_o not_o much_o better_a say_v that_o by_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n be_v understand_v the_o doctrine_n and_o profession_n of_o christ_n the_o true_a temple_n or_o as_o in_o my_o former_a †_o book_n i_o show_v thus_o as_o the_o temple_n be_v a_o outward_a sign_n of_o god_n presence_n with_o his_o people_n and_o of_o his_o inward_a dwell_n in_o their_o heart_n *_o by_o say_v and_o by_o his_o spirit_n unto_o their_o salvation_n so_o antichrists_n temple_n be_v a_o outward_a show_n of_o his_o presence_n with_o that_o seduce_a people_n in_o who_o heart_n †_o he_o dwell_v by_o popish_a faith_n and_o by_o his_o spirit_n of_o error_n carry_v they_o to_o damnation_n but_o as_o antichrist_n shall_v not_o profess_o deny_v the_o true_a god_n or_o christ_n though_o in_o deed_n he_o false_o *_o show_v himself_o that_o he_o be_v god_n so_o shall_v h●_n not_o profess_o deny_v the_o temple_n or_o church_n of_o god_n but_o false_o vaunt_v his_o adulterous_a synagogue_n to_o be_v the_o same_o unto_o this_o exposition_n my_o opposite_a have_v give_v no_o answer_n and_o it_o be_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n &_o truth_n of_o the_o thing_n in_o controversy_n i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o prudent_a reader_n whether_o the_o outward_a show_n and_o profession_n of_o christ_n and_o christian_a religion_n be_v not_o the_o first_o thing_n here_o intend_v of_o th'apostle_n by_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o this_o be_v further_a confirm_v by_o rev._n 11._o 1._o where_o the_o temple_n altar_n and_o worshipper_n be_v three_o distinct_a thing_n and_o the_o people_n be_v the_o worshipper_n there_o speak_v of_o &_o neither_o the_o temple_n nor_o the_o altar_n of_o which_o place_n we_o shall_v treat_v anon_o then_o whereas_o he_o grant_v that_o the_o temple_n in_o jerusalem_n do_v primary_o figure_v out_o christ_n how_o be_v it_o that_o he_o whole_o neglect_v the_o primarie_a thing_n figure_v and_o insist_v upon_o the_o secondary_a the_o church_n or_o people_n of_o rome_n see_v it_o be_v know_v how_o the_o pope_n pretend_v himself_o to_o be_v christ_n vicar_n and_o deputy_n on_o earth_n and_o to_o be_v the_o servant_n and_o worshipper_n of_o christ_n in_o heaven_n and_o may_v we_o think_v that_o th'apostle_n in_o warn_v they_o of_o the_o 7._o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n will_v not_o imply_v the_o chief_a point_n of_o the_o mystery_n that_o antichrist_n shall_v in_o pretence_n sit_v for_o christ_n and_o in_o his_o stead_n as_o his_o vicar_n general_a on_o earth_n thus_o to_o sit_v in_o the_o temple_n or_o for_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n may_v well_o be_v understand_v that_o antichrist_n shall_v sit_v for_o christ_n a_o pretend_a friend_n but_o in_o deed_n a_o adverse_a foe_n now_o for_o that_o which_o the_o temple_n secondary_o figure_v namely_o the_o church_n catholic_a and_o also_o particular_a and_o so_o man_n conscience_n he_o waver_v in_o his_o application_n he_o say_v 15●_n this_o term_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v take_v either_o particular_o which_o he_o apply_v to_o the_o lateran_n church_n in_o rome_n the_o pope_n parish_n church_n or_o more_o general_o for_o all_o other_o such_o christian_a church_n as_o be_v come_v under_o the_o pope_n jurisdiction_n etc._n etc._n this_o late_a i_o hold_v to_o be_v most_o proper_a here_o for_o what_o need_v there_o such_o warn_n to_o the_o thessalonian_n &_o other_o christian_n church_n through_o the_o world_n if_o a_o bishop_n of_o the_o lateran_n parish_n a_o corner_n in_o rome_n have_v exalt_v himself_o above_o god_n therein_o only_o and_o have_v not_o usurp_v also_o a_o pretend_a christian_a power_n over_o all_o and_o the_o compliment_n of_o the_o pprophecy_n be_v a_o evident_a exposition_n of_o it_o for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o pope_n scorn_v to_o be_v bishop_n of_o the_o lateran_n parish_n only_o it_o be_v a_o jurisdiction_n over_o the_o catholic_a church_n throughout_o the_o earth_n which_o he_o challenge_v and_o now_o what_o proof_n bring_v my_o opposite_a that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o god_n constitute_v it_o be_v take_v general_o for_o other_o christian_a church_n under_o the_o pope_n jurisdiction_n none_o at_o all_o neither_o can_v he_o bring_v any_o jote_n of_o god_n word_n for_o the_o same_o again_o what_o proof_n make_v he_o that_o the_o catholic_a roman_a church_n wherein_o the_o pope_n sit_v be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n none_o but_o this_o 152._o i_o suppose_v these_o man_n themselves_o be_v better_a advise_v will_v not_o deny_v they_o to_o be_v the_o church_n and_o temple_n of_o god_n but_o he_o shall_v have_v show_v if_o it_o have_v be_v possible_a for_o he_o that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v by_o divine_a institution_n the_o catholic_a or_o universal_a church_n which_o because_o i_o assure_v myself_o it_o can_v never_o be_v do_z i_o conclude_v that_o this_o roman_a catholic_n church_n be_v a_o fiction_n of_o the_o pope_n brain_n and_o a_o mere_a idol_n like_o himself_o and_o be_v no_o otherweise_n the_o temple_n of_o god_n than_o the_o pope_n be_v christ_n universal_a vicar_n namely_o in_o lie_v word_n and_o vain_a ostentation_n and_o so_o the_o main_a ground_n for_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n wherein_o antichrist_n sit_v to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n be_v overthrow_v as_o for_o the_o pope_n lateran_n parish_n i_o both_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v christ_n true_a church_n and_o that_o it_o only_o be_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n wherein_o antichrist_n shall_v sit_v his_o proof_n of_o the_o former_a be_v this_o 150._o if_o we_o understand_v it_o of_o a_o particular_a church_n as_o the_o apostle_n write_v his_o epistle_n to_o the_o church_n of_o the_o roman_n how_o shall_v we_o sound_o deny_v it_o either_o to_o be_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n or_o antichrist_n to_o be_v set_v therein_o thus_o have_v we_o supposition_n and_o question_n in_o stead_n of_o proof_n to_o his_o demand_n i_o answer_v it_o be_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n in_o pretence_n not_o in_o truth_n even_o as_o the_o pope_n be_v a_o bishop_n of_o christ_n in_o pretence_n but_o in_o deed_n be_v antichrist_n the_o man_n of_o sin_v as_o my_o opposite_a grant_v the_o church_n that_o be_v in_o rome_n in_o paul_n time_n will_v no_o more_o justify_v the_o pope_n synagogue_n there_o now_o then_o the_o christian_a minister_n which_o be_v then_o in_o that_o church_n rom._n 12._o will_v justify_v the_o antichristian_a prelate_n that_n there_o reign_v at_o this_o day_n second_o the_o lateran_n parish_n at_o rome_n be_v of_o the_o
zion_n as_o whileere_n he_o say_v be_v in_o babylon_n and_o for_o his_o figurative_a apply_v of_o the_o temple_n here_o to_o the_o people_n or_o church_n it_o be_v amyss_n it_o shall_v be_v apply_v to_o god_n himself_o for_o so_o the_o lord_n say_v by_o the_o prophet_n though_o i_o have_v scatter_v they_o among_o the_o country_n yet_o will_v i_o be_v to_o they_o as_o a_o little_a sanctuary_n in_o the_o country_n where_o they_o shall_v come_v ezek._n 11._o 16._o so_o the_o lord_n not_o the_o people_n be_v the_o sanctuary_n or_o temple_n in_o babylon_n 3._o still_o they_o be_v acknowledge_v of_o god_n to_o be_v zion_n his_o people_n &c_n &c_n though_o in_o babylon_n answ._n so_o i_o always_o and_o still_o acknowledge_v god_n to_o have_v his_o people_n in_o babylon_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o it_o shall_v be_v prove_v if_o it_o be_v possible_a that_o babylon_n be_v zion_n or_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n 4._o the_o lord_n call_v they_o from_o thence_o by_o diverse_a prophet_n etc._n etc._n 5._o be_v so_o call_v they_o do_v not_o all_o come_v together_o at_o once_o etc._n etc._n answ._n these_o thing_n be_v true_a and_o so_o for_o the_o lord_n call_v of_o his_o people_n out_o of_o babylon_n now_o but_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o conclude_v not_o ever_o will_v be_v sound_o that_o the_o babylonian_n be_v god_n people_n except_o the_o elect_a which_o belong_v to_o mount_v zion_n though-actual_o in_o babylon_n obj._n there_o will_v be_v of_o god_n people_n yet_o call_v from_o thence_o even_o then_o when_o this_o babylon_n the_o city_n of_o rome_n shall_v be_v burn_v with_o fire_n and_o cast_v down_o never_o to_o rise_v any_o more_o rev._n 18._o 4._o 8._o etc._n etc._n answ._n this_o conclusion_n be_v partly_o true_a and_o partly_o imply_v error_n it_o be_v true_a that_o there_o shall_v be_v of_o god_n people_n call_v out_o of_o babylon_n till_o she_o be_v utter_o cast_v down_o but_o the_o error_n imply_v be_v that_o he_o make_v babylon_n the_o city_n not_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o seem_v also_o to_o restreyn_n it_o to_o the_o city_n proper_o and_o to_o the_o burn_a of_o the_o material_a city_n and_o house_n thereof_o whereas_o this_o babylon_n be_v the_o 5._o great_a whore_n who_o though_o her_o chief_n ●ear_n be_v in_o rome_n yet_o her_o ecclesta●●ical_a jurisdiction_n reach_v over_o 9_o people_n and_o kindred_n and_o tongue_n and_o nation_n and_o when_o the_o 13._o ten_o part_n of_o that_o city_n fall_v it_o be_v not_o mean_v of_o the_o ten_o part_n of_o the_o house_n in_o rome_n but_o of_o people_n in_o that_o catholic_a church_n and_o when_o god_n call_v his_o 18._o people_n out_o of_o babylon_n it_o be_v not_o mean_v out_o of_o rome_n only_o or_o italic_a but_o spain_n also_o and_o all_o other_o place_n where_o popery_n reign_v neither_o be_v it_o mean_v in_o regard_n of_o civil_a polity_n as_o if_o the_o subject_n in_o italy_n spain_n and_o other_o land_n may_v not_o remain_v in_o those_o common_a wealth_n still_o but_o they_o be_v call_v out_o from_o the_o heresy_n idolatry_n and_o extravagant_a jurisdiction_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n so_o the_o civil_a bondage_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o the_o old_a babylon_n type_v the_o spiritual_a bondage_n of_o god_n people_n in_o this_o new_a babylon_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o out_o of_o it_o be_v man_n call_v not_o out_o of_o the_o civil_a state_n or_o material_a place_n for_o who_o will_v deny_v but_o christian_a church_n may_v dwell_v in_o spain_n italy_n yea_o and_o rome_n itself_o if_o the_o magistrate_n will_v suffer_v they_o and_o yet_o not_o disobey_v this_o precept_n 18._o come_v out_o of_o she_o my_o people_n it_o be_v a_o doctrine_n of_o grace_n and_o necessary_a unto_o salvation_n to_o come_v out_o of_o the_o church_n estate_n of_o this_o romish_a babylon_n but_o to_o understand_v it_o of_o the_o common_a wealth_n estate_n and_o to_o call_v man_n out_o of_o it_o be_v a_o doctrine_n of_o rebellion_n contrary_a to_o rom._n 13._o 1._o 1._o pet._n 2._o 13._o 14._o whereas_o i_o conclude_v god_n covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v not_o therefore_o with_o she_o at_o all_o for_o she_o be_v appoint_v to_o damnation_n 2_o thes._n 2._o 8._o 12._o rev._n 18._o 8._o 21._o but_o the_o elect_v that_o obey_v god_n voice_n call_v they_o out_o of_o she_o they_o he_o will_v receive_v into_o covenant_n he_o will_v be_v a_o father_n unto_o they_o and_o they_o shall_v be_v his_o son_n &_o daughter_n as_o he_o have_v promise_v 2._o cor._n 6._o 17._o 18._o he_o reply_v as_o if_o they_o be_v not_o already_o under_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n be_v his_o people_n or_o as_o if_o they_o can_v be_v the_o lord_n people_n and_o yet_o not_o be_v under_o his_o covenant_n the_o jew_n know_v better_a when_o they_o be_v in_o babylon_n and_o thereupon_o pray_v as_o in_o esai_n 63._o 17._o 18._o 19_o &_o 64._o 7._o 8._o 9_o return_v to_o the_o tribe_n of_o thy_o inheritance_n &c_n &c_n we_o be_v thy_o &c._n &c._n o_o lord_n thou_o 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church_n of_o rome_n and_o that_o which_o he_o add_v of_o their_o baptise_v with_o water_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n &c_n &c_n be_v of_o no_o more_o weight_n to_o justify_v their_o baptism_n then_o the_o like_a element_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n institution_n this_o be_v my_o body_n &c_n &c_n be_v to_o justify_v the_o popish_a mass_n to_o be_v the_o true_a supper_n of_o our_o lord_n of_o which_o mass_n to_o omit_v that_o which_o many_o other_o have_v write_v of_o the_o abomination_n of_o it_o mr._n calvin_n 4._o say_v thus_o the_o mass_n ●n_v itself_o be_v a_o ronounce_v of_o the_o death_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o a_o sacrilege_n forge_v by_o satan_n utter_o to_o abolish_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o supper_n 7._o his_o seven_o reason_n that_o jew_n and_o pagan_n be_v turn_v to_o the_o popish_a christian_a ●aith_n be_v also_o refure_v in_o answer_n to_o his_o second_o reason_n bring_v for_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n the_o conclusion_n that_o there_o need_v no_o repeat_v of_o baptism_n as_o there_o be_v none_o of_o circumcision_n be_v grant_v and_o by_o i_o never_o deny_v 8._o likeweise_v his_o eight_o reason_n that_o god_n have_v his_o people_n in_o the_o romish_a babylon_n rev._n 18._o 4._o under_o his_o covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v before_o answer_v but_o he_o shall_v have_v prove_v if_o he_o can_v that_o babylon_n itself_o which_o be_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v under_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n that_o i_o deny_v the_o holy_a ghost_n show_v in_o rev._n 17._o &_o 18._o ch_z that_o she_o be_v under_o wrath_n and_o destruction_n he_o say_v the_o child_n of_o that_o church_n shall_v plead_v with_o their_o mother_n as_o the_o prophet_n teach_v and_o deal_v with_o jsrael_n of_o old_a hos_fw-la 2._o 2._o &_o 3._o 1._o &_o 4._o 1._o 2._o 12._o &c_n &c_n that_o she_o take_v away_o her_o fornication_n out_o of_o her_o sight_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v true_a so_o they_o shall_v but_o why_o do_v this_o man_n diminish_v from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o the_o prophet_n word_n be_v plead_v with_o your_o mother_n plead_v for_o she_o be_v not_o my_o wife_n neither_o be_o i_o her_o husband_n let_v she_o therefore_o ●ut_v away_o her_o whordome_n &c_n &c_n hos._n 2._o 2._o thus_o do_v i_o plead_v against_o this_o mother_n church_n of_o rome_n but_o my_o opposite_a blame_v i_o and_o plead_v for_o she_o she_o be_v the_o wife_n of_o christ_n and_o not_o divorce_v as_o before_o we_o have_v hear_v baptism_n say_v he_o be_v not_o of_o her_o adultery_n but_o of_o christ_n ordinance_n true_o so_o be_v the_o lord_n supper_n so_o be_v excommunication_n not_o of_o her_o adultery_n but_o of_o christ_n ordinance_n and_o we_o reteyn_v they_o from_o christ._n but_o that_o whorish_a church_n have_v corrupt_v and_o adulterate_v all_o these_o and_o other_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n &_o turn_v they_o to_o abominable_a idolatry_n and_o lie_v for_o which_o we_o also_o plead_v against_o she_o and_o her_o sinful_a abuse_n of_o these_o divine_a ordinance_n shall_v nor_o justify_v but_o the_o more_o condemn_v she_o 9_o to_o his_o nine_o and_o last_o reason_n if_o baptism_n be_v renounce_v then_o also_o the_o article_n of_o ●aith_n the_o scripture_n and_o translation_n likewise_o marriage_n dissolve_v etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v farr_n be_v it_o that_o we_o shall_v renounce_v any_o good_a thing_n which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n abuse_v any_o more_o than_o paul_n renounce_v the_o true_a god_n who_o the_o athenian_n ignorant_o worship_v ao●_n 17._o 23._o whatsoever_o be_v of_o divine_a institution_n among_o papist_n jew_o turk_n or_o heathen_n we_o renounce_v it_o not_o but_o their_o profanation_n and_o abuse_n of_o holy_a thing_n we_o do_v renounce_v neither_o can_v we_o justify_v their_o estate_n or_o any_o holy_a thing_n in_o their_o sinful_a abuse_n of_o it_o ●_o though_o we_o put_v difference_n between_o the_o thing_n which_o in_o their_o ow●●_n nature_n be_v good_a and_o the_o person_n which_o be_v evil_a thus_o man_n ma●_n see_v how_o weak_a and_o without_o edge_n his_o reason_n be_v to_o justify_v the_o bap_n tisme_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v in_o their_o use_n of_o it_o the_o true_a seal_n of_o god_n covenant_n of_o grace_n in_o christ_n unto_o they_o next_o this_o he_o set_v himself_o to_o answer_v objection_n 30._o the_o first_o whereof_o he_o make_v this_o but_o 71-75_a the_o baptism_n have_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n i●_n not_o true_a baptism_n but_o a_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n a_o detestable_a and_o curse_a sacrament_n a_o fiction_n and_o not_o true_a christian_a baptism_n cl._n no_o better_o then_o when_o we_o wash_v our_o own_o face_n with_o water_n daily_o etc._n etc._n answ._n that_o it_o
say_v the_o use_n of_o gold_n and_o silver_n for_o idol_n be_v forbid_v very_o well_o and_o be_v not_o the_o use_n of_o water_n bread_n and_o wine_n for_o idol_n forbid_v also_o the_o use_n of_o gold_n to_o make_v the_o image_n of_o cherubim_n be_v command_v exod._n 25._o 18._o but_o if_o the_o gentile_n have_v make_v themselves_o golden_a cherubim_n they_o have_v be_v idol_n and_o sin_v to_o they_o for_o god_n command_v they_o not_o so_o water_n bread_n and_o wine_n be_v command_v the_o christian_a church_n in_o her_o sacrament_n but_o to_o the_o antichristian_a church_n god_n command_v not_o these_o till_o they_o repent_v &_o turn_v to_o christ_n then_o and_o not_o before_o may_v they_o use_v they_o for_o holy_a sign_n psalm_n 50._o 16._o 17._o prov._n 21._o 27._o &_o 9_o 13._o 17._o 18._o in_o this_o his_o ten_o error_n or_o exception_n be_v also_o answer_v which_o be_v about_o the_o very_a same_o thing_n but_o that_o he_o delyte_v in_o multiplication_n 11_o touch_v the_o relation_n which_o be_v the_o main_a thing_n in_o a_o sacrament_n that_o it_o shall_v seal_v up_o unto_o they_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n and_o as_o they_o blasphemous_o say_v quite_o take_v away_o sin_n and_o confer_v grace_n so_o it_o be_v a_o vain_a idol_n and_o nothing_o but_o the_o sacrament_n in_o their_o relation_n be_v not_o only_a seal_n but_o sign_n also_o gen._n 17._o 11._o rom._n 4._o 11._o etc._n etc._n now_o by_o their_o assertion_n the_o baptism_n aforesaid_a show_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o the_o mind_n and_o so_o be_v a_o vain_a idol_n and_o nothing_o and_o that_o which_o it_o show_v to_o the_o eye_n be_v but_o as_o the_o gold_n and_o silver_n of_o the_o heathen_n idol_n which_o if_o it_o be_v true_a then_o in_o deed_n there_o shall_v be_v nothing_o of_o god_n ordinance_n nothing_o of_o a_o true_a sacrament_n etc._n etc._n and_o can_v they_o then_o blame_v the_o anabaptist_n etc._n etc._n answ._n that_o there_o be_v no_o true_a relation_n in_o the_o popish_a baptism_n be_v sufficient_o prove_v the_o person_n be_v antichristian_n out_o of_o the_o covenant_n and_o without_o promise_n in_o that_o estate_n that_o they_o have_v the_o true_a material_a thing_n of_o wash_v with_o water_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n &c_n &c_n i_o have_v always_o grant_v though_o these_o material_n be_v abuse_v by_o they_o to_o idolatry_n as_o the_o jew_n abuse_v their_o sheep_n and_o bullock_n to_o abominable_a sacrifice_n that_o of_o the_o gentile_n silver_n and_o gold_n be_v true_a also_o touch_v the_o matter_n which_o be_v god_n good_a creature_n further_o comparison_n i_o make_v not_o though_o he_o corrupt_v my_o word_n object_n whether_o think_v they_o that_o the_o baptism_n receive_v in_o the_o true_a church_n do_v seal_v up_o to_o hypocrite_n the_o forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n if_o they_o think_v not_o whether_o they_o will_v say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o those_o church_n have_v not_o the_o relation_n which_o be_v the_o main_a thing_n in_o a_o sacrament_n it_o be_v general_o hold_v that_o 13._o simon_n magus_n who_o be_v baptize_v by_o philip_n be_v a_o hypocrite_n and_o that_o his_o baptism_n do_v not_o seal_v up_o unto_o he_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o his_o sin_n will_v they_o therefore_o say_v that_o the_o baptism_n minister_v by_o the_o evangelist_n have_v not_o the_o relation_n &_o c_o beside_o that_o thus_o the_o relation_n of_o the_o sacrament_n shall_v depend_v whole_o upon_o man_n and_o not_o upon_o the_o lord_n or_o his_o ordinance_n at_o all_o answ._n to_o pass_v over_o his_o form_n of_o writing_n how_o he_o ask_v question_n when_o he_o shall_v prove_v or_o convince_v i_o answer_v his_o question_n be_v from_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n and_o so_o be_v deceitful_a we_o speak_v of_o the_o outward_a visible_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o ordinance_n belong_v thereto_o also_o of_o the_o visible_a antichristian_a church_n and_o ordinance_n there_o abuse_v he_o leave_v this_o and_o run_v to_o hypocrite_n which_o man_n can_v not_o discern_v and_o who_o therefore_o we_o must_v leave_v unto_o god_n among_o other_o secret_n deut._n 29._o 29._o to_o reason_n from_o the_o one_o of_o th●se_a to_o the_o other_o will_v bring_v all_o confusion_n for_o hypocrite_n be_v lawful_o admit_v into_o the_o church_n as_o be_v judas_n simon_n magus_n and_o many_o other_o if_o upon_o this_o ground_n open_a antichristian_o idolater_n unbeliever_n may_v be_v admit_v also_o then_o the_o church_n and_o the_o world_n shall_v be_v one_o confuse_a babel_n to_o his_o question_n i_o answer_v baptism_n in_o true_a church_n administer_v as_o the_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n do_v deal_v up_o to_o all_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o man_n and_o they_o shall_v great_o sin_v and_o profane_a god_n ordinance_n to_o baptise_v any_o other_o simon_n magus_n when_o he_o be_v baptize_v it_o be_v testify_v that_o he_o believe_v act._n 8._o 13._o so_o by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n he_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v mat._n 28._o 19_o neither_o know_v they_o he_o to_o be_v a_o hypocrite_n when_o he_o be_v baptize_v till_o afterward_o thus_o be_v we_o bind_v by_o the_o rule_n of_o love_n to_o believe_v that_o all_o right_o baptize_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n have_v the_o seal_n of_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n and_o be_v bury_v with_o christ_n by_o baptism_n and_o that_o by_o one_o spirit_n we_o be_v all_o baptise_a into_o one_o body_n rom._n 6._o 3._o 4._o 1_o cor._n 12._o 13._o and_o so_o my_o opposite_a believe_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v christ_n true_a church_n and_o to_o have_v his_o true_a baptism_n be_v bind_v also_o to_o believe_v they_o all_o to_o be_v of_o one_o body_n and_o one_o spirit_n with_o himself_o till_o they_o manifest_v to_o he_o the_o contrary_a which_o see_v they_o have_v not_o do_z by_o all_o their_o idolatry_n heresy_n &_o impiety_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v think_v that_o ever_o people_n which_o will_v call_v themselves_o christian_n can_v do_v it_o as_o for_o we_o we_o know_v the_o covenant_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o with_o antichrist_n or_o his_o whoreish_a church_n though_o therein_o god_n have_v many_o elect_a but_o we_o know_v that_o his_o covenant_n be_v with_o the_o true_a christian_a church_n and_o all_o the_o member_n of_o it_o although_o therein_o be_v many_o hypocrite_n and_o reprobate_n both_o which_o be_v manifest_v in_o time_n by_o their_o fruit_n we_o walk_v by_o the_o rule_v reveil_v to_o we_o of_o god_n secret_a thing_n be_v not_o for_o we_o to_o judge_v of_o until_o they_o be_v manifest_v where_o he_o conclude_v that_o thus_o the_o relation_n of_o the_o sacrament_n shall_v depend_v whole_o upon_o man_n and_o not_o upon_o the_o lord_n at_o all_o it_o be_v a_o calumniation_n without_o all_o colour_n of_o proof_n the_o relation_n be_v by_o mutual_a consent_n the_o lord_n offer_v his_o son_n christ_n for_o salvation_n to_o all_o repentant_a believe_a sinner_n we_o by_o grace_n have_v obtain_v faith_n do_v 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